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07 Nov 16 23:09
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Heavy rain forecast day 1, with more rain day 2 and possibly day 3.

Otherwise, Hobart a result venue that should suit SAF as much as Aus. Assuming Rabada isn't rested, Aus look a huge lay.

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By:
ada
When: 08 Nov 16 01:22
Just laid the Draw heavy ish at 2
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 08 Nov 16 05:45
I saw the draw around2's pxb and thought what the hell is going on particularly after you said it was a result wicket!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 08 Nov 16 06:00
whats the deal on eain in Hobart pxb? does it come and go? does the pitch drain well?
By:
pxb
When: 08 Nov 16 06:25
Hobart surrounded by mountains is a suprisingly dry place. It gets less rain than Perth. But the Bom is forecasting over a months rainfall in the first 3 days of the Test.

I've got my initial draw backs in and will look to go bigger on Friday if the weather forecast holds. Hobart weather generally drizzly showers, but this is different per the forecast.
By:
jucel69
When: 08 Nov 16 06:30
Yeh weather forecast looks terrible, 30s & 40 mms of rain on some of the days.
Also, the pitches have been pretty flat in recent times
By:
tomtimtum
When: 08 Nov 16 07:32
Aussie press Laugh
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMim_u9hZDu/
By:
detraveller
When: 08 Nov 16 10:06
Can't decide whether to get involved or not. Weather looks terrible and draw already shortened to 1.8 after starting at 2.26 yesterday. The weather for the last 2 days seems fine.

Aus lay looks the safest bet to me as SA unlikely to get blown away in a 3-day game at most. They have the batsmen to play for a draw when under the pump, especially in a rain effected game. No way Aus win this.
By:
pxb
When: 08 Nov 16 12:31
I've greened up and will wait to see how the forecast develops.
By:
detraveller
When: 09 Nov 16 22:04
How short is the draw likely to go from here? If we are lucky and drainage good(?) we may get a start on time and a session in at most. Second day weather is terrible. Third day has improved a bit. 4th and 5th day weather has been clear since i started looking ath hobart weather.

Is it a lump on price? Or am i right in saying it should go out once we get some play, and then shorten maybe if the team gets off to a good start?
By:
pxb
When: 09 Nov 16 22:18
I'm going to wait until Friday before making any more moves. Although wait too long and people see a big mass of rain on the radar and the draw will crash.
By:
jucel69
When: 09 Nov 16 22:51

Nov 9, 2016 -- 10:18PM, pxb wrote:


I'm going to wait until Friday before making any more moves. Although wait too long and people see a big mass of rain on the radar and the draw will crash.


As Del Boy always says "He who dares wins"

By:
pxb
When: 09 Nov 16 23:38
I'm a bit hung up on rain in Hobart is usually showers, and showers don't usually stop play for long in Aus. We may get an on again, off again couple of days, which could well bring wickets.

So I am waiting to see if there is a solid mass of rain.
By:
jucel69
When: 09 Nov 16 23:58

Nov 9, 2016 -- 11:38PM, pxb wrote:


I'm a bit hung up on rain in Hobart is usually showers, and showers don't usually stop play for long in Aus. We may get an on again, off again couple of days, which could well bring wickets.So I am waiting to see if there is a solid mass of rain.


I live between mountains and sea and we have hardly any rain. The weather rarely comes from the sea, it comes over the mountains and tends to dump it there. The amount of times it looks like armageddon and then no rain is amazing!
Is that a similar thing in Hobart?

By:
peckerdunne
When: 10 Nov 16 00:03
it rained very heavy here today for 30 seconds as I walked the dog,   hten sunshine all afyernoon, mountains.......weird huh
By:
peckerdunne
When: 10 Nov 16 00:03
the foggy due
By:
pxb
When: 10 Nov 16 00:44
It rains on about half the days of the year in Hobart, but the average amount is small, about 3mm. So the forecast weather is unusual.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 10 Nov 16 12:17
The draw has come a little way back out today, was actually over 1.8 now corrected back down a touch. I'm tempted to smash it. Even if we get a little over 3 1/2 days play, which seems a high prediction from here, a result isn't that likely and there ought to be very good chances to trade out. The things stopping me are caution on any forecasting of stormy weather, which can be tough to get right and pxb's point about on and off overcast days being good for bowling. Even then, if the ball gets wet it can be hard to get it to do much.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 10 Nov 16 12:25
Doesn't look that biblical on Accuweather, showers up to Saturday afternoon but could be very little time lost, then some heavy rain Saturday afternoon but not terrible Sunday, showers again possible Monday and Tuesday fine. Could see the draw very short indeed if the side batting first start well and / or reasonably amounts of time lost to showers before the downpour but you'd not want to be on the draw at under 2s if there aren't many showers and the side up first gets rolled like SA did first test, especially if the Saturday forecast picks up. Not sure.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 10 Nov 16 12:28
BBC has likely showers Friday, possible Saturday and Monday, a load of rain Sunday and Tuesday fine.
By:
DAN1974
When: 10 Nov 16 19:07

Nov 10, 2016 -- 12:28PM, Fatslogger wrote:


BBC has likely showers Friday, possible Saturday and Monday, a load of rain Sunday and Tuesday fine.


you do realise the test is Saturday to Wednesday FS ?

