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did jesus of the new testament exist??

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By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 22:35
thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven

time is ending matey - the grace covenant is ending this year.

no more grace period.
By:
dustybin
When: 23 Jan 17 22:36
Blimey
You really earning your copy and paste badge this week
Does it all get brought up at the meetings?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 22:37
wikipedia not a bible site - yet?
By:
dustybin
When: 23 Jan 17 22:37
I'm gunna bed so it's gunna rattle around in your singular head from here
Nighty
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 22:39
wiki says you need to check the pipes in your house for lead?

says Jesus is real. real historic mon.

jesus has a special mallet for nuts that don't believe in him.
By:
dustybin
When: 23 Jan 17 22:41
Somebody needs to tell him it's a spanner you need for nuts
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 22:41
wikipedia -

Amy-Jill Levine has summarized the situation by stating that "there is a consensus of sorts on the basic outline of Jesus' life" in that most scholars agree that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, and over a period of one to three years debated Jewish authorities on the subject of God, gathered followers, and was crucified by Roman prefect Pontius Pilate who officiated 26–36 AD.[81] There is much in dispute as to his previous life, childhood, family and place of residence, of which the canonical gospels are almost completely silent.[82][83][84]

Scholars attribute varying levels of certainty to other episodes. Some assume that there are eight elements about Jesus and his followers that can be viewed as historical facts, namely:[13][85]

    Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.
    He called disciples.
    He had a controversy at the Temple.
    Jesus was crucified by the Romans near Jerusalem.[13][85]
    Jesus was a Galilean.
    His activities were confined to Galilee and Judea.
    After his death his disciples continued.
    Some of his disciples were persecuted.[13][85]
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 22:49
oh dear - you have picked the wrong horse and it pooped on your head.

All the oxford and cambridge scholars from Jesus College, Oxford and Christ College , Cambridge. are mobilizing as we type....

they have their bed sheets and are coming for you - they'll wrap you up and sink you in the Thames. They'll sing you a song as you sink to the bottom.

yah - he was a flat earther. proper oink.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 22:53
When you attend a funeral,
It is sad to think that sooner or
Later those you love will do the same for you.
And you may have thought it tragic,
Not to mention other adjec-
Tives, to think of all the weeping they will do.
But don't you worry.
No more ashes, no more sackcloth.
And an armband made of black cloth
Will some day never more adorn a sleeve.
For if the bomb that drops on you
Gets your friends and neighbors too,
There'll be nobody left behind to grieve.
And we will all go together when we go.
What a comforting fact that is to know.
Universal bereavement,
An inspiring achievement,
Yes, we all will go together when we go.
We will all go together when we go.
All suffuse with an incandescent glow.
No one will have the endurance
To collect on his insurance,
Lloyd's of london will be loaded when they go.
Oh we will all fry together when we fry.
We'll be french fried potatoes by and by.
There will be no more misery
When the world is our rotisserie,
Yes, we will all fry together when we fry.
Down by the old maelstrom,
There'll be a storm before the calm.
And we will all bake together when we bake.
There'll be nobody present at the wake.
With complete participation
In that grand incineration,
Nearly three billion hunks of well-done steak.
Oh we will all char together when we char.
And let there be no moaning of the bar.
Just sing out a te deum
When you see that I.c.b.m.,
And the party will be "come as you are."
Oh we will all burn together when we burn.
There'll be no need to stand and wait your turn.
When it's time for the fallout
And saint peter calls us all out,
We'll just drop our agendas and adjourn.
You will all go directly to your respective valhallas.
Go directly, do not pass go, do not collect two hundred dolla's.
And we will all go together when we go.
Ev'ry hottenhot and ev'ry eskimo.
When the air becomes uranious,
And we will all go simultaneous.
Yes we all will go together
When we all go together,
Yes we all will go together when we go.
By:
dustybin
When: 23 Jan 17 22:54
I've seen the types of person who writes all this.
Let em come with their bedsheets, I'll scare the bejeesus out of em
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 22:56
wrap you up mr flat earther.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 22:57
ladybird

jesus was real - wikipedia says so.
By:
dustybin
When: 23 Jan 17 22:57
If they come to my place, it's my game we play.
By:
dustybin
When: 23 Jan 17 22:58
And let me tell you, for all those that have been sitting around going soft comfort reading I've been turning nasty and orrible and they will find what weird **** happens in the mind of those others
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 23:00
The historical evidence for Jesus himself is extraordinarily good. …. From time to time people try to suggest that Jesus of Nazareth never existed, but virtually all historians of whatever background now agree that he did

NT Wright, Oxford & St Andrews Universities, in the Guardian
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 23:02
you sound like that Irish politician that shouted into the megaphones

ian paisley...... and let me tell you....
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 23:06
Jesus on a cross suffering and he looks forward to ingrates that don't accept his sacrifice.
making snarky comments.About a sublime act.
By:
dustybin
When: 23 Jan 17 23:08
Genesis said it - Jesus he knows me and he knows I'm right.

