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So what are you saying edy? It is impossible to shield the vulnerable so lets trash the economy instead?
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Trashing the economy will kill more than the virus, my advice is start making a garden, my dads doing that now as well
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why ask silly meaningless questions having failed to comprehend the basics of your own post ?
just keep trolling it you are better at that than serious topics |
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If you are a youngster handing over 70% of your income to some old codger in rent every month, l would doubt you'd give a flying f*** if they caught the virus, in fact the young might think it's pay back time.
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"**** business and the economy"
Must be the stupidest post ive seen on here. |
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and there's a lot of competition
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Your right about that. Its some achievement.
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edy is German, doesn't care about the UK economy
How did you get the f*ck word through without censorship? |
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I find it a bit curious that business and the economy are the be all of everything now, when it was very much fuck business and the economy when it was about going after a vain vanity project.
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Platinum membership, Fire-and-Ice. If you have a long history of exceptional maturity and responsibility, you will be given certain privileges on the forum like the forum word filter not applying to your posts.
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22 Apr 20 13:30 Joined: 06 Jul 10 | Topic/replies: 7,179 | Blogger: ----you-have-to-laugh---'s blog why ask silly meaningless questions having failed to comprehend the basics of your own post ? just keep trolling it you are better at that than serious topics ^ Asking for evidence of a policy working is called trolling now? Why do you blindly follow what the government is saying? Escpecially now we know the Imperial College report was flawed. |
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Are people allowed to be critical of the government without you calling them ignorant UK haters?
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sounds like a mod privilege to me.
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A mod privilege would be to arbitrarily ban you. Wanna test my patience?
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Rest assured that I am no mod.
...or am I? ![]() |
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I said you didn't care, because you are German, edy
I don't care about the German economy It doesn't make me a hater Why do you distort posts? Is that mature and responsible? |
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you are not asking for evidence of a policy working you are asking a series of ever
narrower silly questions getting further and further away from topic as you know you have been found out for trolling again |
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That uk hater one wasn't directed at you. It was directed at the person who shouted down criticism about the government and his precious Boris a few weeks ago on here. I was merely asking if his highness allows people to be critical now that the grifters have convinced him Boris is doing it all wrong.
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lets get this thread back on track
InsiderTrader Date Joined: 25 Aug 05 Deaths involving COVID-19 Our latest data on weekly deaths registrations include deaths involving COVID-19. Up to 10 April, there were 10,350 deaths registered in England and Wales involving COVID-19 (6,348 men and 4,002 women). The majority of deaths involving COVID-19 have been among people aged 65 years and over (8,998 out of 10,350), with 39% (3,485) of these occurring in the over-85 age group. Our figures are based on deaths registered in the stated period and include all deaths where “COVID-19” was mentioned on death certificates. They differ from those published by the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC), which are based on deaths occurring to date among hospital patients who have tested positive for COVID-19. DHSC figures are valuable because they are available quickly and give an indication of what is happening daily. Our numbers are slower to prepare because they have to be certified by a doctor, registered and processed. But once ready, they are the most comprehensive. ^ Up to April 10th 126 people under 45 died in the UK with Covid 19 mentioned. 90% over 65 and 40% over 85. It is becoming more and more obvious that we should be properly shielding older and vulnerable people. Only 1 in Ten is under 65 yet we are all under house arrest. |
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ok edy.
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You can't slag Germans/Germany, if Mrs Merkel was in charge the UK might actually be returning to work and the lockdown easing,tubes/transport packed and slow action to curb spread is why the UK is where it is.
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when all the missing carehome deaths are added in, the 1.22% will decrease even further.
if wiping out our war heroes is your aim, lets lift the lockdown now |
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you-have-to-laugh,
Do you blindly support the UK and USA policies that come out of Neil Ferguson's 'paper' at Imperial College or do you think we are right to question it when stats like 1.2% of the deaths are people under 45? |
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#endthelockdown
80% of salary for doing f*ckall... are you all idiots? |
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I said on the 4th of April on the French care homes thread there should be NHS "swat" teams in to try and help them, zero done.
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why not type out neil fergusons paper, or supply a link to it
then everybody can have an idea what you mean? |
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as i have said, 1.2 is just a ratio.
you really seem to have zero grasp of maths if we did not lock down and it remained at 1.2 % whilst total under 45 deaths rose to 20,000 do you understand what figures would be for total worldwide deaths ? your maffs up to it ? |
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Many young people will have suffered supposedly mild effects of Coronavirus
However, we don't know enough about it ... for young people now who have had the virus the long terms effects are as yet not known .. perhaps nothing but what if their health or immune systom is compromised .. it might cast a long shadow years down the line |
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Again (
),Putting deaths to one side for a bit, what's the number of under-45's who have required medical or hospital treatement and what are the estimates for the effect on the NHS if the lockdown was lifted and we essentially encouraged them to get the virus? Would that then lead to overload? And as geordie said, what is the number of people whose health has been compromised by the virus? Still alive but been left with COPD or similar? And what would the costs be to the state of this if we encouraged everyone else to catch it? |
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PorcupineorPineapple
22 Apr 20 14:36 Joined: 03 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 9,377 | Blogger: PorcupineorPineapple's blog Again (Mischief), Putting deaths to one side for a bit, what's the number of under-45's who have required medical or hospital treatement and what are the estimates for the effect on the NHS if the lockdown was lifted and we essentially encouraged them to get the virus? Would that then lead to overload? geordie1956 22 Apr 20 14:34 Joined: 28 Dec 11 | Topic/replies: 7,734 | Blogger: geordie1956's blog Many young people will have suffered supposedly mild effects of Coronavirus However, we don't know enough about it ... for young people now who have had the virus the long terms effects are as yet not known .. perhaps nothing but what if their health or immune systom is compromised .. it might cast a long shadow years down the line ^ Show us the scientific evidence for these theories to justify such a massive policy experiment. Remember this whole thing of shutting the economy down will cost the UK hundreds of billions of pounds. Several years of the NHS budget gone. |
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geordies idea could well be taken up by Government if they need to scare the kids even more to keep them in line.
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what is 1.2% of the total of the worlds population under the age of 45 ?
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Here is the link for the hospital deaths data...
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/ You will see we are now up to 118 under 40s in hospitals from 16272. That is 0.7%. I will see if they have admissions data. |
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22 Apr 20 14:56 Joined: 06 Jul 10 | Topic/replies: 7,187 | Blogger: ----you-have-to-laugh---'s blog what is 1.2% of the total of the worlds population under the age of 45 ? ^ Why do you want that figure? 1.2% is percentage of all deaths that are under 45 on the ONS data up to 10th April. It is not a death rate. People keep asking me for data to back up points they want to make to justify this radical policy. Should it not be the other way round - those that want a total lockdown provide evidence to justify it? |
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thats not what you were talking about nor what i requested.
me suggesting the 1.2 would fall once carehome deaths started to be added in proving to be correct as i understand maffs better than you |
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why do i want that figure ?
that is the total number of humans you are prepared to kill to allow you freedom to roam |
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I think theres a flaw in your logic yhtl.
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and moreover to show the crazy way percentages are miss used to make a point ...
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yeah i know dotchinite, its the same flaw in original argument, but magnified for even more effect
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Show us the scientific evidence for these theories to justify such a massive policy experiment.
If all you ever do is sea-lion anyone who raises valid arguments then what's the point? Why is it a policy experiment. Show me the science that it's more of an experiment than ending lockdown with a killer virus still swarming the country and your evidence that the NHS would be able to handle the number of cases involved and there would be no after-effects. How about you do that if you're so convinced that under-45's will emerge from this fine. |