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By:
jucel69
When: 12 Nov 16 23:43
Grant, lurking in the background!!
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 12 Nov 16 23:44

Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:43PM, jucel69 wrote:


Grant, lurking in the background!!


LoveCool

By:
jucel69
When: 12 Nov 16 23:44
wise will be here soonLaugh
By:
Fatslogger
When: 12 Nov 16 23:45

Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:43PM, jucel69 wrote:


He got lucky with the India game!!


Has he closed out? I've not totally given up hope of a result. Watching highlights, the number of wickets that have fallen so far don't reflect how much the track is doing. I still think there's a plausible chance of India collapsing set the mythical 300 in 60 overs. I'm even tempted to bail on more of my residual draw green to take advantage of England plays a positive game and then gets an early wicket or two. I could take on an awful lot more green pretty cheaply.

By:
jucel69
When: 12 Nov 16 23:47

Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:45PM, Fatslogger wrote:


Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:43PM, jucel69 wrote:He got lucky with the India game!!Has he closed out? I've not totally given up hope of a result. Watching highlights, the number of wickets that have fallen so far don't reflect how much the track is doing. I still think there's a plausible chance of India collapsing set the mythical 300 in 60 overs. I'm even tempted to bail on more of my residual draw green to take advantage of England plays a positive game and then gets an early wicket or two. I could take on an awful lot more green pretty cheaply.


strange old game. Been good bounce, reverse and some spin, yet 20 wickets in 4 days!
The vagaries of test cricket!!

By:
jucel69
When: 12 Nov 16 23:48
I will be doubling my stake on India in the next game, expect a beach!
By:
tomtimtum
When: 12 Nov 16 23:49
Don't you think that a complete bunsen would bring luck into the equation more and give England a better chance of winning?
By:
jucel69
When: 12 Nov 16 23:51

Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:49PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Don't you think that a complete bunsen would bring luck into the equation more and give England a better chance of winning?


No, as our bowlers haven't got as much control and hence bowl more 4 balls. Similar to SA series

By:
tomtimtum
When: 12 Nov 16 23:52
They bowled well in this test, really kept a handle on the RR
By:
jucel69
When: 12 Nov 16 23:52
I know what you mean though Tom, it does make things more of a lottery.
Probably a massive draw lay would be more prudent!
By:
Charkitz
When: 12 Nov 16 23:53
Well Bellreve drains a lot better than other grounds. Also it's been very dry in Hobart so the ground is thirsty and should gulp up all the water. But I wonder if people still have those tests in WI and SA earlier this year in mind and think a similar thing could happen.

Think the plan is to lay the draw when the days play is officially called off, surely it won't go any lower after that. Maybe the market will be surprised when they are starting on time tomorrow. I'm not giving the market any credit anymore so I'm going to assume the market thinks a repeat of the WI and SA fiascos is a possibility
By:
jucel69
When: 12 Nov 16 23:53

Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:52PM, tomtimtum wrote:


They bowled well in this test, really kept a handle on the RR


probably because India were tentative being so far behind. I think batting first they may of played more positively

By:
DAN1974
When: 12 Nov 16 23:53
3.45 !
By:
tomtimtum
When: 12 Nov 16 23:54
I thought Indias best chance of winning was to prepare a pitch just like the one they did for the first test but win the toss instead!
By:
jucel69
When: 12 Nov 16 23:54

Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:53PM, Charkitz wrote:


Well Bellreve drains a lot better than other grounds. Also it's been very dry in Hobart so the ground is thirsty and should gulp up all the water. But I wonder if people still have those tests in WI and SA earlier this year in mind and think a similar thing could happen. Think the plan is to lay the draw when the days play is officially called off, surely it won't go any lower after that. Maybe the market will be surprised when they are starting on time tomorrow. I'm not giving the market any credit anymore so I'm going to assume the market thinks a repeat of the WI and SA fiascos is a possibility


This rain might last for another 20 hours, seems to be filling in behind too

By:
Fatslogger
When: 12 Nov 16 23:55
Need this to 3.4 to get to a decent position, to 3s for clover and below for pants jizzing time. It's slow but it's going and I think will continue. Apart from anything else, the momentum almost has to carry it down here as it's not going to stop raining today, or at least if it does, not for long enough for play.

