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Will Boris apologise?
Will Boris apologise?
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Boris certainly shouldn't apologise;it's about the one and only comment he's made that I agree with. One thing for certain ;if he'd written his comments on a betfair forum he'd have received a lengthy ban. Any mention of the burka , niqab or hijab and the mods go into meltdown.
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If it'd been a Labour politician writing about Jews wearing their caps and using a similar, disparaging remark I doubt so many on here would be saying good on him.
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Jews wearing their caps is not the same as an unknown entity hiding inside a swarth of black cloth.
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It's nothing to do with numbers lfc, it is just a sad fact that Islam has been appropriated by Qutbists in the last half-century, and thus what was once mostly a question of culture - the wearing of the niqab - has been purloined as a statement of defiance by Islamists.
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More hysteria from PorP. Predictable as rain in April.
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And then of course I look at Israel and think to myself
Do you know I could live in that free and democratic country You see there us s big difference between Iraq or Saudi and us Don’t forget that |
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I'll try not to.
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Of course it is, arron. Absolutely.
Testing the water of the vox pop in advance of a leadership challenge due to frustration at how crap the Braxit negotiations are going so far, possibly? One thing is 1.01, there will be plenty going on in the background right now and a major announcement this week - or early next - would not surprise me in the least. Bring it on, I say! |
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They must be banned as they stop women reaching their potential.
How can society know that a woman really is choosing to wear a one as opposed being pressed into wearing one by a man? Would you be happy being served in a shop by someone wearing one, would you employ someone wearing one, would you be happy if your doctor wore one? Is any of those answers are no then those are the restrictions facing one of the most unemployed groups in our society. Progressive Muslim women threw them off years ago. It is only inspired by the Taliban and very strict states like Saudi that have encouraged them back in. |
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They must be banned as they stop women reaching their potential.
What potential? Why is a woman's potential predicated on what she looks like? How is it stopping her? If she is denied a job because the recruiter doesn't feel comfortable, then it's his racism denying her not her choice of clothing. Why should she be forced to pander to another person's ignorance? How can society know that a woman really is choosing to wear a one as opposed being pressed into wearing one by a man? Why do you need to know what her motivations were for getting dressed in the morning? If you've any actual evidence a person is forced to do something against their will then, please, act on it. But if it's only based on assumptions maybe go back to your crossword. Would you be happy being served in a shop by someone wearing one, would you employ someone wearing one, would you be happy if your doctor wore one? Yes. Yes. Yes. Why the F**k not for crying out loud. Is any of those answers are no then those are the restrictions facing one of the most unemployed groups in our society. The restrictions are caused by your racism, fear and ignorance not by her choice of clothing Progressive Muslim women threw them off years ago. It is only inspired by the Taliban and very strict states like Saudi that have encouraged them back in. Good for them. Good to see women freely choosing what they want to wear and not be told what is and isn't acceptable by others. |
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Why is it good ?
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It's good because it annoys the Right. Do keep up lfc
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PP, you would not have a problem going to a GP and not being able to see her face?
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Ah , I see it’s beciming clear now
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Not at all IT.
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Why is it good pineapple ?
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Why is what good lfc?
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Why is it good to wear the hijab
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LORD SHEIKH !! Is now involved ....BBC asking for people to contact them ASAP with Pics etc ,this could run for months
 I think they are a Security Risk as Known terrorists can use them as a Disguise ,some wearers look like big Barrels could Quite easily be a man. There was a male terrorist some years back Caught on his way to heathrow wearing one ,Thankfully where I live now I very rarely see them I find people dressed from head to toe in Black intimidating TBHDo you have hundreds of them where you live Pine you seem to find the Outfit acceptable .. |
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And why is it good that it is legal in England to do so ?
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We know it is s good thing to have freedom of choice , we can all agree with that
However we don’t have the the freedom to break the law So why is it good that there should be the choice to wear the hijab That is the question , why ? |
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Because we live in a liberal society that includes freedom to wear what you like as long as it's not dangerous or manifestly offensive. To paraphrase - I'm not a fan of how you're dressing but I'll defend your right to choose to dress the way you please.
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Who decides what is manifestly offensive ?