Now behave with your threats using the unknown as a weapon
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 23:11
The historical evidence for Jesus himself is extraordinarily good. …. From time to time people try to suggest that Jesus of Nazareth never existed, but virtually all historians of whatever background now agree that he did

NT Wright, Oxford & St Andrews Universities, in the Guardian


so good it's worth repeating
By:
dustybin
When: 23 Jan 17 23:12
My gran used to do that
Turned out to be dementia
By:
dustybin
When: 23 Jan 17 23:13
I'm bored of you now zorro you loon
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 23:14
it's not the unknown - it's in a large book called the bible - the book has sold billions of copies.

it's the very well known.

only dilberts pick it up and read it like an arithmetic book.

thou shalt not kill is not a commandment.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 23:16
thank you Dustybin, you just gave me a promotion.
By:
alleged22
When: 23 Jan 17 23:20
the bible is the greatest story ever told
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 23:27
it's not a story?

that's Holy Wood BS.

novels began in the 11th century in Japan. in the 17th century in Europe.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 23:29
The historical evidence for Jesus himself is extraordinarily good. …. From time to time people try to suggest that Jesus of Nazareth never existed, but virtually all historians of whatever background now agree that he did

NT Wright, Oxford & St Andrews Universities, in the Guardian
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jan 17 23:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q_FDL6_rl4

professor Dawkins admits Jesus existed. Historically.
By:
ieff7
When: 24 Jan 17 00:14
Jesus was never mentioned in any writing during the time of his "life". His "life" was a complete literary fabrication made by the Flavian emperors.

There was though a real JC in those days - with deity status: Julius Caesar

The Jesus story is actually based on Julius Caesar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvga-98x6Nk&t=2055s

see also
"Caesar's Messiah" by Joseph Atwill.
https://www.youtube.com/user/caesarsmessiah
By:
lfc1971
When: 24 Jan 17 00:40
^ don't think we need to pay any attention to that nonsense.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 24 Jan 17 06:26
The historical evidence for Jesus himself is extraordinarily good. …. From time to time people try to suggest that Jesus of Nazareth never existed, but virtually all historians of whatever background now agree that he did

NT Wright, Oxford & St Andrews Universities, in the Guardian
By:
Foinavon
When: 24 Jan 17 10:36
Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?
N.T. Wright, former Bishop of Durham
By:
dustybin
When: 24 Jan 17 11:55
I shouldnt have called zorro a loon, its something I said Id not do.
But the logic of the bizarre actions made not a whole lot of sense, since to post a link of Dawkins in a 'debate' acknowledging the likelihood of a person named Jesus as part of the prosecution based on the argument posed that he was the messiah is ludicrous.
Firstly that clip was an edited version that doesnt include the response from Dawkins to the narrative which the religious would want you to believe.
Secondly the consensus has largely been on this thread that there could well have been a man named Jesus whos existence is open to interpretation, but more importantly...
Thirdly, to use Dawkins as evidence as though him declaring the fact there was such a man as vindication of the theme posed that therefore he was the son of god is akin to doing a deal with the devil as he denounces such a likelihood.
By:
dustybin
When: 24 Jan 17 11:57
'Messiah', he could obv have been anointed, so perhaps that should have read 'Christ'
By:
Foinavon
When: 24 Jan 17 12:08
Most religious people are not loons in everyday life. It alarms me that people still hold such extreme views in the 21st century, conversing with them on religious grounds seems to take us back a millennium at least.
When I was young I felt that religion would all but die out in my lifetime but I was wrong. We could blame governments, education, brexit etc but perhaps the real issue is the human psyche.
By:
Foinavon
When: 24 Jan 17 12:24
Throughout time, humanity has striven to extricate itself from the food chain in which it evolved. Religion is a mental construct which gives the illusion of such an escape. It has other uses too so not hard to see why it survives.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 24 Jan 17 12:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q_FDL6_rl4

professor Dawkins admits Jesus existed. Historically.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 24 Jan 17 12:34
"So in one sense I think I’m not alone in feeling that to show the ill-informed and illogical nature of the current wave of “mythicist” proponents is a bit like having to demonstrate that the earth isn’t flat, or that the sun doesn’t revolve around the earth, or that the moon-landings weren’t done on a movie lot."

Larry Hurtado, Emeritus Professor, Edinburgh University
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 24 Jan 17 12:39
You all just crossed the Rubicon - Yeez are bams that deny history, you are running so hard away from God that you'll accept any lie any hiding hole from reality.

President Kennedy didn't exist. Henry the eighth, It was all the matrix?
the most recent BS is true.... we're in a computer generated existence.
That's the cul de sac you are going down.

Jesus was a real man - historians have the proofs.
By:
dustybin
When: 24 Jan 17 12:47
Yes, he had a real business, he made stuff out of wood until somebody pinned him to a piece.
That bit most would concur with.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 24 Jan 17 12:55
you couldn't deny your grandfather existed. But wait 1000 years and it gets a lot harder to prove he ever lived.

Jesus is mentioned by Roman historians. He changed the world so quickly that in 300 years the Romans who destroyed Israel in 70AD became the extension of the Jewish beliefs. Constantine the Great moved Rome to Turkey - next door to Israel.

what a bunch of ingrates and morons. They'd prefer to be slaves and vassals rather than free men to think up the BS that's evident here. All Hail Rome.
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