By:
Fatslogger
When: 10 Nov 16 19:12

Nov 10, 2016 -- 7:07PM, DAN1974 wrote:


Nov 10, 2016 -- 12:28PM, Fatslogger wrote:BBC has likely showers Friday, possible Saturday and Monday, a load of rain Sunday and Tuesday fine.you do realise the test is Saturday to Wednesday FS ?


I do now. Got confused by the time zone issue - Betfair has start day tomorrow but of course that's Saturday in Hobart.

By:
DAN1974
When: 10 Nov 16 19:14
i know i got confused as well, thats why i asked Crazy
By:
Fatslogger
When: 10 Nov 16 19:17

Nov 10, 2016 -- 7:14PM, DAN1974 wrote:


i know i got confused as well, thats why i asked


That makes me feel a bit better about it.

By:
pxb
When: 10 Nov 16 22:09
We could get most of the first session Sat in with the rest washed out or the whole day could be a washout. I'd say a toss up at the moment. Looks like some play Sunday, although probably not much.

I'll aim to be all green by the start of Sunday.
By:
pxb
When: 10 Nov 16 22:31
Australia simply too short for a team that lost to a 10 man SAF, and now have 3 of their first choices out injured.
By:
pxb
When: 11 Nov 16 06:40
http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/australia-v-south-africa-reverse-swing-wont-be-a-factor-like-it-was-in-perth/news-story/0f2057613072989ecea71ad4db45dfc2

Pitch very green, but not the green mamba I originally thought.

Will help SAF a bit more I think as Starc is a swing it through the air bowler.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 11 Nov 16 18:31
Definitely a game for the fit meteorologist I can't look for because I'm married. The four weather sites I've got going agree about a very rainy, probably not even a whisper of play Sunday but are offering very different opinions about today (Saturday) and fairly different about Monday too. I've got a decent sized draw back in at 1.8 though, thinking that the market won't have entirely priced in a full lost day. Could still get badly burned if SA out cheaply between showers today as also have an Aus lay but one has to speculate to accumulate.
By:
pxb
When: 11 Nov 16 21:36
FS, BoM aren't very often wrong in forecasts for the next 24 hours.
By:
Charkitz
When: 11 Nov 16 21:42
This is a retarded market. It's as if it's only just realisng now that there will be play this morning. Even though the forecast was always for rain arriving late Saturday arvo.
By:
jucel69
When: 11 Nov 16 21:50
The rain to the north is hours away
By:
Charkitz
When: 11 Nov 16 22:01
It's always difficult to work out what the market is factoring in in situations like this. Can be very frustrating. I'm going to wait for the toss before making any more moves
By:
Fatslogger
When: 11 Nov 16 22:13

Nov 11, 2016 -- 9:36PM, pxb wrote:


FS, BoM aren't very often wrong in forecasts for the next 24 hours.


I've got BoM as my top forecaster at this point. Useful to know that it's not just pretending to be authoritative though, so thanks.

I'm a deep carmine shade of red on Australia here. If they bowl first up and destroy SA I'm taking a hiding but sometimes you have to take that risk.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 11 Nov 16 22:17

Nov 11, 2016 -- 10:01PM, Charkitz wrote:


It's always difficult to work out what the market is factoring in in situations like this. Can be very frustrating. I'm going to wait for the toss before making any more moves


It is tough. Sometimes some really predictable things happen and the market changes dramatically and you think, why on earth wasn't that obvious to everyone and other times things happen that aren't that obvious or at least ought to move things and the market stays unperturbed. If the market were always right though, it would be a lot harder to make money out of it.

By:
detraveller
When: 11 Nov 16 22:18
I wont feel that bad if SA are the team in trouble. They never go down easy and in a rain affected game, with 1-0 up, they'll look for safety once in early trouble. And you can back them to bat out 100+ ovvers second dig. But if SA get on top early, i'll be worried as ive backed the draw.
By:
detraveller
When: 11 Nov 16 22:19
No webcam for this ground?
By:
pxb
When: 11 Nov 16 22:23
I noticed some were referring to Accuweather and BBC weather. BoM uses higher resolution models over Aus. It's debatable if they are more accurate, but they are more precise. The 24 hour accuracy mainly results from other factors.

Also note the Hobart radar isn't very good to the north because of the mountains.
By:
anxious
When: 11 Nov 16 22:26
So will there be any play today ?
By:
jucel69
When: 11 Nov 16 22:27

Nov 11, 2016 -- 10:26PM, anxious wrote:


So will there be any play today ?


can't see any obvious bands on the horizon, showers can pop up from anywhere, I hasten to add

By:
anxious
When: 11 Nov 16 22:29
K cheers for that
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