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By:
detraveller
When: 06 Jan 20 13:32
If you think you are defending your country fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan, you can't possibly be very smart? I understand that they don't sign up for that and they also can't refuse to serve there, but in the past 30 years they haven't been used at home, and we know they won't be. So not hard to fugure out stuff when signing up?
By:
detraveller
When: 06 Jan 20 13:33
The recent british army recruitment drive actually proves what i'm saying. They deliberately choose the stupid ones. So you cna't possibly deny that.
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Jan 20 13:35
There are no stupid young men or women in the British army . I do know that .
By:
detraveller
When: 06 Jan 20 13:36
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/367cee09f615d4677f78eba09f6528dfe9903bfb/0_0_2276_3500/master/2276.jpg?width=1920&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=3ff619baf24eef291abc8c90729a8fa9

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/6ee8cbd282e14ac2aeab644d74c7ad24ad7bd7f6/1205_65_1090_655/master/1090.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=9dd4e04820f6d9ca798b4692e8a1db29

Just two examples.

If you are calling snowflakes, addicts, gamers, selfie addicts to join the army, unless you are a magic wand that makes them smarter after signing up, you are indeed deliberately choosing the stupid ones for the boots.

You can't possible deny that.
By:
saddo
When: 06 Jan 20 13:41
detraveller, stop flapping about on that hook, ta.
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Jan 20 13:45
You see detraveller in Britain we are good ...at everything
I stood behind three or four young men in an listened in to them talking , about computers etc they were about 16 or so
Clever boys , just your average everyday British citizen
We are good at everything and we have a variety of different people in our army
Variety , scientific and creative it was always out great strength ,of our military  for many many years
It was why we ultimately were superior to Germany who had abilities also
But lacked that certain abstract thing. So no , there are no stupid people in the British army
We’re not like that .
By:
moisok
When: 06 Jan 20 13:46
when I look at any subject I wonder whose side are you on  and why you are there or why you are appearing and who put you there and where you came from etc

as with any tv show, newsprint, blog etc etc etc

what narrative/agenda are you flogging

one of mine is the book readers
By:
detraveller
When: 06 Jan 20 13:57
I know what you think of me moisok. I think differently because I have not only lived in the middle east but also worked at the border at a time when all you guys were doing was complain about the migrants everyday, oblivious of the fact that they were being deliberately let it. When I pointed that out, you called me a muslim apologist back then too. In those days you were busy quoting koran verses justifying why these people were coming in. Remember?

I am sorry that I also don't whine about them everyday like you. Apologies if that offends you.
By:
saddo
When: 06 Jan 20 14:09
But we didn't just complain while you blithely shepherded them into your own country detraveller. We voted to leave the EU so that they wouldn't all end up here once you gave them EU passports. We don't trust the people you let in.
By:
moisok
When: 06 Jan 20 14:11
Already you adopt the moral high ground yet again

this is the problem with so many of the so called intelligentsia, politicians and commentators.

you come the old 'I know better than you'    'so I am right'  approach etc etc

'I think differently coz I have lived there   and I worked there'  etc etc   'oh you know best' travelman

Well you have run up against someone who has ALSO worked in the middle east and Iran in particular. Colleagues of mine also work or have worked in several 'muslim'  nations,  so we know a lot about the place/s.  Dubai, Saudi, Bahrein etc etc included yawn!!   

I have lived in several muslim countries as well as the middle east so just go away with your high and mighty  'I know best coz I have lived there'   crap.   
As for Quran quotes - they do it all the time  for most it is drummed into them at an early age but they seem to have missed out with my 'muslim' girlfriend    ho ho ho
By:
moisok
When: 06 Jan 20 14:18
as we chat they are turning him into a 'god' on sky  - nice smiley man - probably smiling at the thought of how the luvvie western tv stations will present someone who got away with imprisoning or killing thousands of his OWN country's citizenship.
By:
detraveller
When: 06 Jan 20 14:40
I have never said I know more than you or others.
I have never said you are wrong in what you say, just that you waste your time complaining about them when its your own govt fecking you.
Just because I take a different view, you just accused me of being a book reader. That doesn't offend me. Luvvies, book reader, leftie, right, alt right, they are just labels for the sheep to throw around while the politicians laugh at them. You just do the same and I am not going to be dragged into a battle of labels.

For isntance, you just complained about Sky's coverage of a person who killed thousands of his own citizens. That to me is a distraction. People should be complaining about Boris and his party letting so many people in who stab people almost every day. The fact that you have the time to complain about a foreigner killing his own country's people, when your own govt is doing the same, is what I mean when I say you aren't wrong, but just whining about the wrong stuff. If that makes me a book reader, then I don't really know what to say Sad
By:
detraveller
When: 06 Jan 20 14:42
You've also been complaining about the coverage of his funeral since yesterday.

But you're also watching it since yesterday.

Seriously wtf?
By:
detraveller
When: 06 Jan 20 14:48
Have a nice day. See you in the evening.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 06 Jan 20 14:48
They keep reporting threats in the media, how about stop with the threats and carry one out?

The more threats that are made that aren't carried out the less impact they have down the line

Iran should blow the Americans fleet out the water and then declare war on them, see how Trump reacts to that
By:
cooperman
When: 06 Jan 20 15:00
$80 million bounty put on the orange clown's head by Iran. Shocked
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 06 Jan 20 15:09
I think they may just resist the opportunity SS.

