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By:
jucel69
When: 12 Feb 16 23:39

Feb 8, 2016 -- 11:26PM, jucel69 wrote:


It will be as green as a toad's belly on the first day & then flatten out into a belter, as usual in NZ. The pitches never deteriorate because of the grass covering. As pxb says the draw lay to back is an option to really make a fortune. I might just back the draw at late 4s and pray not too much damage happens on day 1. If it does, grab my cojones & back again in double figures


grandes cojones

By:
the whizz kids
When: 12 Feb 16 23:49

Feb 12, 2016 -- 11:30PM, jucel69 wrote:


14.5/15. Took plenty


started my offer at 16s and never got matched so dropped it down to 15s about 5hrs before start of play and then went to bed. Woke up an not matched.Angry.

By:
Foinavon
When: 12 Feb 16 23:50
Enjoy the rest of the day guys, I'm off to bed. Market not doing anything so taking the chance of leaving the red open on NZ. Hopefully Aus will not be bowled out cheaply after lunch but crazy things can happen.
By:
jucel69
When: 12 Feb 16 23:51

Feb 12, 2016 -- 11:49PM, the whizz kids wrote:


Feb 12, 2016 -- 11:30PM, jucel69 wrote:14.5/15. Took plentystarted my offer at 16s and never got matched so dropped it down to 15s about 5hrs before start of play and then went to bed. Woke up an not matched..


Just checking mine was matched at 15.46 uk time

By:
tomtimtum
When: 13 Feb 16 00:02

Feb 12, 2016 -- 11:18PM, jucel69 wrote:


Feb 12, 2016 -- 10:45PM, tomtimtum wrote:Amazes me how Umps can call no balls anyhowWonder if Bob enjoyed his bottle of Highland Commander??!!Is that a real whisky, tickled me as it sound like a shocking libation!


Highland Commander was one of those Whiskeys could get from Costcutter for £6 a bottle Laugh

By:
tomtimtum
When: 13 Feb 16 00:04
and yeah, real throat burner Crazy
By:
the whizz kids
When: 13 Feb 16 00:07

Feb 12, 2016 -- 11:51PM, jucel69 wrote:


Feb 12, 2016 -- 11:49PM, the whizz kids wrote:Feb 12, 2016 -- 11:30PM, jucel69 wrote:14.5/15. Took plentystarted my offer at 16s and never got matched so dropped it down to 15s about 5hrs before start of play and then went to bed. Woke up an not matched..Just checking mine was matched at 15.46 uk time


You must have been in front of me in the Q. Fair play to you. I should have taken the 14.5 as over 600 was available.

By:
pxb
When: 13 Feb 16 01:10
I backed the draw at 15.5. Laid it at 13, then tried to back again at 15.5 then down to 14. But no joy.

Normally, with no weather, draw will drift before play, but not in this case.
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Feb 16 01:14
This process does my head in
By:
tomtimtum
When: 13 Feb 16 01:14
wow what a catch
By:
tomtimtum
When: 13 Feb 16 01:16
Knew I should have backed NZ when they took the new ball
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Feb 16 01:17
Mitchell Marsh needs oiling . Stiffer than Watto
By:
tomtimtum
When: 13 Feb 16 01:21
Got a lay in of Aus, come on collapso
By:
tomtimtum
When: 13 Feb 16 01:23
lost 2 wickets and price moved about 1 tick, cant be right
By:
detraveller
When: 13 Feb 16 01:23
I laid NZ and backed again at new ball. Now laid them again and hoping for a partnership.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 13 Feb 16 01:25
Nevill not convincing
By:
Fatslogger
When: 13 Feb 16 08:00
Wish I'd had jucel's cojones. Having had to sleep though most of the second day's play all I managed was a couple of draw backs at 10.5 and 11 when it was drifting for no terribly good reason then lay offs at 9, to improve my shagged position a bit. Need a lot more draw shortening to get out without too much pain. Don't see why it should come in much more until NZ bats and then obviously only if batting without throwing wickets away this time.
By:
pxb
When: 13 Feb 16 09:15
3 days left, and can NZ bat for 2 days to save or even win the Test. I'd give them somewhere over a 1 in 7 chance. Far from impossible.

I'm in good shape. Just need to keep my NZ and draw reds reasonable.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 13 Feb 16 09:24
Need to work out what NZ need to do to save the match.

They will probably start their innings after lunch maybe 400 odd behind. Even if they score 600 in 5.5 sessions that would leave Aus 200 to get in 2 sessions.