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You cross the line into illiberalism when you start dictating what people can or can't wear lfc - the same illiberalism against which you are protesting when you ban the burqa to protect the rights of those wearing it.
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Imagine wearing one in this Hot weather must be so uncomfortable Like being inside an oven ,Must be doing a 50 a week on Deoderant ..
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You see to me , and I think others it is hard to conceive of anything more manifestly
offensive than the hijab Ok that’s just myself. But there may be many others |
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Piety is never comfortable casemoney. Hairshirts?
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restrictions are caused by your racism, ""fear""
The main reason they are worn is incase Men in their Community become sexually Aroused looking at them without them ,I find that Fearful TBH  Oppresion is a Birka |
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It’s a question of what sort of society do we want to live in , in England
This is England after all, I don’t think that the wearing of the hijab should be allowed in England Now you might say why not ? And I would say because of what it represents , I look around at the countries we’re it is worn |
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What a person is allowed to wear in any country is not entirely up to themselves
It depends others as well , it’s s very subtle balance Between individual freedoms , and the wishes of others The balance is wrong in England Just my opinion |
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tories-at-war-after-boris-johnsons-burka-rant-as-theresa-may-refuses-to-suspend-him/ar-BBLDlVl?ocid=spartandhp
The Tories were last night plunged into open warfare over Boris Johnson’s rant aimed at Muslim women. Theresa May yesterday backed an order for the former Foreign Secretary to say sorry for comparing women wearing burkas or niqabs to “bank robbers” and “letter boxes”. But no apology came from Mr Johnson and the dithering PM was branded weak after refusing to suspend him over his remarks. The row came as it was revealed Mr Johnson has been reported to police for the comments and could face a criminal probe. Tory party chairman Brandon Lewis said: “I have asked Boris Johnson to apologise.” After her initial silence on the matter, Mrs May finally said on a visit to Scotland: “We all have to be very careful about the language we use. “And some of the terms Boris used describing people’s appearance obviously have offended. So I agree with Brandon Lewis.” But Labour MP Naz Shah laid into the PM for not axing Mr Johnson over the fiasco. She said: “It speaks volumes about Theresa May’s weakness that she sat silent for over 24 hours on Boris Johnson’s Islamophobic comments and then refused to condemn them for what they are, promoting. “Clearly the Prime Minister is in denial. Asking he apologises is not enough. She needs to order an independent inquiry into Islamophobia in her party and take action against Boris Johnson for seemingly breaking the party Code of Conduct. "His comments weren’t accidental, they were a calculated attack.” Foreign Office minister Alistair Burt said of the remarks by his old boss: “I would never have made such a comment, I think there is a degree of offence in that.” Former Tory chair Baroness Warsi accused Mr Johnson of adopting “dog-whistle” tactics to attract support for a leadership bid. The peer added: “Muslim women should not be a useful political battleground for Old Etonians. It must stop. It must be condemned from the Prime Minister down." But a source close to Mr Johnson said: “It is ridiculous these views are being attacked. We must not fall into the trap of shutting down the debate on difficult issues.” Mr Johnson was reported to police by Sharmin Akther, who accused him of “spreading hate crime”. The Muslim Council of Britain said Mr Johnson’s comments in a newspaper column appeared to “pander to the far right”. It also asked if Tory MP Nadine Dorries would be spoken to by Mr Lewis after she said the remarks on burkas “did not go far enough”. She backs a ban on the garments. © REUTERS |
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Is it on balance a good thing that women are free to wear the hijab
No I don’t think so , but then again I don’t think it should be a problem in England in the first place It should never even have been a possibility |
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But a source close to Mr Johnson said: “It is ridiculous these views are being attacked. We must not fall into the trap of shutting down the debate on difficult issues.”
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Now you see they are trying to get the police involved , now freedom of speech is a very important part of British life
Wearing the hijab isn’t , or shouldn’t be Understand ? |
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Scotland too please. lfc - not just England. Wales & Norn also, I would imagine ...
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Of course trilby yes
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Mr Johnson has been reported to police for the comments and could face a criminal probe.
Do we know who reported him? Any wild guesses? |
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I don’t know it’s remarkable that anyone thinks it’s a good thing
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Thank you lfc
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