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India v England: 4th Test, Nagpur
India v England: 4th Test, Nagpur
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Remember for ENG to win 22 wickets will need to fall
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Still have hefty red on India, big green on England/Draw - can still even out small-medium green (2.5% of bank)
Credit to India, they have changed the dynamic - was out last night, didn't get involved just watched this morning. I'll be toying with two approaches: (1) Play on the volatility: - even out green at the start and then play (continual back/lay) a potentially volatile market - e.g England wicket, India price crash - lay India immediately etc. England look settled, draw price steadily comes in, get in early and out early, just taking bits. In essence, playing the market with green as opposed to the match (2) Leave alone, in my staunch belief that the Indian attack just is not potent enough to bowl England out tomorrow, and the pitch unlikely to help them that much Option 2 is the current preferred approach. |
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why are india 3's and england 6? just loggged in whats going on here..
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kingmax, the logic is that if England bat well, they'll bat into tomorrow and ensure the draw - very unlikely to declare and force the result. Plus mug Indian money as well
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tomorrow - meaning Day 5
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Ultimately, it's much harder for ENG to force a result even if they wanted to
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Englands chances of winning depend on how well India bowl and we all know Indias bowling is ****
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lix is right at 1.83 the draw is gr8 value for a trade
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Draw a big lay for me now.
Bottom line here is that both sides will have to bat at least 80 overs in the 2nd innings for this to be a draw. England might need to bat 120 to make the game safe. All this on Day 4/5 for a series decider with all the pressure that entails. Agree that the England / India differential is wrong currently - for me England the only side guaranteed to have a chance of winning the game - even if England get done for 150 second dig they aren't going to be longer than they are now. |
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Draw could be busted by tea tomorrow WS?
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could also be 1.2 A.M
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india 3.3 feels a free lay until we bat. The market does realise India have Ishant batting right?
He has ZERO shots. none at all. just a pure blocker. eng will be quite happy to see him take time out of the game. |
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Not many scenarios where England end day 4 longer than they are now?
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Ashwin has to go berserk from ball one tomorrow, try and get a quick 20/30, if he gets out in the first over then so be it.
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AM- what about ashwin adding another 70 runs here like he did last test..
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eng way shorter than 6.4 if they are 200/5 at close imo.
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Bar in mind, if india have say 60 overs to get 300, they might start out going for it but if they lose a couple i cant see them still trying to chase.
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you cant get 300 off 60 overs on this pitch sudo imo..not when you can bowl legitimate wides and use delaying tactics
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if parity reached and england 200-5 at end of play draw will be lot shorter and so would england India a price
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Im out of this match
Getting up last three mornings at 4am have taken its toll  Level greened up job done Cant pick a winner from here got a feeling theres gonna be some twists and turns yet |
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Either batting gets really hard and England get out for 160 and then get India out for less or it keeps palying as it has and England get 250 in 4 sessions and it is a draw. Unless our batting completely implodes, India can't win.
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ENGLAND CANNOT WIN
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no **** sherlock
mind you posting that has just given england backers a huge boost |
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i dont see how india have more chance of winning than england..
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india are the only side that can win . that is obvious .
england are playing for a draw . |
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morse if india skittle england cheaply, then the wicket will have worsened..if thats the case, then india could just as easily crumble...however the law of averages say you will finally win a bet this series
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Was hoping for a lay in tomorrow.
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England will have to bat a minimum 100 overs to save the game and win the series assuming their r/r will be similar to that in their 1st inns
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and if india need around 250 / 275 in 60 / 70 overs they will go for it as must win
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My only red is India now and it's quite significant. I'm tempted to bail out.
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If you can get all green i would do paul
England aint had a batting collapse for a while one is overdue Could see them being all out for 220 giving india a day to get it Sehwag and gambhir go nuts early and set a platform for the rest of the team Virat and MS got some confidence now after two great knocks Im all of a sudden talking myself into dipping my toe in the market again think the next two days will be a minefield 3 days of your hard work could be undone and some |
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you see MP personally i do not think it will be a draw as India must go for win whilst england batting 100 overs or so will be tricky as their intent from day one was to win the series Skips has summed it up well and in the main share the same view as well as india will bowl 4 spinners from memory and will bowl most of the overs so could get an extra 5 overs if not more at england tomorrow as like on day 1
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having said that the draw will trade shorter at some point so its really when the best time to lay
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Well it's gonna be an interesting day tomorrow. All of a sudden England's batting line up doesn't look great in this situation.
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not against 4 spinners with the ball starting to turn slowly can see england just surviving but will be a tall order to survive minimum 100 over imo say england out 270 ish which is reasonable and india say 30 / 40 for 0 the market will all want to be with india and rightly so
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Cook will be they key he brings confidence and belief to the team
If he goes early i fear for them Bell has the backbone of a snake Compton i still dont trust Kp could do something silly Trott not in great nick Root fair play to the lad different kind of pressure second time around Then the tail prior and swann are useful but if they 6 down again the pressure will be immense The indians will come alive the crowd will come alive The two english batsman at he crease will just want the ground to open up there will be appeal's galore |
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I'm gonna hang fire until close of play tomorrow and reassess. Nobody can say for certain what will happen. The Dhoni / Kholi partnership was totally unexpected. Praying for rain here!
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