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By:
BJT
When: 18 Jul 15 12:45
Very little time up my sleeve at the moment.  Only turn up when things matter and big chance to put some coin in the pocket....
Decent day, just looking to put a cherry or 2 on top...
By:
slip5
When: 18 Jul 15 12:46
out
By:
slip5
When: 18 Jul 15 12:46
87 stokes out Laugh
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jul 15 12:47
And of course, cherries taken off, and half the cake there.   ffs.  Was only looking for a couple of extra ticks.
By:
slip5
When: 18 Jul 15 12:48
2 wickets away from tailenders
By:
DStyle
When: 18 Jul 15 12:55
trying to get a feel for the draw price with england chasing something impossible in 5 sessions.

let's not worry about the slim risk of rain on Monday morning. I'm thinking Aus 1.4
By:
Rider
When: 18 Jul 15 12:59
after the early lay of england this game has been too slow marketwise, other than the aussie spike last night
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jul 15 13:04
Is Cook too good to walk in with Butler????
By:
treble
When: 18 Jul 15 13:08
I think Warnes wrong. If England are all out by tea or just after, I think they will enforce the follow on. Not doing so makes this a nailed on draw imo
By:
Rider
When: 18 Jul 15 13:11
clarke does love a daring declaration though
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jul 15 13:15
Looking at ~80 overs bowled.  Follow on won't happen in that scenario.  Bowlers will be rested.
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 18 Jul 15 13:15
wot do the english and aussies have in common?

ans) both have totally sh1t bookmakers.


just tried to place a bet with luxbet and got offered £23 at 1.7.
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jul 15 13:20
English own all the Aus bookmakers..
By:
Rider
When: 18 Jul 15 13:20
what is the 1.7 for?
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 18 Jul 15 13:20
innings runs bet.
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 18 Jul 15 13:21
What happened to cricket bet live bookmaker. Is it still around?
By:
frog2
When: 18 Jul 15 13:30
Luxbet is Australian owned by Tabcorp. Crownbet is Australian. Sportsbet is Irish owned. So not all Aussie firms are British owned. Do any of the Aussie owned firms take a bet? I don't remember Tom Waterhouse being too keen to take bets before Hills got it.
By:
DStyle
When: 18 Jul 15 13:31
everyone says marshall.

he was f*cking frightening.
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jul 15 13:31
Yawn.....
By:
johnnythebull
When: 18 Jul 15 13:56
that was a catch
By:
slip5
When: 18 Jul 15 14:00
that should have stayed with umpires call
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 18 Jul 15 14:13
One of the commentators dismissed the possibility of a follow-on enforcement a few minutes ago. Anyone suggest why it's assumed Aus wouldn't? It seems the safest bet to avoid a draw, especially with weather risks.
By:
DStyle
When: 18 Jul 15 14:21
number of reasons:

the biggest one is probably that wickets will be easiest to come by on day 5,

scoring 250 off 40 in the evening of day 3 and the morning of day 4 to set up a declaration and bat england out of the game is easier than trying to score 150 off 40 on day 5 on a wearing pitch to win the match and potentially avoid defeat.
By:
johnnythebull
When: 18 Jul 15 14:22
Buttler just ain't cutting it in the test side
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jul 15 14:23
2 balls ago managed to back Aus (to lock in 500 loss for the day) and at the same time lay the draw for 2 grand.  Puts me about even for the day if I trade out now.... 

Hmmmm  PlainPlain
By:
johnnythebull
When: 18 Jul 15 14:24
ur lot are gonna win..sit back
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jul 15 14:27
VWD of course but the Australasian to walk when out even though would have taken a review to get him....  Love
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 18 Jul 15 14:27
aus backers must have been getting a little twitchy there were they? butler gave it away tho
By:
jucel69
When: 18 Jul 15 14:28
Should be dropped after walking then. No way that would have been given out by the 3rd. Disgraceful
By:
Injera
When: 18 Jul 15 14:31
He was out so he walked off.

It's called integrity.
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jul 15 14:32
Probably will be dropped.  Broad to be still playing obviously has big pull in selection.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 18 Jul 15 14:33
U think he will be dropped because he admitted he was out? da ****
By:
jucel69
When: 18 Jul 15 14:36

Jul 18, 2015 -- 2:33PM, GRANTCKING wrote:


U think he will be dropped because he admitted he was out? da ****


yeh he should be dropped for that, we are 350 runs behind. The umps are there to make the decisions, not the batsmen. Dharama shook his head in the negative and the 3rd couldn't have overturned it. He needs a major bollocking for that imo

By:
DStyle
When: 18 Jul 15 14:38
i like the fact that buttler walks, but it's so much less of an issue with drs, that i'm surprised we haven't seen more walkers spring up.

when there was no review system, i accept that it never made sense to walk, effectively you were exposing yourself to all the bad  umpiring decisions not going your way with none of the bad ones going your way, so you were kneecapping yourself. but with DRS what's the point in waiting around when you know that a review will show that you hit it.
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jul 15 14:40
Can't agree.  If you know you are out, you walk.  Simple.
By:
DStyle
When: 18 Jul 15 14:41
so  long as the bowlers don't appeal when they know it's not out.....
By:
jucel69
When: 18 Jul 15 14:42

Jul 18, 2015 -- 2:38PM, DStyle wrote:


i like the fact that buttler walks, but it's so much less of an issue with drs, that i'm surprised we haven't seen more walkers spring up.when there was no review system, i accept that it never made sense to walk, effectively you were exposing yourself to all the bad  umpiring decisions not going your way with none of the bad ones going your way, so you were kneecapping yourself. but with DRS what's the point in waiting around when you know that a review will show that you hit it.


He didn't even wait for the decision, which would have been not out. Fair enough if you are given out & then you don't review it, but at least let the ump make the decision & allow the fielders the chance to review it or not. It wasn't even a convincing appeal.

By:
VardonVoo.
When: 18 Jul 15 14:43
Thanks DS.

I still think the slight weather risk makes a F/O a sensible choice. England could easily collapse in their second dig with their current mindset.

BJT - in your scenario I'd maybe scale out and reduce a proportion of my loss. Then if the odds slowly move back to where they were put the same position back on and trade out again on the next wicket. I get the feeling Aus odds won't go much lower then 1.25 even if Eng get all out so maybe there's also short-term trading lay with limited downside.
By:
jucel69
When: 18 Jul 15 14:44

Jul 18, 2015 -- 2:40PM, BJT wrote:


Can't agree.

By:
GRANTCKING
When: 18 Jul 15 14:45
BKT = DOUBLE SPACE HOOLIGAN AGAIN LaughCryDevil
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