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By:
darren_discombobulates_sports
When: 27 Mar 20 23:27
One good thing that has come out of the Corona Virus is Air Pollution is much much lower.
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 27 Mar 20 23:34
The most amazing thing in any of this is that China, the most populist country in the world, managed to limit the first wave of the virus to 3,000 deaths (to date), with virtually no new cases in recent weeks. Apart from the early lockdown, and temperature testing, how was this achievable? Or is the answer in the question?
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 27 Mar 20 23:36
*populated
By:
Angoose
When: 27 Mar 20 23:36
That's Italy (919) and Spain (773) both had their largest single day death figures so far.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 27 Mar 20 23:36
Dont believe their figures.
By:
drive for show putt for dough
When: 27 Mar 20 23:37
More questions than answers about the china figures

What about the 8.1 million phone users who disappeared over the course of a month?
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 27 Mar 20 23:40
What about the 8.1 million phone users who disappeared over the course of a month?

I've been on giff gaff myself, notoriously unreliable.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 27 Mar 20 23:40
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-closing-of-21-million-cell-phone-accounts-in-china-may-suggest-a-high-ccp-virus-death-toll_3281291.html

Probably fake but it needs disproving.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 27 Mar 20 23:40
Social Darwinism has now appeared on the forum

Unlock Britain, get back to work, the weak will perish but they deserve to
By:
Angoose
When: 27 Mar 20 23:42
Italy and Spain figures, not pretty reading.

By:
casemoney
When: 27 Mar 20 23:43
Desperate Ang , we are bang in trouble Sad
By:
Angoose
When: 27 Mar 20 23:43

Mar 27, 2020 -- 11:40PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


.https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-closing-of-21-million-cell-phone-accounts-in-china-may-suggest-a-high-ccp-virus-death-toll_3281291.htmlProbably fake but it needs disproving.


As they were laying on their deathbeds gasping their last, they very diligently remembered to get in touch with their mobile provider and cancel their subscriptions.

By:
thegiggilo
When: 27 Mar 20 23:44
Cardinal Scott 27 Mar 20 22:40 
Social Darwinism has now appeared on the forum

Unlock Britain, get back to work, the weak will perish but they deserve to

That's rightwingers for you vermin,who knew?
By:
thegiggilo
When: 27 Mar 20 23:48
Angoose 27 Mar 20 22:43 
Mar 27, 2020 -- 10:40PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:

.https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-closing-of-21-million-cell-phone-accounts-in-china-may-suggest-a-high-ccp-virus-death-toll_3281291.htmlProbably fake but it needs disproving.


As they were laying on their deathbeds gasping their last, they very diligently remembered to get in touch with their mobile provider and cancel their subscriptions.

Rightwing nutjob conspiracy theories,blame game etc etc we should be lookig closer to home with the 21 year old declared corona victim by coroner the hospital have her down in stats as no corona..Who is going to follow this up and get another post mortem?
By:
casemoney
When: 27 Mar 20 23:51
Tbf I did not realise the seriousness of it ,and only wanted Chelts to go Ahead Sad

That needs reporting Gig , he sounds like a complete sick fook Sad
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 27 Mar 20 23:53
it took 4 months to record 300,000 global cases. It has taken 6 days to record the second 300,000.

It took 4 months to record 13,000 global deaths. The number of global deaths has more than doubled in the following 6 days. Today 3,000 recorded deaths there were only 4 times that in the first 4 months.

In a weeks time we will be past a million cases and pushing 100,000 deaths - you can then keep doubling until we hit the peak which in the uk terms is expected to be in around 3 months times.


Eh? If we have a million cases in a week's time, and the number is doubling every six days, well over 8 billion people will be infected in three months' time.

Which is a problem, because there are only 7.8 billion people in the world. A virus from which the average person recovers after a couple of weeks can't possibly infect everybody, because it runs out of hosts way before then. That's what herd immunity is.

And that's assuming only one million are infected now. The true number is way higher, with most infected people being told to stay at home and not get tested.

