Trott leaves tour

he tore a heart string......
plus he had run out of clean underpants

Jonathan Trott has left England's Ashes tour due to a "stress-related illness".

The England Cricket Board said on Twitter that Trott would will take a break from cricket for the foreseeable future and his return to cricket would be determined "in due course".

"I don't feel it is right that I'm playing knowing that I'm not 100% and I cannot currently operate at the level I have done in the past," said Trott via Twitter.

"My priority now is to take a break from cricket so that I can focus on my recovery. I want to wish my teammates all the very best for the remainder of the tour."

Good luck to him, hope he gets back to the top of his game again, very good batsman

Funny you say that banana because Australia decided to fight fire with fire this summer, guess its a case of the chicken and the egg LOL

Stress in the work place has become the "BUZZ" word. "20 years ago it wasn't even considered. Good luck to him anyway.

Aussie Driver 25 Nov 13 08:50 
Pathetic. Once again can give but can't take. The double standards from you lot are unreal




Hi Mr Warner, welcome to the betfair forum.

Trott hasn't looked right for a while. You don't suddenly turn into a bad player overnight. Stress related conditions can take an awful toll, not just on your mind but on your body. If he was struggling, he shouldnt have put himself in the firing line. He's obviously a proud man and it takes a lot to admit you've got a problem like that.

If it was known within the game (and therefore the Aussie camp) that he was struggling with this illness then Warner should be ashamed with what he came out and said.

Yes that's all well and good, and I agree some things are off limits, but you English, not just on the field but off it, have produced a disgusting level of sledging and abuse in recent times. You can't cop it when it comes back, and he should not have been on tour if he is genuinely clinically depressed.

It remains the English generally have big mouths when it's all good, and go crying like sooks when they are seriously challenged

at least warner had a go at him whilst in the heat of battle

it seems the team on top is more vocal than the losing team
on a regular basis, and it seems to be a way of maintaining
their superiority.

well, to me, there's something that doesn't add up here.

the camp are claiming the problems were known, it therefore was surely a very dangerous and stupid decision (both in regards to his health and the success of the team) to take him on tour, to select him but most of all to not provide a suitable replacement as an understudy should his condition deteriorate*.

they travel with a psychologist for heaven's sake. What's he been saying? Why does he condition now need to be "assessed" if it was known as Flower claims? or were they hoping for one good innings, and poof, away this chronic condition goes and everyone is happy. Did the psychologist really offer such advice?

i'm not form the Alan Brazil school of "stress related illnesses", I fully acknowledge that they are bona fide mental health issues rather than being the acute state of being under stress, or feeling blue. I don't know the extent of Trott's condition, but it has either been handled exceptionally poorly by England, or there may be a smokescreen here, in that there's a chance that he's been dropped or dropped himself.

(*RockMonkey is entirely correct. Compton is without doubt, the most suitable replacement. We need a dour attritional batsmen who is capable of blunting an end and getting through the new ball. (He's also South African).Ballance Bairstow or Stokes are risible replacements. He won't get the call, as one of the most obvious traits of the whole England set-up is its inability to address its mistakes and admit them, but if he did, Compton has every right to unleash on how badly he's been treated.)

What did Warner say that was so bad? That he was gutless and scared of the fast ball? Is that it?

both of Trott's dismissals were weak.

poor, scared batting.

attribute them to whatever you will, but it does not stop it being poor weak batting.

Warner's mistake was to say it to the press. As Flower said, it's not appropriate to make comments of that nature on the opposition to the press.

taking trott out of the team cannot weaken the team if he was in poor health


maybe the aussies would prefer him still there for the next 4 games ?

never seen so many gutless poms when facing johnston

but typical, sledge all you like, but when you get  a taste of your own medicine sledging and beaten, its the normal pom thing....WHINGE

megsy 25 Nov 13 10:23 
never seen so many gutless poms when facing johnston

but typical, sledge all you like, but when you get  a taste of your own medicine sledging and beaten, its the normal pom thing....WHINGE




Who is Johnston?

And who is whingeing? I doubt you'll meet a single Englishmen who will say anything other than you absolutely murdered us. In fairness though, i'm not sure you'd know what the normal reaction to us being beaten was, because most of this England cricket team aren't used to losing to the Aussies. Nice of you to pipe up for the first time in nearly 7 years though.

I doubt Warner would have known about Trott's fragile mental state. Michael Vaughan is close to the England team has been tweeting that he was completely in the dark and feels guilty about commenting on Trott's poor form.

I personally don't have a problem with sledging. Directed in the right manner it can be very effective. There is no doubt that Mitchell Johnson used it brilliantly in Brisbane, and all credit to him. Even as an England fan I can appreciate a quality player who has battled form finally finding the right rhythm and kicking Australia over the line.

However, if Clarke is right and he has heard worse things being said then why are the umpires not stepping in? There HAS to be a line in the sand. There are plenty of examples of very amusing sledges from the last 20-30 years. However, threatening to break players arms and potentially ruin their livelihood? Coaches calling for fans to barrack touring players. Whoever does it is immaterial. The fact it has evolved to this level is unacceptable. It will eventually turn people off the sport and be another nail in the coffin of Test Match Cricket.

I feel very sad for Trotty. As a fellow slaphead he was my favourite player. Just like Trescothick a few years ago, Cricket is the poorer for the loss. Get well soon Trotty.

Finally, as for fellow posters on this thread using phrases like 'gutless poms', 'crying like sooks', and suggesting that Trott had 'run out of clean underwear' - you really should take a long hard look at yourselves in the mirror. The man is suffering from an illness, and you do not understand. However, it is probably just because you are poorly educated so I will make an allowance.

Warner just fits the mould of the Aussie fcukwit.

I agree with Pastie.
Cricket has always had its share of people who were basically depressives but until recent years they have just had to get on with it without much help or sympathy. As a result enough famous cricketers have ended up killing themselves for a book to be written about it. One of the current tour party will be all too aware of what happened to his father. Arthue Shrewsbury,the best professional batsman of his day,shot himself. Ironically another once-famous though now forgotten Australian cricketer called Trott also committed suicide. Yet another one was a test cricketer called Harold Gimblett,and the wiki piece on him is well worth reading.At least people like Trescothick and Trott can get professional help which was not really available to those others. Gimblett was given electric shock treatment,but that appears to have made him worse.

just been out with the dog and thought about this some more.

it makes even less sense.

It appears it was an exceptionally well kept secret such that even those close to the England camp were completely unaware of it.

Now that's possible.

But Flower now claims that Trott needs rest and recuperation and time with his family. Could you not have rested him from the ODIs after the ashes. It was only after a miserable run of form that he was finally not included for the 5th ODI.

And Trott seemed to frequently pop up with things to say during the Ashes themselves. Is defending himself against the media the best way to manage someone with stress issues? Did he that as well as having to worry about his batting?

Again, I don't know. Maybe it's all as they say. But there seems to be some staggeringly poor management of his condition, and can it really monumentally explode from being well managed to immediate exit from the entire tour, off the back of two terrible innings? I'm sure it's possible, but in both Banger's and Yardy's cases, it didn't happen like that.