It's taken in my 3.7 anyway. Am I going to end up regretting not setting the whole lot around 3.2 and lower? Not quite brave enough, having already been reasonably bold on taking Aus red. Which reminds me, why on earth is Aus shortening without play? They'd want to play today as bowling conditions (well, whaling on the outfield conditions but you know what I mean) and play would take the draw out. If there's no play until conditions improve that really ought to hurt Aus with 5 SA wickets still to take. Ideal for them was a session or just under of play today under cloud and take those 5 wickets.
By:
pxb
When: 12 Nov 16 23:55
20 minutes after the scheduled start and the draw has already hit 3.5.

No need to thank me chaps. But I'm pretty good on the psychology of markets.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 12 Nov 16 23:56
Amazed by this tbh
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 12 Nov 16 23:56

Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:55PM, pxb wrote:


20 minutes after the scheduled start and the draw has already hit 3.5.No need to thank me chaps. But I'm pretty good on the psychology of markets.


good to see ur recovering after doing ur bollocks in bangla

By:
DAN1974
When: 12 Nov 16 23:56
thanks PXB Grin
By:
jucel69
When: 12 Nov 16 23:56

Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:56PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Amazed by this tbh


I'm starting to think this band of rain will still be there tomorrow morning!

By:
tomtimtum
When: 12 Nov 16 23:57
I thought there would be an imbalance between backers and layers, I mean who wants to lay draw with all the rain around and chance of more but didnt think it would move anything like this
By:
jucel69
When: 12 Nov 16 23:58

Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:57PM, tomtimtum wrote:


I thought there would be an imbalance between backers and layers, I mean who wants to lay draw with all the rain around and chance of more but didnt think it would move anything like this


Always more backers and profit takers in situations like this

By:
Charkitz
When: 12 Nov 16 23:59
Lol Jucel it will stop raining tonight as predicted, they will start on time tomorrow and those that back the draw down to $3 or whatever will be feeling rather foolish tomorrow when the draw price has another panic attack and goes the other way
By:
pxb
When: 12 Nov 16 23:59
I made good money in Bangla. Did my nuts in Lanka though.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 13 Nov 16 00:02

Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:55PM, pxb wrote:


20 minutes after the scheduled start and the draw has already hit 3.5.No need to thank me chaps. But I'm pretty good on the psychology of markets.


You're not often wrong and I pay close attention to what you say but I was all over this one like a rash already. 

Did find your above comment about bank management interesting. I never pile much more than about 10% of bank on to a test, perhaps a little over if can't refuse prices or am on tilt (the third England Sri Lanka test being an example where I was so far on tilt you could have used me as a windmill) but you're right, risk here would have been small. Having said that, and not to big myself up too outrageously, I have a big enough bank that getting it all on and off a low liquidity test, especially one played when I should be sleeping, would not be straightforward. I think that's because I leave my cash with Betfair unless I have to take some out for a skiing holiday or to stave off bankruptcy whereas you play with less of your winnings, I think.

By:
pxb
When: 13 Nov 16 00:03
I expect the run down to 3 after lunch, when people recognise no prospect of play today.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 13 Nov 16 00:06

Nov 13, 2016 -- 12:02AM, Fatslogger wrote:


Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:55PM, pxb wrote:20 minutes after the scheduled start and the draw has already hit 3.5.No need to thank me chaps. But I'm pretty good on the psychology of markets.You're not often wrong and I pay close attention to what you say but I was all over this one like a rash already.  Did find your above comment about bank management interesting. I never pile much more than about 10% of bank on to a test, perhaps a little over if can't refuse prices or am on tilt (the third England Sri Lanka test being an example where I was so far on tilt you could have used me as a windmill) but you're right, risk here would have been small. Having said that, and not to big myself up too outrageously, I have a big enough bank that getting it all on and off a low liquidity test, especially one played when I should be sleeping, would not be straightforward. I think that's because I leave my cash with Betfair unless I have to take some out for a skiing holiday or to stave off bankruptcy whereas you play with less of your winnings, I think.