So, as long as you're correct, and the number of infections doubles every six days, the virus has to be gone in less than three months.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 27 Mar 20 23:55
Has their been a post mortem or you just guessing ?
By:
breadnbutter
When: 27 Mar 20 23:58
Needed phones for work? Lock down,,no woki no foni. Or still hiding in the woods waiting for the ccp hit squad to fck off back to Bjingalin
By:
peckerdunne
When: 27 Mar 20 23:58
it can't just GO
By:
thegiggilo
When: 27 Mar 20 23:58
Coroner stated corona,hospital said no she's down in the stats as no corona virus parents were informed she died of it,i wonder how many will be getting this from hospitals in next couple of weeks..
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 28 Mar 20 00:00
Some people seem to be getting very upset if a person hasn't died with this virus.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 28 Mar 20 00:07
Hopefully will be taking government to court if these cases are being lied about,if its a lie it's endagering others as well crazy.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 28 Mar 20 00:12
Correction: getting very, very upset
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 28 Mar 20 00:16
When people die people are upset, your post is stupid.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 28 Mar 20 00:21
It's not the death he's getting upset about. It's the fact the hospital said she didn't have this virus.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 28 Mar 20 00:42
But she did according to the coroner,she was 21..
By:
akabula
When: 28 Mar 20 00:54
Shameful to use these unfortunate deaths to have a go at the Tories.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 28 Mar 20 00:55
And the hospital said she didn't. You don't know whether she did or not. Nor do I.

But I'm not the one ranting about cover-ups, taking the government to court and calling the hospital crazy. Why are you getting so upset at the possibility this poor girl might not have had the virus when she died?
By:
thegiggilo
When: 28 Mar 20 01:02
Why would you not be bothered,you don't want to know course of death in a pandemic,if they are just going to put deaths down as non virus why the coroner has done autopsy that should be questioned and done again..Not unless you jusy want to accep this everytime,similar to my family my son has asthma,my mum has terminal lung cancer i have ms if they tried to fob blame off on these conditions i would have them up in court simple as that..
By:
akabula
When: 28 Mar 20 01:08
The hospital said she didn't have the virus but you want the Tories taken to court. Doesn't make sense.
By:
lurka
When: 28 Mar 20 10:44
A 3 week lockdown is not going to fix anything, nor is it meant to. It is simply to stop your health service becoming overwhelmed and the death rate rocketing like in Lombardy.

People are still comparing the current death rate to flu. Flu doesn't spread like this as there is a vaccine and immunity amongst the population. Flu therefore does not have the capability to overwhelm a country's healthcare system like this virus does. When a country's healthcare system is overwhelmed the death rate rockets. The goal is to get the numbers down as much as possible and to avoid that happening for as much time as possible. If the virus ends up killing at the same rate as flu then that will be a massive result for any country, but the simpletons will say that it is no worse than flu and that a lockdown wasn't necessary.

It's quite simple - flu doesn't have the capability to overwhelm a health service. If it did the death numbers would be a lot higher every year. This virus clearly has the capability to overwhelm a health service. The goal is to avoid that and to keep the death rate at the level of flu, but that will only happen with huge restrictions on people. Not comparable to flu.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 28 Mar 20 10:49
This is not a party political issue akabula

Do you not understand that The Government of the day needs to be held to account and questioned?

The Government not The Tories!

The day of reckoning is a long way off.

The people advising us and enforcing us to practise social distancing did not follow their own advice and are now sick.

I have seen no politicians with latex gloves on or masks round their necks to demonstrate the level of protection needed when out shopping.

Medical staff do not have the proper protective equipment

I went shopping yesterday. Nobody had gloves on and only two or three wore a mask.

All this has nothing to do with the Tories but everything to do with The Government. Our leader has not thus far shown the best leadership qualities. Now many more people are dying and vunerable because he didn’t do what was required when it was required
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 28 Mar 20 11:03
Masks don't prevent you catching the virus. Masks simply help prevent you spreading it if you've already got it.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 28 Mar 20 11:03
At least not the masks joe public will wear anyway.
By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 11:04
You contract the virus through one of three entry points in your body.
Mouth, nose, or eyes.
By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 11:07
Here is a chart and associated table from the Imperial College report that led to the change in government strategy.
More to come.

By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 11:09
From the same report, a table describing the various measures that could be taken.

By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 11:13
Ok, the combined image didn't work so well.

By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 11:15
By:
Angoose
When: 28 Mar 20 11:19
Ok, let's start with the graph above.

The red line (a constant) represents the surge critical care bed capacity available within the NHS.

The other five lines show the likely demand that would be placed on critical care bed capacity as a result of the COVID-19 outbreak given a range of scenarios.

The black line is if no measures are taken to manage the outbreak and is the scary one that prompted action.
The other lines are "what if" estimates assuming the implementation of defined measures.
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