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Will Boris apologise?
Will Boris apologise?
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Smell
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Tw@t
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Smell tw@t? Like dogs sniff each other erses?
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Postcode maybe it's on all the letterboxes.
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"So, tell me this: for what exactly is Boris Johnson supposed to apologise? For eloquently rejecting a ban on the burka which has already been adopted by France, Belgium, Denmark, Austria and Switzerland. Are they all Islamophobic too? Or might they have decided that a garment which has no theological basis in Islam is inimical to Western values of equality, respect and freedom and that defending those values is more important than p------ off “the community”? Those countries showed some balls and took a moral stand. So should Britain.
[...] It makes my blood boil. If pointing all this out, really rather politely, makes you Islamophobic, well, you can count me in. I’d rather be Team Boris than Team Naz. I’d rather stand up for innocent teenage girls than genuflect to misogynist men. Oh, and three extremely loud cheers for our blond bombshell columnist who has refused to apologise. Quite right, too. Why say sorry for writing what the majority of your fellow Britons believe? Don’t ban Boris. Ban the burka!" |
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Alison Pearson tomorrow's dt.
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"why do we obey to laws ,may as well f00k all the girls ,not work and do what we want ?"
like muzzy men you mean ?  |
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conditor is 100% right.
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.... back to the original question, 1.01 that Boris apologises again. They will do anything to save their careers.
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Boris is a tit, but on this subject he shouldn't apologise.
Trilby- You surprise me. You considered my disparaging comments the other week regarding people stood outside a mountain wafting fishing nets at the cave to be disrespectful based on somebody else's unsubstantiated belief....yet now criticism of a different unsubstantiated action is justifiable? To be clear, Boris is correct to be critical for a number of reasons. Firstly, we live in the information age, where people are identifiable by biometrics, data patterns or via visual clues like features. CCTV cameras are regularly used as evidence and provided in court daily. If we say (in this effectual secular nation) that because one set of people happen to believe something they can't justify, then they are free to go incognito while all others are not, then this is inequality itself. Teresa May has attempted to avoid the religious issue, by walking straight into a sexual one. She said 'women should be free to wear what they please'. Actually Teresa, thats sexist to suggest its a woman's right alone to disguise her identity. Unless she continues saying its also man's right to go everywhere unchallenged wearing a balaclava? The very notion that women wearing these full body identify retarders is not in itself coerced by males within their own communities is like saying women from those same places take delight in what pot luck will be forced upon them in their coming arranged marriage. |
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You say should non religious types not question things? Well actually its the other way around. It's the role of empiricism to build knowledge of us and our surroundings based on testing evidence based theories, and not, as is the case of religion, simply accepting other human's versions of things. Indeed, to further add, it is said in the bible that man shouldn't question, just accept.....and yet inquisitiveness is so fundamental of the species. There may, or may not be a form of creator, a design and/or will. You don't have to believe in religion to believe in creation. The philosophical point of view is that intelligence and the ability to ask 'why', is a collecting of entities working in harmony, each having its own overlapping 'intent' on survival that supports each other area. (You don't have any control of your internal organs yet you assume them to be you.....and the only 'control' you have of bacteria inside you is to stop it taking over, yet without it you'd be dead.) |
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One final point. What does religion actually tell you that philosophy does not with regard life lessons? What does, 'I am the way' actually mean? Its nothing of substance. Faith is like trying to catch farts in jars. |
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That’s because the labour racism should be in the papers ,
This shouldn’t |
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Are balaclavas banned?
Is it banned to have a hat and a scarf pulled up over your nose and mouth? Just wondering. See if it's important so CCTV can identify everyone as they go about their business (?) then don't these count too? |
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Does Boris know what he is doing ?
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Balaclavas are allowed if worn from time to time
If it snows that’s fine |
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So we suspend the necessity to identify people for reasons of safety if it's a bit nippy?
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Yes
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When they go into s building they should take it off
Your hat as well , it’s good manners |
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I don’t want to stand talking to someone in a balaclava unless it is snowing
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Ok, so burqas are fine if the temperature's below say 10 degrees?
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No , they can wear a balaclava
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Why is a balaclava ok, but a burqa not?
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Because it is only worn when it snows
If the burka was only worn when it snows that would be fine But it’s not , so it’s not fine |
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I don’t mind if they wear gloves either
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Dusty, my apologies for being rude to you that time but the two things you mention in your 7:01 are in no way related, imo.
The Thais are a respectful people doing something they have been doing for hundreds (thousands?) of years, peacefully in their own country, with their own kind, in their own way and is absolutely no business of ours what-so-ever. For us, as ignorant Westerners looking in from afar, to mock that is bang out of order, extremely disrespectful and highly offensive to them and those who know them. |
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Did I see somewhere some of these people go swimming in their burkas? Not only in the sea, that's fair enough - their choice, but in public swimming pools too … or is that just my imagination & fake news?
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Balaclavas are banned irrespective of weather in numerous places like banks, post offices or places of authority, town halls, council etc (as far as I recall).
trilby, as previously mentioned you don't need to apologise Im a big boy. Though I disagree that people can't be mocked simply because they are peaceful. The whole notion of pandering to whims is regressive and should be called out. When Hesiod said, 'Both god and man hate laziness' he was actually hitting on a fundamental truth imv; that humans will only thrive through progress. A resonance with nature you might call it. |
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Now if it’s a beautiful hot day and someone is wearing a balaclava I might say that’s strange
Perhaps he has just got off a motorbike , that’s fine it protects his face from the wind It’s ok to wear a burka on a motorbike as well Ok with that ? |
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Is a burkah waterproof? If it isn't they are a complete waste of time normally in this country.
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The whole notion of pandering to whims is regressive and should be called out.
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I think that’s neither here nor there
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* as to it being waterproof
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Do these burkas have air-con? It must get awfy warm (and smelly) inside on hot days, no?
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White burkas would make more sense in the summer, imo.
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If only it was such a sensible reason to wear a burka , it’s waterproof and keeps out the snow
Anyone could say well yes i see your point |
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I find them a bit satanic, tbh.
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Reckon you boys are far too worried about what other people are wearing.
Don't know if Grazia's got a message board but think you might be better suited there. |