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stokergoinup When: 14 Jul 17 17:27

Jul 14, 2017 -- 5:24PM, tomtimtum wrote:

Bruce French looks very different to what I remembered

Didn't he use to have a tache

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tomtimtum When: 14 Jul 17 17:28

Yep, used to be a Colin de Grandhomme lookalike

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stokergoinup When: 14 Jul 17 17:29

Do you collect autographs then juce

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Injera When: 14 Jul 17 17:30

Anyone seen Olivier bowl? Impressive stats.

Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ

First-class63 114 10788 5432 259 6/60 11/149 20.97 3.02

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stokergoinup When: 14 Jul 17 17:30

I've never heard of him

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tomtimtum When: 14 Jul 17 17:33

Dangerous partnership for England this one

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stokergoinup When: 14 Jul 17 17:34

new ball in 8 overs

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Injera When: 14 Jul 17 17:36

Impossible to know what is a competitive total.

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tomtimtum When: 14 Jul 17 17:48

They should really be going after moeen here, going to be much easier scoring runs off him than new ball vs Anderson/Broad

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wondersobright When: 14 Jul 17 17:54

320-340 is competitive imo

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wondersobright When: 14 Jul 17 17:55

300+ they are in the game for sure

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Injera When: 14 Jul 17 17:58

Dawson may as well be on teas.

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mafeking When: 14 Jul 17 18:01

would certainly prefer to have 350 on the board batting first certainly on this ground. hard to road to victory for england from here even against a weakened attack

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Cardinal Scott When: 14 Jul 17 18:16

Averaging has worked a treat today, Laying Eng after every wicket!

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wondersobright When: 14 Jul 17 18:17

SA would have taken 350 if you had offered them that at the start

runline nearer 375 from here

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Injera When: 14 Jul 17 18:19

I think 350 is a long way off.

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wondersobright When: 14 Jul 17 18:22

for SA to get or for eng?

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Injera When: 14 Jul 17 18:30

SA. No idea how England will go. No knowledge of the new lad on debut.

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Cardinal Scott When: 14 Jul 17 18:31

I did worry when I was laying Eng sub 1.7 at last wicket but these 2 have played a blinder!

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wondersobright When: 14 Jul 17 18:36

they should get 350 comfortably imo and SA will be fav soon

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Fatslogger When: 14 Jul 17 18:38

Jul 14, 2017 -- 6:31PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:

I did worry when I was laying Eng sub 1.7 at last wicket but these 2 have played a blinder!

Better than laying 2.56 and 4! Also did some compulsive draw backing on wickets so extremely pleased with this pair getting the draw down to several lays and England a good way out.

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Fatslogger When: 14 Jul 17 18:39

Jul 14, 2017 -- 6:36PM, wondersobright wrote:

they should get 350 comfortably imo and SA will be fav soon

Market will love England until wickets start to fall unless SA look likely to get well past 400, which also ought to break the market love a bit. I think England very short here, myself but can't really lay again.

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pixie When: 14 Jul 17 18:44

I agree with you Fatslogger, I think I will have to lay England again if Saffers get to 400 tho.

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Injera When: 14 Jul 17 18:45

Do you really think SA can win this????

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tomtimtum When: 14 Jul 17 18:46

Some rain forecast for tomorrow morning

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tomtimtum When: 14 Jul 17 18:47

Freddie will be on full overdrive mode if hes on comms for the blast tonight

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Fatslogger When: 14 Jul 17 18:51

Jul 14, 2017 -- 6:44PM, pixie wrote:

I agree with you Fatslogger, I think I will have to lay England again if Saffers get to 400 tho.

There's a hell of a lot that can go wrong for England from here for them to be under 3. It's not impossible for them to give away well over 400 and be really staring down the barrel but I think they'd be short at this price if they did rather well I need the morning and got SA for 340. I just don't think this England side is superior enough to have much of an implied second innings advantage, especially batting last.

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Fatslogger When: 14 Jul 17 18:57

Jul 14, 2017 -- 6:45PM, Injera wrote:

Do you really think SA can win this????

Why on earth would you think they can't?

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mafeking When: 14 Jul 17 18:59

england could make 400+ here and still be in big trouble. chances are it will be much easier batting 3rd than 4th

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Injera When: 14 Jul 17 21:11

FS - SA have basically gone nowhere today. They did well to get through the first session with little damage but 309-6 is England's day.

Apart from playing with ten men I fancy England to dominate as the test goes on.

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Fatslogger When: 14 Jul 17 21:55

Jul 14, 2017 -- 9:11PM, Injera wrote:

FS - SA have basically gone nowhere today. They did well to get through the first session with little damage but 309-6 is England's day.Apart from playing with ten men I fancy England to dominate as the test goes on.

Okay. I totally disagree. Over 300 runs is clearly not going nowhere. You make par over 400?

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mafeking When: 14 Jul 17 22:16

you ain't gonna lose many test matches in england if you bat 4 sessions in the first innings of the match. if they bat for a day 2nd inns england probably have to find 700 runs batting 2nd and 4th. that's a big ask at trentbridge where the ball moves around

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Fatslogger When: 14 Jul 17 22:27

Jul 14, 2017 -- 10:16PM, mafeking wrote:

you ain't gonna lose many test matches in england if you bat 4 sessions in the first innings of the match. if they bat for a day 2nd inns england probably have to find 700 runs batting 2nd and 4th. that's a big ask at trentbridge where the ball moves around

I buy this. Of course there's a lot of cricket left to play; England bats deep and the SA attack isn't what it might be but I think SA's position is fairly strong.

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timbo-returns When: 14 Jul 17 22:43

Can someone let me know please is there a certain number of overs which need to be bowled on the session runs market on the exchange please?

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pxb When: 15 Jul 17 01:06

Can someone let me know please is there a certain number of overs which need to be bowled on the session runs market on the exchange please?

Sessions 1 and 2 = No

Session 3 = Day's total needs to be 90, but rules are a bit complicated

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jucel69 When: 15 Jul 17 01:06

England look very short to me. Saffers in the box seat & with an overcast day in store, they should find plenty in the air and off the deck.

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pxb When: 15 Jul 17 03:17

Looks like we will get the full quota of overs for the match, and Eng would have to bat well into day 3 (tea?) to make this look like a draw.

I'll look to lay the draw when the showers come this morning.

Not in a particularly good position, but for fairly small amounts.

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timbo-returns When: 15 Jul 17 06:18

Thanks pxb, I've tried looking for the rules as I know the exchange has different rules to the sports book side, where there must be 20 overs bowled in a session else bets are void

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pxb When: 15 Jul 17 08:42

Ah! Didn't read your Q properly. I was referring to cricket rules. I have no idea about bf rules.

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timbo-returns When: 15 Jul 17 08:52

Anybody else help with the question on sessions runs market on the exchange? Is there a minimum number of overs that need to be bowled in the session? I know they settle innings runs markets if rain intervenes at any point and bets stand, I just wondered if that was the same for session runs.