Sadly we are always controlled one way or another.

We just choose our controller, that is if we are given any choice of course?

I believe fully in choice.

Who doesn't believe in free choice?

Whether you get it... that's another matter.

Surley lmfao has had enough time to get back to be about the not so
great prophet muhammeds crimes dont't you think BG?

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad

Not much like Jesus was he tbh

great deal

Only one billion £, Mungo?

What is money worth to you?

Jesus cost nothing - yet a great much.

the real problems of the world are caused largely by the Western Nations being taken by satan.

Even the Mussies will agree with that!

What's more ... sh!t fan spread is outgoing and approaching all areas now ..................

Satan????

Satan doesn't exist, just like Jesus and Muhammad don't exist

Im sticking to my original thoughts - Trumps gets in, then im
f in off to the U S of A to live

I live in Vietnam, btw

trilby22 30 May 16 22:41 Joined: 21 Aug 10 | Topic/replies: 10,013 | Blogger: trilby22's blog
There's no capital S in satan, bigH.

Spelled with a capital S in the bible - so the bible must be wrong then?

the big bang THEORY ? Meaning it's a theory which a lot of physicists dispute - it no longer fits? It basically was a band aid to cover the gap of what they don't know. 1950-2014 - it was nice it made us look smart.

Einstein once said - We still do not know one-thousandth of one percent of what nature has revealed to us.

Edison - We don't know a millionth of one percent about anything.

Good timing, zorro.

Believe me people, call on the Lord with your heart and He will answer.

Everyone steals in commerce and industry. I've stolen a lot, myself. But I know how to steal! They don't know how to steal!

quoted by Tesla

An honest Scientist.

good luck finding proof in your life time. I found faith in mine. And it's at the 100 percent level. Not less than one percent.

9 days

Ron-Russian
Ron-Russian 30 May 16 22:08 Joined: 18 Dec 10 | Topic/replies: 7,064 | Blogger: Ron-Russian's blog
Surley lmfao has had enough time to get back to be about the not so
great prophet muhammeds crimes dont't you think BG?

Right then- research takes a while :)

M was a merchant known for his honest dealings who , in his 30's , became disenchanted with his 'modern life' and the corruption around him - and the worship of 'false gods' - who increasingy left the city to wander the desert and to think and reflect upon life; when his revelations came to him he was petrified and afraid- reportedly shaking uncontrolably -so something happened which shook him to the core , alone in the desert-- bit like jesus ?

I was expecting to learn about a bloody barsteward living in barbaric times - whilst the latter is true through our eyes - from what i've read/ absorbed recently - the former is most certainly not.

Just for the record: I am not pro-Islam - I denounce all terrorist acts and I think the world might well be a better place without any religion.

The best analysis I have found is from the BBC - a series of 3 documentaries available on youtube - heres the first link- part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVGieY0W6lY


Re his murdering people: recommend you focus on the documentary part 2 and about the killing of upto 700 jews:

Context : at the time the penalty for stealing a loaf of bread was death;

M was now leader of his tribe; he had twice told the jewish tribe which attacked his to decease- the 2nd time he banished them -after the third attack when they had not left  M, - even then- did not order executions-incredibly he walked away saying that they must be judged and if found guilty punished -  the Jews themselves appointed  an independent arbiter to judge them according to law- and the arbiter ordered the executions.

Do some reading - watch the videos

The claim is that M said his revelations directed holy war was just and right 'to protect yourself' and that it was not until a century after his death that this was perverted by disgrunted minorities within Islam


Read / watch about Mecca containing Jews/Christians and Muslims living in one community in M's home town during his lifetime / reign as leader.- and about the subsequent 'Golden Age ' when the same happened in Spain following the Moors invasion in 711 ad


I'll have a look at the killings listed of individual 'poets' etc

Again- I've o axe to grind here; I'm white english atheist and was never taught anything about this in school and am worried about rampant immigration

cheers for now

I think that the one profound difference between Jesus the man and M is that M became a tribal leader - with that came the responsibility to protect his people weighed down by the burden of politics and the laws of his time ; J did not and was free to preach whatever he liked - tho there were consequences !

Another difference is that M's life is documented to a much greater degree than J's


some even claim J cannot be proved to have existed- but i guess that's another discussion....

that's already what i was thinking!

cheers e

currently I truely don't think M was anything other than a good guy - but as ever its what some others have made of him / his revelations/teachings which have perverted what he may have stood for

also
Its difficult to understand the minds of those living in different times / cultures - from what little i've grasped from numerous trips around europe - sometimes with historians and /or archeologists - the  medieval mindset was so very different to ours;

years back i was in Senegal : met a traumatised UN aid worker resting from work in Mali - he threatened to retract all food aid from an area unless a General in the civil war withdrew his order to an old man to carry his rice .

I let the guy get whatever was causing him obvious stress time to chill / have a glass or 2 and go for a swim- but i could not understand him at all- why was he so stressed and why would he react so badly  to a civilian being slightly bossed by a general?


2 days later i found out that the general was a 14 year old gun happy executioner who pointed hi rife at the aid worker , the old man was indeed frail , the rice was a big sack and the journey was a 2 days walk across a scortching desert.

I vowed not to judge without trying to understand first- if possible.