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"any sane person" … exactly!

Someone asked would you want someone in a shop wearing a burqa. I would not, nor will I address anyone wearing one. We can still shop and speak to who we please.

saddo is right,
Its one thing accommodating other people's faith within reason, but this is extreme.
Where is their accommodation of those they live among and the rules of the land?

As I suggested earlier, it creates a logical impasse where those who don't wear such things actually have fewer libertarian rights as those who are allowed to hide their identity.
This is about kowtowing to subjugation of the female by those who interpret something and enforce it on others.

Its completely unnatural to communicate in person with somebody emulating a shadow.

Horrible woman on the radio , don’t know if she was wearing the burka

Ban it on the radio as well even though we can’t see it

I can't go Vine and I'm certainly not going to listen to a burka.  No PMQs today either

not going to listen to a burka - in MY country telling ME how it is.  Can I walk down the High Street in my Rocky Horror Picture Show outfit?

That's correct Crip.  I read somewhere this morning that a man is worth two women, according to their koran.

All religions, it matters not which one, would like to see anyone who mocks them or their customs, silenced and possibly punished. Maybe killed. It's only been 10 years in UK since we did away with blasphemy laws, and they still exist in Ireland. The church has less sway today, but rest assured that if their previous levels of power returned, they would, in a heartbeat, do their utmost to restore such laws.

Which is all rather odd, given that that each religion claims to know incontrovertible and eternal truths. You would think their followers would be a little more robust.

Anyone who conflates mockery of a religion with persecution is effectively campaigning for the religious. They've been duped and are effectively endorsing the position that this form of offense transcends other forms and is uniquely deserving of special protection which restricts freedom of speech.

I don't like Johnson, but there are no grounds to apologise. A more sensible move would be to use May's request as an opportunity to attack her position.

The burka is the perfect example of an issue that will never get solved, because it isn't in the interest of the politicians to solve it. It is one of those issues that will get people talking about it, no matter what other issues are currently happening in the country. Boris has got the people and the politicians talking. Why, as a politician, would you not like to have something like that in your armory?

I really don't understand why its so hard to ban the burka without mentioning the word itself. Terrorists attack happen so frequently now. Purely for security reasons, covering your face should be made illegal, no matter where you are, unless your asss is on a bike. Simple as that. Whether your face is covered by a piece of cloth, ugliness, too much hair etc etc should be irrelevant. But when I see people mention the burka, I know what they are doing. They are just wasting everyone's time.

Someone above mentioned how it oppresses women, how it stops them from integrating, how women are inferior to men. These are exactly the arguments that, despite being true, will never result in the burka ban. Because there will always be someone to counter them. Example, it is my choice what I wear, it doesn't make me oppressed, my body is only for my husband to see, its a free country so i wear what i want bla bla bla. A perfect issue to keep people busy.

As i said, purely for security reasons, face coverings should be illegal, too bad the burka falls under the category. But we all know its never happening because its the perfect bait for the public, as well as the politicians, like Boris just showed.

Can you understand why some people might be uncomfortable if they GP saw them with the full face covered and their eyes behind a veil? Do you think people have the right to say they would rather not be in that situation.


Of course. Some people are ignorant. Some can be judgmental or, hell, just downright racist. So yes, they might feel uncomfortable. But if I was the practice manager and someone said they were unhappy seeing Dr ? for that reason I'd simply tell him to do one and find a different practice. Let's not let stupid people dictate the rules eh.

Nothing to do with race PP. It is just feeling no connection communicating with an individual you cannot see.

Friend was telling about someone in their class at uni. Nice girl very outgoing. Next term someone reappeared wearing the full gear. Had got married and her husband wanted her to wear it. All the spark had gone.

you see it’s a bit much for people like detraveller and pineapple to say what about a balaclava ?

Well it’s very simple , it’s not a burka

It's a jolly fun idea.  As an LGBTQI er I could wear one and you wouldn't know what was going on underneath - a cracking invention.

I don't know what kind of connection you're after IT but as long as my doc assesses me and prescribes something to fix it then that's good enough for me. I don't have to stare at her lips while she's pronouncing Amoxycillin but y'know.

Then there's the talk of a "spark" with someone at uni. Maybe if you lads stopped trying to hit on everyone you see you might have more time to do stuff

its important to be able to see the person , imo

Less frightening if it is something stressful , maybe it’s part of the whole caring process

You are right of course moisok , that is all part of living in this free and beautiful country

Well ultimately it depends on the people within those countries , look around

I don't go near multi storey car parks