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EMBARRASSED AND SHAMEFUL BRITAIN
EMBARRASSED AND SHAMEFUL BRITAIN
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You think i am trolling YOU? you have some opinion of yourself.
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YOUR JUST JUST A HURLER ON THE DITCH CHEQEURS
FCUK ALL USE TO SOCIETY I'D LOVE TO STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH YOU AND PROVE TO THE WORLD HOW GUTLESS YOU TRULY ARE |
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Just Checking EXPOSED! A. Fawning. Tory. Lackey.
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The English NHS is controlled by the UK government through the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC), which takes political responsibility for the service.
Controlled not run by. |
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CS TY
Its well known but forgotten when it suits |
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Doesn't matter who is in charge . We are forced to look up to idiots who have no idea what they are talking about . Lies , waffle , no real ideas about what to do . We should eb voting for a technocracy , not this shower of jokers Classical mythology ffs....Samson would be pulling his hair out .
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Is that a "gold command" system TGV?
Good post Cardinal Scott 17.37, |
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The government have been in charge of what goes or doesn't go in the NHS. They wanted resuscitators (no bad thing) but at the expenses of PPE. Which really is putting the horse before the cart.
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Whoops, or maybe cart before the horse!
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Just Checking
Do you honestly believe that the government are implementing the Contain phase? |
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tory,s had dr Philip lee,sarah woolaston, both sacrificed on the altar of Brexit and the brexiteers are all locked in a bunker with nothing to say or offer ,there was a labour dr mp near me who was voted out in a leave seat,we,ve got the wrong people in the government/commons for what we,re tackling
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Spanish government faces legal action over lack of PPE for medics
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18351396.spanish-government-faces-legal-action-lack-ppe-medics/ HEALTH professionals in Spain are taking legal action against the Socialist-led government to force it to give them personal protective equipment during the Covid-19 crisis. The State Confederation of Medical Unions (CESM) accused the administration and the country’s health ministry of failing to comply with World Health Organisation (WHO) recommendations to provide members with protective gowns, masks leggings and glasses, as well as installing clinical waste bins in hospitals. Gabriel del Pozo, CESM general secretary, said the government’s inactivity would damage the professionals’ interests “given the extraordinary risk to their physical and moral integrity and protection needs”. High proportion of healthcare workers with COVID-19 in Italy is a stark warning to the world: protecting nurses and their colleagues must be the number one priority https://www.icn.ch/news/high-proportion-healthcare-workers-covid-19-italy-stark-warning-world-protecting-nurses-and Italy’s healthcare workers sacrificing their health in the battle to combat COVID-19 lack sufficient protective equipment to keep them safe. The International Council of Nurses (ICN) and the Italian Nurses Association (CNAI) are warning of the dire consequences of not supplying adequate person protective equipment for nurses working with patients who have COVID-19. Latest figures show that healthcare workers make up 9% of Italy’s COVID-19 cases. Report highlights Ireland's 'worrying' reliance on other countries for PPE supply https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/report-highlights-irelands-worrying-reliance-on-other-countries-for-ppe-supply-992921.html reland's trade deficit for Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) is the seventh largest in the EU. A new report by the Parliamentary Budget Office lays out in stark terms how Ireland's lack of domestic supply of PPE, which includes items such as masks, gowns, gloves, face shields and eyewear worn by medical staff when treating patients, has affected the coronavirus response. Ireland relies heavily on other countries for PPE equipment, and in 2019, it imported €340m more of PPE products than it exported, the seventh largest trade deficit for PPE in the EU. How President Emmanuel Macron bungled France’s coronavirus response https://www.vox.com/2020/4/14/21218927/coronavirus-covid-france-macron-response As Politico reports, the country doesn’t manufacture its own testing kits, but rather “relies on China for their main components.” With China paralyzed by its coronavirus outbreak at the time, France was unable to quickly get more tests. That severely limited the country’s ability to do widespread testing early on, which public health experts say is critical to slowing an outbreak. The problem was compounded by a dearth of masks, leading the government to say only medical workers should wear them, not the general public. It turns out that, as France’s new Health Minister Olivier Véran (who took over in February after Buzyn abruptly resigned to run for mayor of Paris), told Parliament on March 19, France’s strategic supply of personal protective equipment wasn’t as robust as everyone had thought. ^ The children on here do not understand what a global shortage is. Lets not fight amougst ourselves. Lets look at how China and WHO let this happen in the first place. |
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Brexit???? FFS, give it a rest.
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No TGV, a brexit goverment formed for brexit,dealing with a pandemic. Sad but true
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InsiderTrader has gone to school on google I see but I still want a list of those western countries where health workers were instructed to reuse PPE
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Italy & Spain cited, we had several weeks more time to act than they did
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sup CS, are you itching to trade a cricket match?
