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Yes , he should apologise !
He should apologise for not addressing the subject sooner . As Home Secretary he was in a powerful position within the government . Now , as a humble backbencher he is just another voice in the wilderness . |
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InsiderTrader • August 8, 2018 1:40 PM BST
Even by labour voters 47 support a ban and 37 oppose it. Does this imply that 16% of labour supporters actually wear one ? |
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PorcupineorPineapple 08 Aug 18 13:40
Can you understand why some people might be uncomfortable if they GP saw them with the full face covered and their eyes behind a veil? Do you think people have the right to say they would rather not be in that situation. Of course. Some people are ignorant. Some can be judgmental or, hell, just downright racist. So yes, they might feel uncomfortable. ........... If I wear sandals they must be open toed, anything between the toes makes me feel uncomfortable. Racist could not apply here, but does this make me ignorant or judgemental? No, it just means they make me feel uncomfortable. You cannot make anyone like something. At best you can force them to tolerate it, until they've had enough. |
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Heard most of the transcipt on this interview on BBC radio2 dinner time, actually nothing to apologise for, would have thought more of him if he'd actually said Ban The Burkha!
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PorcupineorPineapple
08 Aug 18 14:00 Joined: 03 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 5,731 | Blogger: PorcupineorPineapple's blog I don't know what kind of connection you're after IT but as long as my doc assesses me and prescribes something to fix it then that's good enough for me. I don't have to stare at her lips while she's pronouncing Amoxycillin but y'know. Then there's the talk of a "spark" with someone at uni. Maybe if you lads stopped trying to hit on everyone you see you might have more time to do stuffSilly ^ It was a woman talking about a woman. Nothing to do with 'lads trying to hit on everyone'. I would suggest you are in a massive minority not wanting to see the face of a doctor treating you or the man selling you a car. Would you be happy seeing a male doctor who wore a Donald Trump mask while treating you if he said he worshiped Trump as his religion? |
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This woman agrees with Boris Johnson on the subject of the niqab.
Is this woman guilty of “racism” then, or of showing “fear” and “ignorance” for rejecting the niqab? All of those words incidentally already used in this thread to describe those who don’t like to see women in Britain wearing them. . https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/as-a-muslim-woman-id-like-to-thank-boris-johnson-for-calling-out-the-niqab/ . https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45096519 |
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It's all relative. Anyone less virtuous than porcypine must be a bigot or a racist, apparently.
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Apparently Dominic Grieve will leave the Tory Party if Johnson becomes leader. What a loss to the country that would be.
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A lot of remainers like Lewis, May and Grieve using this as way of attacking Boris because of his views on Brexit.
Notice the lack of pro-Brexit MPs being upset about what he said. |
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Various issues with the way they dress.
One main one for me is that domestic violence is sadly prelevant in all cultures. With Muslim women covered from head to toe, how can any friend,neighbour, or stranger ever see their demeanour or worse, bruises? I doubt if there are any domestic abuse stats within the Muslim community. With misogyny central to Islam, the complete head covering is a licence for abusers to continue. ![]() I notice the snowflakes are more offended by Bojo's words than the appalling discrimination shown to women within Islam across the Muslim world. |
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They support Islam and feminism, no conflict in morals there, not at all.
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indeed jed if the tory members had a vote between johnson and grieve i doubt even landslide would adequately describe the result
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Well done Boris for bringing this out in the open and giving us the go ahead to discuss the issue without immediately being labeled a racist.When I've visited parts of this country i've had to remind myself i'm not dreaming that i've been transported back in time to some sh it country in the 14th century.This sort of outfit shouldn't be allowed full stop.
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You have to laugh
On the news they brought out a couple of hijab wearers to tell us boris was wrong. I noticed that even though only their eyes were visible...they were made up with make up. Poor f ookers don't know up from down they can't seemingly even get their own logic in order. Why would a woman fight to wear a veil, and at the same time artificially beautify their only exposed part? |
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What has he got to apologise for?
He ridiculed her appearance, not her religion or race. It is called free speech, remember what that is? I loathe 'high fashion' and think people, mainly women - including Theresa May, who follow it and spend thousands on it cannot be very intelligent. When I see the models on the catwalk, my main thought is 'you cannot be serious', apologies to McEnroe. They look ridiculous, so does this mean I cannot call them that? |
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What About ABBOT will she not wear One in support , would do us all a favour
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NAILS IT
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/boris-johnson-and-the-liberal-criticism-of-islam/ |
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Doesn't need to apologise but i think clarifying his personal opinion vs governement policy wouldnt go amiss.
Governments have no business in how people dress. Boris' fashion preferences = whatever |
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If governments have no business in how people dress how do they have any business in letting millions of people into the country without asking the people of that country ?
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You see if the people if the country do not want people coming into the country and dressing like that
What business have the government to disagree with them ? |
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You see people might have been reasonably accepting of allowing immigration ,
Under certain circumstances , such as how people would dress if they were in England And wearing the hijab might have been grounds not to allow this sort of immigration Ever consider that ? |
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Controlling immigration and controlling clothes arent really the same though
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Not they are not , which do you think is more important to people in Britain
Whether they can wear a burka , or immigration ? |
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Immigration maybe?
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ok , if the government can decide to let people into Britain who might wear a burka , without asking the people of the country do they agree
Then they can decide that anyone who comes to Britain must realise that the government has decided that to wear the burka in England is illegal Ok with that ? |
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Not really no. I said governments have no business in how people dress
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And I have explained why not in this case
Do they have no business in allowing immigration then as well You have just agreed that immigration is more important |
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You see without. immigration the situation would never have arisen
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No immigration , no burka
Problem solved , imo |
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We are not saying that people can’t wear the burka , just don’t come to Britain if you want to
It’s illegal |
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If they want to come to Britain that’s a little test to see were their priorities are
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If they say no we prefer to wear the burka and so we will not come to Britain that’s fine if course that is their right
We will not be in the least offfended |
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But to come into another country and insist on wearing it , when the people of that country are against it ( if they are. )
Well that’s just rude and very very arrogant |
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Then you might say that’s too bad , and the people of the country even though they don’t like it must be more tolerant and accept this being imposed upon them
By the government |
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I'll have half-a-pint of whatever lfc is on
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I had a glass of beer last night trilby
Why do people indulge in it : ) |
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That 7.59 is genius frankly
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Yes thanks pineapple , I have all sorts of interesting and beautiful ideas like that
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No law , or little social custom is not without its merit
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Everything , and everyone in Britain is subject to beautiful rigorous laws
Thank goodness |