Better to keep your bank on here away from the wife.
Nice bit of escape money Cool

By:
pxb
When: 13 Nov 16 00:07
whereas you play with less of your winnings, I think

True, and I don't really trust bf so never let the money with bf get to big.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 13 Nov 16 00:07
Just make sure you use two step authentication!
By:
Fatslogger
When: 13 Nov 16 00:08

Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:59PM, pxb wrote:


I made good money in Bangla. Did my nuts in Lanka though.


The opposite, although SL not winning more than one of the versus Aus ODIs from a bunch of promising positions meant I didn't win as much as I might have done. Bangla I just kept getting caught on the draw knowing it wouldn't be one but reflexively backing it every time there was a wicket early on. Stupid technical flaw on my part. I felt like Gary Ballance must.

By:
jucel69
When: 13 Nov 16 00:10
Get back to watching my trio of 2008 wall street collapse films.
Margin Call - fantastic
99 homes - brilliant
The Big Short - in progress
By:
tomtimtum
When: 13 Nov 16 00:10
Read The Big Short, didn't like it much
By:
Fatslogger
When: 13 Nov 16 00:10

Nov 13, 2016 -- 12:03AM, pxb wrote:


I expect the run down to 3 after lunch, when people recognise no prospect of play today.


Agree. I got back on draw at 3.6 with the blip up having just about got to flat on SA. Think I'll have another £500 now I think of it. In some ways it shouldn't but I think it almost has to go down further from here.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 13 Nov 16 00:14

Nov 13, 2016 -- 12:06AM, tomtimtum wrote:


Nov 13, 2016 -- 12:02AM, Fatslogger wrote:Nov 12, 2016 -- 11:55PM, pxb wrote:20 minutes after the scheduled start and the draw has already hit 3.5.No need to thank me chaps. But I'm pretty good on the psychology of markets.You're not often wrong and I pay close attention to what you say but I was all over this one like a rash already.  Did find your above comment about bank management interesting. I never pile much more than about 10% of bank on to a test, perhaps a little over if can't refuse prices or am on tilt (the third England Sri Lanka test being an example where I was so far on tilt you could have used me as a windmill) but you're right, risk here would have been small. Having said that, and not to big myself up too outrageously, I have a big enough bank that getting it all on and off a low liquidity test, especially one played when I should be sleeping, would not be straightforward. I think that's because I leave my cash with Betfair unless I have to take some out for a skiing holiday or to stave off bankruptcy whereas you play with less of your winnings, I think.Better to keep your bank on here away from the wife.Nice bit of escape money


She knows about it. She wanted me to spend it all on jewellery when my bank was under a grand. I point that out to her when she complains that I'm too tight with it. I've just lifted £10k to cover a couple or arguably three holidays this week. Worrying thing is we're both well paid and my dad subs us a bit when he comes away with us too. She's an amazing woman but just absurdly good at spending money. God alone knows what people do who don't win money gambling.

By:
pxb
When: 13 Nov 16 00:15
jucel, I'll make a mental note of those movies. Now I have a smart TV can sign up to Netflix.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 13 Nov 16 00:18
Loved The Big Short. I've not seen the others. It's a curiously human film for one covering a whole load of not immediately terribly admirable people.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 13 Nov 16 00:22
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Oh my god. They've genuinely banned umbrellas from the Aus/SA Test. Banning umbrellas from cricket because they are deemed dangerous.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 13 Nov 16 00:24
There's literally nobody there anyway.

Can anyone see Hobart on the satellite under all the rain?
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Nov 16 00:24
Monday 14 November
Summary Min 10 Max 16 Shower or two.Possible rainfall: 1 to 2 mm Chance of any rain: 70% 
Hobart area
Cloudy. High (70%) chance of showers, most likely in the morning and early afternoon. Winds southwest to southeasterly 15 to 25 km/h turning westerly 15 to 20 km/h in the evening.
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