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No TGV, a brexit goverment formed for brexit,dealing with a pandemic. Sad but true
So what have the non-brexit governments of all the other countries in the world done which show how to deal with a pandemic? Too bad the Germans didn't win the war... we'd all be safe now. |
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Cardinal Scott
Date Joined: 18 Jul 08 Blogger: Cardinal Scott's blog Add contact | Send message 17 Apr 20 18:21 Joined: 18 Jul 08 | Topic/replies: 33,329 | Blogger: Cardinal Scott's blog InsiderTrader has gone to school on google I see but I still want a list of those western countries where health workers were instructed to reuse PPE ^ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-medics-insig/as-spain-battles-virus-medics-unions-hit-out-idUSKBN21K0KN On March 18, the central government issued a document outlining “alternative strategies” for staff dealing with the shortage. Adapted from a similar one prepared by America’s Centers for Disease Control, it said staff lacking masks had five options, including re-using masks or only providing them to staff at the highest risk of infection. It also suggested different kinds of aprons and gloves that could be used. Some nurses have been forced to improvise, fashioning protective clothing from garbage bags, shower caps, or raincoats from a Madrid amusement park. ^ It is extemely naive to think the UK is the only country is this situation. |
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uk an island nation on ytrack to be the worst performer in Europe in handling the virus even with a months notice of what was gpoimng to happen, shoite show
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Brexit needs to be left out of this. If the national referendum had been upheld to begin with, we would still have that government with the said doctors in place. The fact it was constantly delayed by MP's voting against leave constituencies wishes enforced another election where Brexit backing candidates won the majority. So you could say Remainers have landed us with this government.
Anyways, regardless of who is in power, we all need to pull together. |
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lapsy pa
17 Apr 20 18:35 Joined: 29 Jan 09 | Topic/replies: 3,456 | Blogger: lapsy pa's blog You will be by far the worst country in Europe to be affected by this TGV and that maybe even by omitting care home deaths,You so needed a Hunt or Stewart in this but they were "non brexit". You can blame China in the end but from march on,it was in your hands. ^ It is not a competition. France also not looking good. Nor is Spain or Italy or Belgium etc. |
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The only thing with that list of countries is each and every single one are adding in care/nursing home deaths,your goverment is making comparisons with these countries omitting the outside hospital deaths.
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InsiderTrader
I'm not being political though I think the early stages were mishandled (partly because our ability to test was utterly pathetic, this I have no doubt would have been the same under any govt). Do you find it a bit staggering that despite this being discussed as a possibility since the millennium we were so poorly prepared as a country, it seems like for some reason we had very little in place if something like this come knocking and it was always coming at some point. |
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The science must have known that early testing was everything to help get on top of virus before it took too much of a hold. We saw this disease leave china and rip through Europe but by the time it got too rife here we'd had little more advice than to wash our hands regularly.
People like myself in the general population with symptoms as early as the week starting 9th march could no longer get a test, it's quite incredible seeing how important this can be to stop the very early spread with tests/tracing. It wasn't until the models started spinning out incredible fatality numbers and the health system crashing and burning that we seemed to get any real tactics. I knew very little about such things and still do but rationally the scientific advice with the poor systems we had in place (or didn't have), looking back it's hard to see why it wasn't taken more seriously earlier with the lockdown. |
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uk citizens bused 200 mile to Merseyside imprisoned for 2 weeks now 15,000 a day from anywhere and everywhere for 8 weeks waved through uk airports
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If there was a massive shortage of PPE all over Europe, which there was and still is, then why, with advance notice of an outbreak on the way did Euro govts not close off travel immediately and instead let the virus circulate before acting, guaranteeing that the virus would swamp hospitals for the maximum amount of time?
The Asians, with hospitals full of PPE, and probably as much PPE in the general public as we have in our hospitals, got on top of it before it could impact them like it has here. Shower of incompetent mugs. |
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And the WHO, who had seen first hand on the ground exactly how the Asians had got on top of it, didn't advise us to take the same approach.
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Don't necessarily believe the Asian numbers!
A lot of face saving and lies goes on in Asia |
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There are massive civil liberties issues with testing and contact tracing.
Of course in an ideal world you could test anyone for a brand new virus immediately. Other countries such as the USA and Germany have done more tests. But it is the contact tracing where it is won and lost. Singapore has done under 100k tests and South Korea has only done a few more than the UK. But in Singapore and South Korea they use phones, CCTV and credit cards to trace. They are almost cashless societies. They even put this private information online for all to see. There is no privacy. They also have powers to lock someone down with an electronic tag for 14 days or whatever just if they went near someone who had it. In western democracies we must never give governments and police those sorts of powers. |
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there wasn't a shortage of ppe in the uk when the uk slept walked in to this ,with handjob continually standing up in commons saying we,re the best prepared health service in the world for corona,scoffing at Italy,s attempts to control the virus
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Italy give the handjob the answers to the examination paper and handjob threw them in the bin
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Our dogs don't eat bats and our people don't eat dogs...don't be too quick to forget where and why this started.
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Don't necessarily believe the Asian numbers!
concur |
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At least we were a nation of clean hands in early march
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