Those in power will be well aware of the weaponry at the disposal of the big orange IF his handlers give him the masonic shake to carry on regardless. Unlike most who are still in denial of said technology Wink

#Itsalljustpunchandjudyreally with the exception that many will get slain within the game Cry 2020 nothing new to see hear. Move on.
By:
terry mccann
When: 06 Jan 20 16:52
Trumps turns truth on its head,claiming serial aggressor USA "seeks peace,harmony and friendship with all the nations of the world".
His remarks came as the US War machine continues mass slaughter and destruction in multiple theathers-risking war with nonbelligerent Iran at the same time.
By:
1st time poster
When: 06 Jan 20 17:44
sickening and disgusting that America agrees that iran have to have their moment in the sun and iran/usa.middle east basically  negotiating who has to suffer to placate irans right of reply,all  just a game to trump and co,
By:
dustybin
When: 06 Jan 20 17:52
Money worshiper trump made his whole life about disrupting and coin clipping greed.
Would just about be the icing on the cake if Iran just doubled down and became a nuclear power off the back of him throwing the agreement into jeopardy.

You dont see america throwing its weight around against nuclear armed nations.
By:
saddo
When: 06 Jan 20 17:57
Didn't they go into Pakistan to get Bin Laden? You may wish to see Iran with nuclear bombs, I doubt many would join you in that.
By:
dustybin
When: 06 Jan 20 18:01
I sem to recall the notified them before, but never the less Pakistan are an 'ally'.
America s hit itself when Russia entered the Syrian conflict and started killing american terrorists.
China equally wouldnt just smile back if trumps trade war turned to bombs.

Im not saying Id favour a nuclear armed Iran, but if it comes about it will be largely down to trump...he hasnt sorted N.Korea either for all his shower of s hit rhetoric
By:
11kv
When: 06 Jan 20 18:13
His daughter certainly knows how to address the nation....
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 06 Jan 20 18:13
No one is daft enough to try and bump Trump off and then claim the 80m Laugh
By:
detraveller
When: 06 Jan 20 19:09
One also has to wonder when Iran will come good on its threats. They had a general bombed to death which the Americans then proudly boasted to the rest of the world. If that isn't provocation enough, then I think they also need to calm down and stop threatening America and Israel every now and then. Maybe they just do it for votes I don't know. But if there was ever a time to go crazy, it is now.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 06 Jan 20 19:10
Didn't they go into Pakistan to get Bin Laden? You may wish to see Iran with nuclear bombs, I doubt many would join you in that.
saddo

The point is if countries want Nuclear Weapons surely that is their right. Is it right for countries who already possess Nuclear Weapons to forbid to other nations who have not??????

Of course it would make the world a more dangerous place....but there is a moral question here.

Plus If the US and West and stayed out of the Middle East since 1990...would Iran have even considered them??????

Iran know if they have Nuclear Weapons, we cannot invade Iran. But then they cannot use them themselves because they would be destroyed.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 06 Jan 20 19:12
We all need to calm down here, in my opinion.
By:
moisok
When: 06 Jan 20 19:13
I come on here with my moral high ground authority having worked with, lived with. made love to etc etc etc

and I KNOW best and I know what is going on - you plebs have no idea.
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Jan 20 19:18
Ebul , Some countries have the right to have nuclear arms , and some don’t ( although it would be best if no one did )
Iran don’t .
By:
moisok
When: 06 Jan 20 19:20
Israel will take out the nuclear facility before they made a workable device
or they would be wiped out
It is what the book says to do.
Until you know this you know nothing much
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Jan 20 19:21
Quite right , very good moisok
By:
moisok
When: 06 Jan 20 19:28
I have worked and lived in various islamic countries - the people tend to be very nice - especially when they get to know you and you accept some of their ways.

Unfortunately it is so sad how they fall under the influence of theocracy etc.

did you know that iran only has a population of 1.5 million who fall under the label of arabic

did you know the only PROPER way to read the  Quoran to understand its subtleties is in arabic  (you will be constantly told this by scholars and on islamic forums

Notice anything?   Same for the UK but even worse.
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Jan 20 19:34
At least 95% of the Koran is complete coobledegook , and makes no sense in any language
I know that
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 06 Jan 20 19:39
I am not sure lfc1971 being on your side Moisock, necessarily helps your causeLaughLaugh
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Jan 20 19:42
Part of the 5% that is understandable calls for the murder of Jews , Christians and unbelievers
By:
moisok
When: 06 Jan 20 20:04
There approach to charity/money is very interesting .  Problem.  Who gets this charity?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 06 Jan 20 20:42
At least 95% ofI know that the Koran is complete coobledegook , and makes no sense in any language
I know that


Why didn't you read the other 5% lfc? and what language did you read it in?
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 06 Jan 20 22:19
On the news mourned in Iran, but some did not.

He has had a few Iranians shot and also there was a slight economic cost supporting this man.

My own view as I keep telling everybody..Blush

I want no more killing in the Middle East, however this resolves itself. We have had far too much already in my opinion
By:
treetop
When: 06 Jan 20 23:28
a few Iranians shot ??? Just a few ???? The man ran the intelligence service,was in control of military strategy and subversive activity outside Iran, incited the shia revolt against the british in Basra, fed Hamas and Hezbollah ,etc ! The man was evil and deserved to go in 2007 when the SAS wanted to take him out (how many lives would that have saved) but USA vetoed it.
By:
terry mccann
When: 06 Jan 20 23:49
I would have thought the yanks have killed many millions more than him with their endless middle eastern wars,countries left in tatters and turmoil everywhere.
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