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By:
Reynard
When: 08 Aug 18 15:00
Yes , he should apologise !

He should apologise for not addressing the subject sooner . As Home Secretary he was in a powerful position within the government . Now , as a humble backbencher he is just another voice in the wilderness .
By:
Reynard
When: 08 Aug 18 15:03
InsiderTrader • August 8, 2018 1:40 PM BST
Even by labour voters 47 support a ban and 37 oppose it.

Does this imply that 16% of labour supporters actually wear one ?
By:
saddo
When: 08 Aug 18 15:21
PorcupineorPineapple    08 Aug 18 13:40 
Can you understand why some people might be uncomfortable if they GP saw them with the full face covered and their eyes behind a veil? Do you think people have the right to say they would rather not be in that situation.

Of course. Some people are ignorant. Some can be judgmental or, hell, just downright racist. So yes, they might feel uncomfortable.

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If I wear sandals they must be open toed, anything between the toes makes me feel uncomfortable. Racist could not apply here, but does this make me ignorant or judgemental? No, it just means they make me feel uncomfortable. You cannot make anyone like something. At best you can force them to tolerate it, until they've had enough.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 08 Aug 18 15:23
Heard most of the transcipt on this interview on BBC radio2 dinner time, actually nothing to apologise for, would have thought more of him if he'd actually said Ban The Burkha!
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 08 Aug 18 15:26
PorcupineorPineapple
08 Aug 18 14:00
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I don't know what kind of connection you're after IT but as long as my doc assesses me and prescribes something to fix it then that's good enough for me. I don't have to stare at her lips while she's pronouncing Amoxycillin but y'know.

Then there's the talk of a "spark" with someone at uni. Maybe if you lads stopped trying to hit on everyone you see you might have more time to do stuffSilly

^

It was a woman talking about a woman. Nothing to do with 'lads trying to hit on everyone'.

I would suggest you are in a massive minority not wanting to see the face of a doctor treating you or the man selling you a car. Would you be happy seeing a male doctor who wore a Donald Trump mask while treating you if he said he worshiped Trump as his religion?
By:
alun2005
When: 08 Aug 18 15:31
This woman agrees with Boris Johnson on the subject of the niqab.   

Is this woman guilty of “racism” then, or of showing “fear” and “ignorance” for rejecting the niqab?

All of those words incidentally already used in this thread to describe those who don’t like to see women in Britain wearing them. 


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https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/as-a-muslim-woman-id-like-to-thank-boris-johnson-for-calling-out-the-niqab/

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45096519
By:
saddo
When: 08 Aug 18 16:03
It's all relative. Anyone less virtuous than porcypine must be a bigot or a racist, apparently.
By:
jed.davison
When: 08 Aug 18 16:06
Apparently Dominic Grieve will leave the Tory Party if Johnson becomes leader. What a loss to the country that would be.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 08 Aug 18 16:20
A lot of remainers like Lewis, May and Grieve using this as way of attacking Boris because of his views on Brexit.

Notice the lack of pro-Brexit MPs being upset about what he said.
By:
Injera
When: 08 Aug 18 16:40
Various issues with the way they dress.

One main one for me is that domestic violence is sadly prelevant in all cultures. With Muslim women covered from head to toe, how can any friend,neighbour, or stranger ever see their demeanour or worse, bruises?

I doubt if there are any domestic abuse stats within the Muslim community. With misogyny central to Islam, the complete head covering is a licence for abusers to continue. Sad

