No, we are not needed equally.

If there were  world war three tomorrow and the planet was in ruins, I cannot see women building it up again.

Men and women are equal but they do not have the same skills.

Of course they are equal. Goes without saying.
That's complete ignorance to suggest women couldn't build the world up again.
Fwiw there's a growing amount of females joing the construction industry.

We are needed equally. If anythng and you wanted to keep going down the pedantic route, women are needed more than men.
With artificial insemination, mens roles are getting less as we progress all the time. You can freeze sperm but not sure you can freeze
women, yet.

a dress - thankyou

jamesdean - you're surely on the wind up!

To quote McEnroe you cannot etc..

Of those who die at work 97% are men.
Who builds the houses, the roads, the bridges, the factories the schools the hospitals the lot???

Who lays your carpet, does your tree surgery, catches your fish, drills your oil, pipes your gas, does your leccy, your plumbing your wood, your plastering, your car, drives the lorry to deliver your cous cous to your Waitrose?

This equality garbage is bollox. Men and women differ in strengths, weaknesses, to coin a phrase we're diverse and that IS OUR STRENGTH!!!

Shirley there are machines for hauling them nets full of cod across the deck in a force 10 injera? And women could always use smaller spades and shovels to do digging jobs. It would take longer, and therefore cost the customer more, but what can you do.

annie.
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jamesdean, you do talk a lot of rubbish.  I have just looked up the stats for the building industry and 99% of people on a building site are men.

In america only 1.3% of the workforce in building construction are women.

I suggest it is complete ignorance on your part to not acknowledge the fact that men and women should have equal opportunities in life, but you cannot get away from the fact that men and women have different aptitudes for different kinds of work.


Now come on, annie.  If youre going to suggest I talk nonsense at least back it up with the truth and not lies.

Just because only 1% on building sites are women doesn't mean it's still a growing number now does it?
I'll explain it for you just in case...Where as 20 years ago there may have been 1/250 women to men on a building site it's now
1/100 and growing.

For your 2nd lie. Please re post where I have said anything but that men and women should have equal opportunities.
I think it's pretty clear to anyone reading this thread I've been a supporter of equal oppertunities from the getgo and have
agreed we play different roles. My point being that both are just as important ala highliting the nurses and care workers on the womens side etc

It's easy to say people are talking nonsense, backing it up with turths is a little harder...

plenty of women engineers,team leaders,project managers on big projects now,but whether your working for them or see them on docu,s on tv,instead of showing why women might be better at some of these rolls than men,they seem to go into macho mode balling,shouting ,effing and blinding,just aping their male counterparts,cant really see the point in that if people think women can bring other attributes to the rolls,there was talk of the crash not happening if more women were on boards,running companies etc

Annies 1% of women in construction industry looking like utter bull over here in the UK.


Women to make up a quarter of the UK construction workforce by 2020
The rate at which women are embarking on careers in construction is at an all-time high with four times as many entering the industry now as they did five years ago.
They are expected to make up a quarter of all workers in UK construction by 2020 and will play an important part in counteracting the emerging skills gap.
More than a million extra workers are needed by 2020 to keep up with UK growth and build the necessary 300,000 new homes a year. Women are expected to account for a significant portion of that, many of them in senior roles. 82% in construction agree there is already a serious skills shortage and 72% say there is a mismatch between the availability of work and the capacity to keep up so there is plenty of opportunity for improving the gender imbalance.
Women could soon make up 50% of this new workforce and, with the majority of construction
firms now actively working to hire women, this could equate to an 80% female recruitment rate. In 2005, an overwhelming 79% of women reported their companies were doing nothing special to attract female workers. In 2015, this figure had dropped to 29% indicating a significant, positive change in workplace culture.