I'd say the result is almost forgone but every big NZ partnership offers a betting opportunity and should NZ be able to set Aus a total there may not be a flip but there will be a narrowing and again that is an opportunity.
By:
Foinavon
When: 13 Feb 16 12:23
Looks almost played out from a betting perspective. With NZ win virtually out the running, the Aus/draw balance seems about right. Some mileage for big investors I daresay but for me I've checked out.
By:
the whizz kids
When: 13 Feb 16 15:17
I've had another bash at he draw at 6.6. The draw wont move out too much even if Aus lose wickets early and I don't think any of us can see that especially as Voges has not got out in a test Now for over 500 runs???? Once N.Z are back in we should see an overreaction (a bit of dead batting might help). Draw wont happen but it should drop to around 3s at some point today. off to sleep
By:
the whizz kids
When: 13 Feb 16 16:45
can't understand the love for N.Z.Surprised
By:
nigelpm1
When: 13 Feb 16 18:04
draw silly short here for me.  NZ little chance of saving.
By:
DAN1974
When: 13 Feb 16 18:25
I dont think it will be a draw but that doesnt mean the draw price wont shorten, the pitch looks as flat as a pancake any sort of decent partnership from NZ in their second innings will bring the price in.

I've greened up but i might get involved again if that happens.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 13 Feb 16 18:43
of course but it's about what it is fair value of the draw right now - certainly not 1/7 chance!
By:
DAN1974
When: 13 Feb 16 18:51
i agree, but if you wait you should be able to lay it at a lower price imo.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 13 Feb 16 19:09
should is the problem ;-)  To be fair I have placed a bunch of lay orders right down to 3.1 as well.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 13 Feb 16 20:00
The draw has drifted up nicely so I'm trying to get back on it at 7.6 the lay off again at 6.4 or so. This does deepen my already large red on non draws but it seems unlikely this will hurt unless Australia throws the bat effectively enough to put time back in the game (and market often reads that as evidence of a super flat deck) and then NZ also manages to lose more than one early wicket. Even a couple of overs at the start of NZ's second innings with it looking flat and the ball not swinging will pull the draw down a fair bit. Course I need a lot more than that to hit my large series of draw lays heading all the way down to 3.75 and actually reach an overall position I'm happy with.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 13 Feb 16 20:03
Oh and this is a legendarily flat track and the Aussie bowlers may well lack the tools of express pace or real turn to chisel out a batting line up on such a deck. I agree NZ has to bat for absolute ever (perhaps not quite so long if McCullum goes crazy) to save the test but this is getting kind of surface it could be done on.
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Feb 16 22:31
NZ have come in to 24s & the draw to 9s? Strange stuff
By:
the whizz kids
When: 13 Feb 16 22:34

Feb 13, 2016 -- 10:31PM, jucel69 wrote:


NZ have come in to 24s & the draw to 9s? Strange stuff


can't get my head around it???

By:
DAN1974
When: 13 Feb 16 22:34
strange indeed, cant work that out ?????????????
By:
pxb
When: 13 Feb 16 22:35
Just had my NZ lay at 23 taken. Just 1 more lay at 21.

NZ's chances of winning this are remote unless they go along at 6 an over for a couple of sessions.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 13 Feb 16 22:35
Theoretically NZ post 550-600 and they set Aus a target.

Draw going out because we are not even halfway through the match.

Market will be turned on its head if NZ can go 100-0

So much time left in this game

Whoops thought they declared!
By:
DAN1974
When: 13 Feb 16 22:36
i thought they had declared aswell, that would of explained the market change
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Feb 16 22:41
Topped up on 9s 8.8
By:
the whizz kids
When: 13 Feb 16 22:43
draw will drop like a stone soon. it's just a waiting game
By:
jucel69
When: 13 Feb 16 22:45

Feb 13, 2016 -- 10:43PM, the whizz kids wrote:


draw will drop like a stone soon. it's just a waiting game


Draw should be 6s and Aus's price is fair. NZ should be at least 100

By:
pxb
When: 13 Feb 16 22:48
draw will drop like a stone soon. it's just a waiting game

It will, but wickets will fall. Market always over estimates chances of a draw in these situations.
By:
the whizz kids
When: 13 Feb 16 22:48

Feb 13, 2016 -- 10:45PM, jucel69 wrote:


Feb 13, 2016 -- 10:43PM, the whizz kids wrote:draw will drop like a stone soon. it's just a waiting gameDraw should be 6s and Aus's price is fair. NZ should be at least 100


agreed. Market needs to sort itself out and it will do.

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