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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Deaths involving COVID-19
Our latest data on weekly deaths registrations include deaths involving COVID-19. Up to 10 April, there were 10,350 deaths registered in England and Wales involving COVID-19 (6,348 men and 4,002 women).
The majority of deaths involving COVID-19 have been among people aged 65 years and over (8,998 out of 10,350), with 39% (3,485) of these occurring in the over-85 age group.
Our figures are based on deaths registered in the stated period and include all deaths where “COVID-19” was mentioned on death certificates. They differ from those published by the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC), which are based on deaths occurring to date among hospital patients who have tested positive for COVID-19.
DHSC figures are valuable because they are available quickly and give an indication of what is happening daily. Our numbers are slower to prepare because they have to be certified by a doctor, registered and processed. But once ready, they are the most comprehensive.
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Up to April 10th 126 people under 45 died in the UK with Covid 19 mentioned.
90% over 65 and 40% over 85.
It is becoming more and more obvious that we should be properly shielding older and vulnerable people.
Only 1 in Ten is under 65 yet we are all under house arrest.
Deaths involving COVID-19
Our latest data on weekly deaths registrations include deaths involving COVID-19. Up to 10 April, there were 10,350 deaths registered in England and Wales involving COVID-19 (6,348 men and 4,002 women).
The majority of deaths involving COVID-19 have been among people aged 65 years and over (8,998 out of 10,350), with 39% (3,485) of these occurring in the over-85 age group.
Our figures are based on deaths registered in the stated period and include all deaths where “COVID-19” was mentioned on death certificates. They differ from those published by the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC), which are based on deaths occurring to date among hospital patients who have tested positive for COVID-19.
DHSC figures are valuable because they are available quickly and give an indication of what is happening daily. Our numbers are slower to prepare because they have to be certified by a doctor, registered and processed. But once ready, they are the most comprehensive.
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Up to April 10th 126 people under 45 died in the UK with Covid 19 mentioned.
90% over 65 and 40% over 85.
It is becoming more and more obvious that we should be properly shielding older and vulnerable people.
Only 1 in Ten is under 65 yet we are all under house arrest.
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Same story in Italy...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1106372/coronavirus-death-rate-by-age-group-italy/ 1.22% of deaths under 45 |
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Same in Spain...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1105596/covid-19-mortality-rate-by-age-group-in-spain-march/ |
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Yes ....... #endthelockdown
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Opps.
We have locked down Europe for something that barely seems to touch younger people. Of those younger people many will have underlying conditions or be healthcare workers exposed to massive doses. At the same time we have not put a ring of steel around the vulnerable groups - particularly those in care homes. |
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Who should be held responsible for that ?
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All the western governments who followed this policy and the scientists they choose to take advise from?
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Reponsible: The governments of the UK all are singing from the same hymn sheet
to not close off care homes and protect staff and residents from when this became known is a dereliction of duty |
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Massive failure of society to group think following the panic from Lombardy. Will be a case study for years to come.
We had the data from China back in mid-Feb. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1099662/china-wuhan-coronavirus-covid-19-fatality-rate-by-age-group/ 1.1% of deaths under 50s? A few hundred people. Globally now we are probably looking at just over 2,000 deaths for under 45s. |
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Is the total lockdown not to ensure that the arrogant, invincible, assymptomatic young don't carry on as normal, catch the virus and then spread it wider and wider, making it much more likely that the vulnerable catch it?
Good to see we've cleared up the China data argument and can now accept their statistics as kosher. |
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Bang on PP,many houses have at least 2 generations if not 3 in house,ya can't lock granny in the cupboard under the stairs if the younger people in house out working.
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I've seen this argument before (obvs).
What is the number of non-vulnerable (under-50 etc) who have still need hospitalising or a GP visit etc? The point of the lockdown (in a big part) was not to overload the NHS wasn't it? That's not just measured in deaths but more in the number of people treated and time taken etc. Anyone know the number for that? |
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China ages seem to match those of Europe. Not sure about the numbers although they have gone up.
PP in terms of the vulnerable surely if they are on lockdown and resources are put into things like care homes ring of steel with proper PPE etc then they do not catch it from the younger people. That is the point. At the moment large numbers of deaths are at care homes yet families with young kids with very low chances of dying are in house arrest. |
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its 1.2 % of deaths because the rate of death of older folk is so high.
its a ratio, not a figure. your lack of understanding of simple maths does rather make me wonder why you are on a gambling forum |
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lapsy pa
22 Apr 20 12:11 Joined: 29 Jan 09 | Topic/replies: 3,536 | Blogger: lapsy pa's blog Bang on PP,many houses have at least 2 generations if not 3 in house,ya can't lock granny in the cupboard under the stairs if the younger people in house out working. ^ How many though? Around 1.4% of over 65s live in a household with children. That drops to less that 1% for over 70s and around 0.6% for over 75s. |
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if the old folk are wiped out and only under 45 s survive, the same number of deaths in under 45s would
account for 100% of the deaths,  |
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how many under 45 s dont have older relatives or dont care about older folk.?
