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How vile is Nigel Farage and his party?
How vile is Nigel Farage and his party?
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That depends how far north you are. It was pretty cold up here today.
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quite far north in uk terms, but still not cold enough for gloves.
also very little terror on the go, which was nice |
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I think there's a lot of people who are indeed quite terrified of the perceptio of the post election possibility of the Scottish tail wagging the English dog northanlite. The Scots tend to be more to the left of the English in general and a lot of English people don't want socialism let in through the back door. They will also be deeply disturbed about Salmond's boasts about writing Labour's budgets.
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but we were told we should stay in the union and use our influence accordingly.
now it seems that influence is unjust and frightening to the rest of the uk. A confusing message, ridiculous & the reason the SNP support has sustained. |
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I noted John Swinney making that point on QT. It's clearly part of the SNP strategy and it's a good line but I don't recall it being an issue in the way their are playing it. The Scottish people were asked to stay to play their part in the union. I'd imagine that is still how most people feel in England but there were a lot of divisive comments made during and post campaign by SNP supporters who didn't have the good grace just to accept the democratic will of the majority in Scotland.
This campaign has a bit of a whiff of the independence campaign. The SNP seemed to be running away with that one at one stage as well but I think the strong arm tactics of some of their supporters led to a feeling amongst some of those who did want the union to remain intact that they should keep their powder dry. It is just possible that the SNP won't do as well as the popular perception suggests. |
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Anyway I'm away to my bed. Good night and here's hoping Cotter gets the Scots firing in a few months time.
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And before I go apologies to orioles. My comment was meant as a humorous retort to his comments but I appreciate not everybody finds such humour funny.
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Good evening gents. This has been an interesting thread, although the recent personalisations have diverted it somewhat, leopards and spots eh orioles ???. If it can be brought back on track as has been attempted by Eeternaloptimist then so much the better.
just to clarify, a bout of Atrial fibrillation has woken me from a sound sleep, it will take 2 hours for the medication to settle it down, so this is not a an alcohol fuelled post.  |
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i suspect the SNP will do about as well as the polls suggest because they have been so constant.I guess if a lot of tactical voting goes on that may change a bit.
i think that while there were divisive comments made on both sides during the referendum it was the scare tactics & blatant lies of the union side that have helped the SNP. Nobody is buying it anymore. The SNP have picked up plenty no voters since September |
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northanlite, I find it really interesting but not surprising that the last minute scrambling around by Westminster to hold the union together has awoken the politically erudite Scots to their new found place in British politics, long may it last.
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our idiotic voting system blows up in the face of lazy politicians who assumed it was a 2 party system.
democracy in action and hallelujah for that. i hate ukip ideas but they have helped shake it up too. |
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I like Ukip for that very reason, they don't have a cats chance in hell of getting more than 3-5 seats, but have punched way above their weight and actually shaken up and distracted the dopey 2 who totally underestimated the depth of feeling in Scotland.
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the other thing to note will be that while the SNP only get around 48% ish of the votes cast they may well get around 90% of the seats in Scotland & the old firm of british politics will call foul.
the irony is that most who voted that way support PR. it's a very fascinating election for once. |
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I believe (and hope) you have it spot on. The important thing is the next term and how wisely the new "power" is used from all perspectives. Fascinating, and gloriously refreshing indeed.
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the snp won't have any power but if they get the projected 45-50 mp's they will have some clout.
i think people forget they won a majority in a PR system in Scotland which most observers thought impossible. don't underestimate them but also don't fear them. they are not a loony fringe party. although their ultimate aim is obvious they are not the one issue party the westminster parties would have you believe. |
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It's early days but this election could be a watershed in British politics, particularly in respect to PR in the next 10 years.
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another thing often forgotten is where the initial snp support came from in the 1970's.
it was a mixture but much of it was from a lot of disaffected conservative voters. the labour didn't fall it was the tory vote that crashed and many went SNP. now it's that labour vote that is being chased so they appear very left wing but a strong anti union conservative element exists at the heart of the SNP. |
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I hope more, rather than less of us realise that. Never the less the next 5 years will be an education unparalleled in recent political history. Can't wait !!.
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I'm up come on who's first I'm voting ukip or s n p
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 very good. |
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Well I do live in Kent
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 fair play to you |
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Cheers I'm not a key board warrior
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Cheers I'm not a key board warrior
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Just schizophrenic
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Brilliant
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I thank you seriously just bipolar having a great time at the moment just waiting for the black cloud. Few months yet I hope signed off sick until June 14th
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I am voting UKIP and believe all the smearing and intimidation from the vermin in Westminster is causing a lot more to vote UKIP rather than the reverse.
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Er....I don't think so
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I am a socialist but i have had enough of being lied to by all partys,new labour sold the working man down the river,the torys have always done so,the snp will tax the working man down the river to keep their giro wallah supporters on their side,the greens are mental the lib dems are coonts,
I am voting ukip just to give them all a kick up the arse and i dont care if they eat babies practice black magic rituals or are in incestuous relationships with their sisters i have had enough of all the lying,fraudulent,obfuscating,****s time for change. |
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I understand your frustration, if not your reasoning!
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Miliband 's Labour Party is not Blair's New Labour. Hth
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Oh, and if you're going to vote UKIP, sorry, but you're not a socialist . Hth too.
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How do you know that Facts? Before 97 people said that Blair would be more socialistic in office and that he was merely seeking not to scare the horses. When Brown was taking over the same cry went out. Time will till what Milliband would do but to make assumptions as this stage risks disappointment for you. Socialism is dead in this country.
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And you're the expert are you ?
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To be fair your expertise appears opaque and im being generous in my critique.
Sheeple like yourself can and will be conned but eventually the penny will drop and you will realise tort labour two cheeks of the same arse. You want the facts ,you cant handle the facts dgfith. Labour party so out of touch it puts uber blairite jim murphy in charge of the most anti blairite part of the country and wonders why snp are doing well. |
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I didn't claim to be the expert on the subject facts. I'm giving a view based on what dopes like you said previously. Of course this time it could all be very different but you were the one making bold statements about the future.
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