The industry has taken on board the gender disparity and, whilst the perception of a pay gap still exists with 41% of women believing men are paid more than them, attitudes have changed for the better.  More than three-quarters of men believe they are paid equally and 42% of workers believe there will come a time when men and women are paid the same.
Women are still reporting discrimination purely because of their gender, showing there is ongoing work to be done in eradicating sexism. However, the number of women leaving the industry because of such discrimination is just 11% and an
overwhelming 94% believe they have got where they are through their own hard work, ability and expertise rather than any gender bias or female-only quotas.
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Women are expected to make up a quarter (26%) of the UK’s construction workforce by 2020

Significant progress made in encouraging women into construction over the last decade with the majority of women saying their employer actively encourages female recruitment
Companies must harness the power and skills of women to avoid a skills crisis within the construction industry
Pay packets rise 6% per year between 2005 and 2015 for women in the construction industry
However, perceptions surrounding equal pay still persist among women, with 41% believing they earn less than men
Proportion of female employees entering the construction industry in the UK
Source: Randstad 2015 Women in Construction Report
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Women filling more senior construction roles
The number of women in senior roles has leapt from 6% in 2005 to 16% and one in fourteen of those in senior management positions or directorships now earns more than £75,000. Another 2% earn over £100,000 a year.
Just 3% of women now occupy traditionally “female” roles such as secretarial or support, compared to 9% in 2005 with more women entering the profession in roles such as surveyors or construction managers.
However, despite the construction industry offering competitive pay, prospects and career advancement, awareness of these benefits is not as high as it could be. According to the 2016 Randstad Awards, a
large-scale survey of more than 7,500 UK adults into employer and industry attractiveness, construction doesn’t rate highly as a tempting profession to enter. No major construction firms ranked in the top 20 most attractive companies for either gender. For the numbers of women to increase, this corporate image therefore needs to change.
A third of workers believe more could be done to encourage women into those senior posts and an average of 34% feel a “glass ceiling” still stops many women from rising to the top. Overall, 77% of construction workers feel not enough is being done to address the skills gap and less than one in ten is actually undergoing
any formal on-the-job training. However, a third of workers felt women had as good a chance as men of getting a pay rise or promotion.
Outside of senior management, the position is more mixed. Female architects, who once accounted for 19% of all women in construction in 2005, now number just 10%. This is partly explained by the growth of female professionals in other sectors.
A similar position is seen with female quantity surveyors, down from 13% to 12%, despite high demand for the job.
Various campaigns are slowly helping to change awareness. Construction Youth launched its ‘Not Just for Boys’ campaign in September 2015, targeting young
people and focusing specifically on the misconception that construction careers are only for men.
The Construction Industry Training Board (CITB), whose board members are now predominantly female, is also working closely with the industry and educational establishments to change its problematic image and improve recruitment.
And UCATT, the UK’s only trade union specialising in construction, has been running a ‘Women Get Women’ recruitment campaign aimed at dramatically increasing its female construction worker members by its 2016 National Delegates Conference.

The times are a changing but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good story..

do not under any circumstances go down to no10 and shout 'SHOE SALE'  you will be flattened by the rush for the door ho ho

sorry men are more suited to the difficult and technical subjects such as science and engineering and technology because they are more intelligent, they are also stupider too.
there is a reason that it is always someone like Bill Gates and Steve Wazniak who do something revolutionary in science and technology and engineering and other fields

there are more intelligent men than women, and there are more stupid men than women

3:23pm post ^

I am not particularly intelligent,i am not particularly stupid
I have at times thought that I might be a girl, but of course im not a real girl

you see steve wazniak and bill gates, had a certain natural ability, thousands indeed millions of others have had the same possibilities, men and women

so its nothing to do with gender ?

great men don great things, when they are young
almost always before the age of 30, to attract women

but you and i are men?

Donny I have explained, there are more stupid men than stupid women

ok

jamesdean    31 Jan 18 15:01 
There's definitely a growing number on the tools and in the top jobs and rightly so.
Good luck to them




You never visit any sites then? I do, lots, and have yet to see a female builder on a building site in Yorks, sales staff only ime. There may be some but not even 1%. I used to see a small minority of women doing light joinery work at exhibition centres in Germany. I never saw any doing tools work at Earls Court or Excel, though I haven't been for 5 years or so