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Dreadful Fire in London tower block!
Dreadful Fire in London tower block!
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Hi, RR, I cant be bothered reading that, because the only common denominator is steel, like saying cars are all the same, It does not say anything about the type of construction, The TT were the Tubular, The tube system concept is based on the idea that a building can be designed to resist lateral loads by designing it as a hollow cantilever perpendicular to the ground. This method was in it's infancy back then.
Your article does not give the construction specifications of the other buildings, only that they were steel framed, were they, Shear frames, Interacting systems, Partial tubular, or Full tubular, and if so which of the 5 tubular systems were they. Only a like for like comparison has any validity, IMVHO. I'm off to another fred this one is doing my head in. |
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Apparently the review promised after the inquest into the Lakanal House blaze eight years ago, had not been published,
from the guardian. |
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^^^ i've seen an interview with the fire expert used in a report into that fire, he said the authorities ignored his recommendations.
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moisok, you've dragged me back!! always interested in what you say, I think you've hit the nail on the head, these enquiries cost millions take up to 7 years, by which time everyone has long moved on and the impetus to implement the recommendations is long gone. They have the appearance of a hybrid Quango, a nice jolly for the faithful!. Even the good guys, (Levenson comes to mind) get pushed aside.
I wonder what Baroness, Ann Elizabeth Oldfield Butler-Slos GBE, PC, is up to these days.  |
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that is wicked of you foxy - it is the naughty step for you - I have pressed my platinum member's gold button this time(butler schloss forsooth!!!!)
goodbye nothing personal |
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it's all coming out now - councillor who was regarded as a trouble maker - ignored -
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jolly the Melbourne docks fire was attributed in great part to the ACM rain screen overclad system used in Our disaster. Here's just one of the many quotes after that, “This product is so flammable, it’s like a firecracker or like a flare. “It basically explodes and the heat is enormous.”
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containing the fire is the big one - how on earth they could have done that with so much going against those brave firefighters - so many things wrong here. From safety equipment ie ladders not long enough to interior safety equipment not provided, missing or broken
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moisok 'whisltle blowers' in the main, lose their livelihoods, future employment prospects drop to zero, their marriages break up and they loses their houses etc, and the ungrateful public that they tried to protect forget them, ever seen a 'crowdfunding for a whistle blower' ??? I'm off for tea, laterrzzzz
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spot on
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sadly i have to agree about most enquiries i'm afraid, it's all lessons learned, etc, etc .... until the next time.
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It's all quiet about how the fire actually started.....and how it got outside of the flat where it started?
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The firefighters had zero chance, the system is fatally exposed by things like this
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opposition parties love whistleblowers then we its their turn in power they hate them.
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so if there is another fire next month what will happen?
for once jon snow on ch4 is right why not emergency legislation NOW |
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Hot night, windows open. Easy for fire to go outside, then catch the cladding and come back in thru other open windows.
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fk me I do not believe it - lily allen no less - giving a damn good account of herself
'why are they trying to downplay the amount of deaths' quote and lots more |
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the brass neck of that bint going on about the MSM covering things up
f*****g unbelievable |
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she is spot on
and about the tory property owners never thought i would defend her this will all be followed by a massive kicking of the can down the road they have already been doing it for 8 years we simply cannot have the great unwashed complaining can we the local councillor was ignored and was labelled as a trouble maker when she raised issues about her constituents |
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Residents could not get legal aid ffs
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This how Spiv Culture works
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are you aware of how close she was treading ......
tory conflict of interest!!!! |
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Any evidence how the fire started?
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Here in west London we can hear the clang of cans being kicked down the road
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no evidence
one guy said his neighbour told him his fridge had blown up that's it |
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As I said earlier the causes are usually bottom line/corruption driven not political. But the cover ups are 100% political!!.
mosok I lived in West London for 50 years. |
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so modernization of old tower blocks actually means making them look a bit better but turning them into fire hazards. you couldnt make this sh1t up.
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some are saying they are searching for missing children etc and are being obstructed by authorities
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The political vitriol is spreading as fast as the fire. What a sad country the UK has become.
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Think about who passes legislation - who makes our laws.
You can start there. |
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Reason should be Realeased very Soon, they Know where it started so Should not Take Long Hard to believe a Fridge exploding could cause such a Fire ,Cladding or no Cladding
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Why hasn't it collapsed?
A fireman pal reckons the heat could have been 1000 degrees C, enough to melt some metals. He says the concrete has protected the steel girders, hence it's still up. Twin Towers must have been hotter then.. |
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its just like a game of football, you,ve got to get the oppopsition red/yellow cards, before you get them
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moisok, the Feudal system' is alive and well just wearing modern clothes, mind you we still have the bewigged aholes.
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Injer the TT had a new tubular construction, Grenfell looks to have a tried and tested Shear construction.
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Are the media purposely trying to wind up "the community"?
They keep on about the people's anger .... Is this normal after a tragedy? Avoidable, I know. But this could turn very nasty, very quickly |
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then look at who owns property
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would anyone be interested in keeping costs down???
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There was only one staircase. It's basic fire safety to enclose the staircase in concrete. I wonder if this was done?
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