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What kind of lives did slaves have before they were snatched for the slave trade.
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There are absolutely no positives. Wrongs haven't been righted and never will.
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Physical prowess may not have been possible without the genetic mutations that the enslaved went through,I believe that it's possible that the increased testosterone in males from African DNA could be the factor as their ancestral diets are low in Igf1 which wouldn't help increase testosterone compared to our Western diet.
After age adjustment, free testosterone levels were significantly higher in black than in white men (WMD = 4.07 pg/mL, 95% CI 1.26, 6.88). Depending on the free testosterone concentration in white men, this WMD translates into a racial difference ranging from 2.5 to 4.9% https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.2047-2927.2014.00206.x |
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Many unsavoury do gooder types exploiting the vulnerable in foreign countries absolute human waste.
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How they lived before slavery is irrelevant. They lived their life.
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Slavery is always wrong. There are no exceptions. There is no defense of it.
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So 400 years from now will the descendants of holocaust survivors be rivalling the descendants of slaves in the medals tables?
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denzil will be starting another thread about that, please keep on topic
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The wrongs of slavery have been well established on this thread why you are continuing to push this only you will know,this is supposed top be all round debate there's far more to this subject than your supposition.
The subsequent development in the wider world of those with African lineage should be seen as a positive because without it it's possible that those of African lineage may never have got to where they are in the world now. That is why knowing how African life was in all it's positives a negatives is relevant as is the current state of African life 1/2 live in povery 2/5 are illiterate. Whereas in the wider world the numbers of those with African lineage suffering from poverty and illiteracy will look very different. Lots more relevant offshoots it's my opinion (as said already) is that more should be made of the good that's came after the suffering of the enslaved. Please READ THE THREAD I won't be kow towing any more to the racially sensitive who CHOOSE not to do so repeating the same shyte in a different way this is a subject with lots of depth and strands of debate. |
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Or the same ones in repeatedly in their aliases.
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What kind of lives did slaves have before they were snatched for the slave trade.
Has Africa got any further forward than it otherwise would have without the slave trade? Should those born of African descent start looking at the slave trade in a different way because without it there's every chance they'd be still living like Africans are now had their ancestors not been taken? This isn't selective memory. But ok I'll answer the questions. 'Further forward' is based on preconceived ideas so the questions is pointless. The second sentence about living like ancestors is what this is about. Hopefully they'd still be living like their ancestors. |
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'Further forward' is based on preconceived ideas so the questions is pointless
Not at all it's 2019 now the African slave trade is said to have started in the 15th century without knowing how they lived in all facets of live we can't determine progression in the way we we can in the Western world,from your point of view I take it you think Africa should've been left alone completely. |
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If so that would've ruled out potential future worldwide development taking a break this typing does the elbows no good.
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All countries should be left alone with some exceptions but that's not really the argument.
How are you measuring progression? |
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Did Africa ever have an epidemic to rival the black death in 14th c Europe?
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No it never really had the plague.
There was a tv program a couple years ago saying that africans are much more prone to HIV/Aids than Europeans as the virus is apparently similar and the Europeans who survived the plague (i.e. ancestors of modern native europeans) have been naturally selected to be a bit (though obviously not at all totally) more immune to it. |
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Thanks, that's interesting JC. Plague the clear winner then, I doubt that wiping out over a third of a continent by pathogenic means will ever be done again.
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Statistically that makes Africa the safer continent to live in around the middle of the 2nd millennium.
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Maybe different now, but I suspect that going back to that era their civil wars were somewhat less brutal than the wars of the roses for example.
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Mouse, read more on subject say here:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050325234239.htm https://www.nature.com/news/2005/050307/full/050307-15.html Ok it's 10% of the population are apparently resistant to it but that's still a fair whack and an interesting working example of how natural selection affects a population pool, 100s of years later. |
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So the mutation goes from 1 in 20,000 up to 1 in 10 as a function of the plague's 100% strike rate.
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When the British army was deployed to Sierra Leone in the 1990s the locals hoped it would become a colony again
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Hong Kong going down the pan ?
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See what’s happening in Brazil’s prisons ?
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So these are the facts , the British Empire brought civilisation to Africa
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Sure, but on topic it was the Portuguese who brought the slave trade.
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As I have explained earlier the slave trade had been ongoing long before and not only in Africa
It existed in Europe and it was the Black Death that helped to get rid of it in Europe |
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"All countries should be left alone with some exceptions"
Someone taking his post medieval civilisation intervention philosophy from the Star Fleet Prime Directive  .Kirk would be proud. |
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Britain colonised about 90% of the world’s countries and in the main it was a good thing
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Although of course Australia and Canada etc were almost uninhabited
It was good we went there to |
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We only went to India to buy tea
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And it was extremely good for India and the Indians that we went there too
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLjAmzyUf0E
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As regards Africa ( and indeed Asia ) there wasn’t one country that we didn’t leave in a better state than we found it in
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