I notice the snowflakes are more offended by Bojo's words than the appalling discrimination shown to women within Islam across the Muslim world.
By:
saddo
When: 08 Aug 18 16:44
They support Islam and feminism, no conflict in morals there, not at all.
By:
mafeking
When: 08 Aug 18 16:47
indeed jed if the tory members had a vote between johnson and grieve i doubt even landslide would adequately describe the result
By:
posy
When: 08 Aug 18 17:37
Well done Boris for bringing this out in the open and giving us the go ahead to discuss the issue without immediately being labeled a racist.When I've visited parts of this country i've had to remind myself i'm not dreaming that i've been transported back in time to some sh it country in the 14th century.This sort of outfit shouldn't be allowed full stop.
By:
dustybin
When: 08 Aug 18 18:48
You have to laugh
On the news they brought out a couple of hijab wearers to tell us boris was wrong.
I noticed that even though only their eyes were visible...they were made up with make up.
Poor f ookers don't know up from down they can't seemingly even get their own logic in order.
Why would a woman fight to wear a veil, and at the same time artificially beautify their only exposed part?
By:
annie.
When: 08 Aug 18 21:15
What has he got to apologise for?

He ridiculed her appearance, not her religion or race.  It is called free speech, remember what that is?

I loathe 'high fashion' and think people, mainly women - including Theresa May, who follow it and spend thousands on it cannot be very intelligent. When I see the models on the catwalk, my main thought is 'you cannot be serious', apologies to McEnroe.  They look ridiculous, so does this mean I cannot call them that?
By:
casemoney
When: 08 Aug 18 21:42
What About ABBOT will she not wear One in support , would do us all a favour Grin
By:
Platini
When: 08 Aug 18 22:36
NAILS IT

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/boris-johnson-and-the-liberal-criticism-of-islam/
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 08 Aug 18 23:51
Doesn't need to apologise but i think clarifying his personal opinion vs governement policy wouldnt go amiss.

Governments have no business in how people dress.
Boris' fashion preferences = whatever
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 00:10
If governments have no business in how people dress how do they have any business in letting millions of people into the country without asking the people of that country ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 00:11
You see if the people if the country do not want people coming into the country and dressing like that
What business have the government to disagree with them ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 00:16
You see people might have been reasonably accepting of allowing immigration ,
Under certain circumstances , such as how people would dress if they were in England
And wearing the hijab might have been grounds not to allow this sort of immigration

Ever consider that ?
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 09 Aug 18 07:22
Controlling immigration and controlling clothes arent really the same though
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 07:31
Not they are not , which do you think is more important to people in Britain
Whether they can wear a burka , or immigration ?
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 09 Aug 18 07:41
Immigration maybe?
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 07:45
ok , if the government can decide to let people into Britain who might wear a burka , without asking the people of the country do they agree

Then they can decide that anyone who comes to Britain must realise that the government has decided that to wear the burka in England is illegal

Ok with that ?
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 09 Aug 18 07:48
Not really no. I said governments have no business in how people dress
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 07:52
And I have explained why not in this case
Do they have no business  in allowing immigration then as well

You have just agreed that immigration is more important
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 07:54
You see without. immigration the situation would never have arisen
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 07:56
No immigration , no burka
Problem solved , imo
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 07:59
We are not saying that people can’t wear the burka , just don’t come to Britain if you want to
It’s illegal
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 08:00
If they want to come to Britain that’s a little test to see were their priorities are
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 08:02
If they say no we prefer to wear the burka and so we will not come to Britain that’s fine if course that is their right
We will not be in the least offfended
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 08:05
But to come into another country and insist on wearing it  , when the people of that country are against it ( if they are. )
Well that’s just rude and very very arrogant
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 08:10
Then you might say that’s too bad , and the people of the country even though they don’t like it must be more tolerant and accept this being imposed upon them

By the government
By:
trilby22
When: 09 Aug 18 08:14
I'll have half-a-pint of whatever lfc is on Grin
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 08:18
I had a glass of beer last night trilby

Why do people indulge in it : )
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 09 Aug 18 08:20
That 7.59 is genius franklyLaugh
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 08:23
Yes thanks pineapple , I have all sorts of interesting and beautiful ideas like that
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 08:29
No law , or little social custom is not without its merit
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Aug 18 08:33
Everything , and everyone in Britain is subject to beautiful rigorous laws
Thank goodness
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