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---you-have-to-laugh---
22 Apr 20 12:18 Joined: 06 Jul 10 | Topic/replies: 7,166 | Blogger: ----you-have-to-laugh---'s blog its 1.2 % of deaths because the rate of death of older folk is so high. its a ratio, not a figure. your lack of understanding of simple maths does rather make me wonder why you are on a gambling forum ^ Real number was 126 people before April 10th. That is an absolute figure. We know some of those were healthcare workers. Other people have been in the press who have underlying conditions. As a comparison around 5000 under 45 kill themselves a year through suicide. Could we put billions into helping reduce that instead? |
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----you-have-to-laugh---
22 Apr 20 12:21 Joined: 06 Jul 10 | Topic/replies: 7,168 | Blogger: ----you-have-to-laugh---'s blog if the old folk are wiped out and only under 45 s survive, the same number of deaths in under 45s would account for 100% of the deaths, ^ That is why you shield the old and the vulnerable. |
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we dont know that because we know the tests were not carried out on all folk that died, and the tests didnt work anyway.
what % of your126 were healthcare workers ? |
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we didnt shield anybody by going for herd immunity and locking down too late
10 s of thousands were exterminated by the tory failed policy you spend your life defending |
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Not exactly sure by April 10th.
There were a couple of nurses in their 30s. Must be a few others. |
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So is the consensus that the currently lock down is the correct policy?
How long should it go on for? What is your criteria to end it? |
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the consensus is the lockdown being briught in too late exterminated tens of thousands of uk citizens
the consensus is lifting it too soo will have similar effect internet trolls and nutters spreading malicious fake news would like it lifted too soon it would seem |
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Point 5 on the exit strategy needs an explanation Insider Trader. It baffles me that no one in the media seems to be asking what it actually means.
5.) NO CHANCE of a second peak It's pretty obvious we are over the first peak but when the hell is 5.) going to be satisfied it needs clarification. |
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123 the total number of people in uk aged under 40 who have died from the virus
This lockdown for the relatively young is bollx 100, 000,000 the additional number of people worldwide who will be pushed into food poverty in the forthcoming world recession because of lockdown .... many millions of whom will die from starvation and disease. What is wrong with our leaders? Stopping the lockdown for the relatively young/middle age who do not have chronic health problems is best for the health of our nation, best for the economy and best for the world. Now enough is known about this - GET ON WITH IT all of us need to tell our respective MP's Its so fecking obvious that we almost need another referendum In fact - I may petition for one …back later  |
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Anyway as said above,whatever age it is a nasty thing,wasn't Boris at deaths door? and he only 55.
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Out of that 123 less than a dozen would have not had a serious underlying issue.
Its not a nasty thing for most at all. Thats more scaremongering. Boris is in another high risk group. He is FAT. |
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Not only that but here is another beauty https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/nurse-shortage-causes-nightingale-hospital-to-turn-away-patients/ar-BB131cqx?ocid=spartanntp
The great saviour is empty and turning away patients because of a nurse shortage  I mean by this point even the great lord above can't rescue these pieces of s*** I find it pointless trying to wake the likes of Angoose up because they are benefitting financially from this and are of course going to act accordingly |
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Thinking about the "no chance of 2nd peak" nonsense. I suppose, if we lifted all restrictions, went back to normal and ended up with 300k+ deaths then that would be one certain way of avoiding a 2nd peak (because there would only really be one peak to talk about)
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I don't even think its a real influenza, its just the same one we get every year, dotch
And there's no way of avoiding it because its a natural response to toxins by the body, you can hide away in your house but if your body is fighting something its going to fight it whether you're on a bus to work or stuck in the basement at home The truth will come out one day |
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Why is no one talking about it, one of the first questions I'd be asking.
They could try and say 'this is not the time to talk about exit strategy' but they'd look fecking daft given they have now given us the strategy and the question is merely about clarification of this point. |
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Sweden have far fewer deaths and cases of this thing and they are all out at work
One of the idiots will bring a graph to say their worse than us, but for numbers they are far better off ffs There's no cure for an bodily response to toxins, using death and some "virus" to scare you inside |
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^ GoBallistic
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Indeed stridingedge. You could understand if they said something non-specific and meaningless like "minimizing the chance of a 2nd wave". But "no chance" ? I wonder how they would price up "no chance" on here. 100 ? 1000 ?
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And what are labour calling for?
Immediate lockdowns the moment a small outbreak occurs, could even be the flu in the winter They can now destroy you for a small influenza outbreak, top work your spineless cowards |
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Exactly GB
I think the PPE has taken over most of the questions. Ironically the media were consistently asking about when can lockdown be released and they were consistently batted away with 'this is not the time to discuss exit strategy'. They have now been given the criteria for exit from the govt but no one is questioning them over it. |
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----you-have-to-laugh---
22 Apr 20 12:33 Joined: 06 Jul 10 | Topic/replies: 7,175 | Blogger: ----you-have-to-laugh---'s blog the consensus is the lockdown being briught in too late exterminated tens of thousands of uk citizens the consensus is lifting it too soo will have similar effect ^ What is your scientific evidence for this? Which country has lock down successfully reduced deaths for under 45s as a direct result of the lockdown? And do they compare with countries that have had no lockdown? |
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How do we lock away the 46 year old vulnerable husband from his not at risk 44 year olf wife?
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