Name and shame the hypocrite

The company makes filters for the medical industry and they're eye-wateringly expensive, even though they are quite cheap to produce.  A few weeks ago a £600,000 order accidently got opened in a 'contaminated' area and had to be binned.  Nobody got hauled over the coals for the mistake, hardly batted an eyelid really.  They just packed up a new lot and off they went!

I don't recall that coming up at all in the interview Facts. Can you point me to where Davies pressed Farage on the issue and also where he said, "mark my words there will be millions coming over in a couple of years"?

doh - you're

I presume you've retired hurt? Might there be a chance of you returning to bat if the likes of Facts can keep you in the game for a while orioles? I know I'm being cruel. It's like asking Glenn McGrath to go out and score a ton for you but needs must.

Brasso tonight.

Enough of this flirting. Have you found any actual evidence yet for your assertion or are you out of the game?

You did but as I pointed out it was in no way relevant to your earlier contention. I presumed you had more to offer.

Well, EO, if my quotes were so irrelevant, why seek to answer them?

My post showed exactly where Farage and ukip sit and supports my contention and was thus precisely relevant.

When you seek to roll back laws protecting people from discrimination, it hardly places those groups in an exalted position! Similarly protestations that 'we all know what they're like' is unlikely to discourage resentment. Farage and ukip both encourage and feed off this scaremongering and hatred - to pretend otherwise is asinine.

Your revelation that Farage would rather we accepted immigration from former colonies (itself preposterously racist - 'we've at least tamed them by colonising them') rather than Christian Europeans (again, delivered without a shred of irony) is scuppered somewhat by Farage's suggestion that if we must accept refugees from the med, let's only accept Christians, placing other religions beyond the pale.

Farage was once asked directly about demonising sections of society and could only bleat 'I'm demonising the political class'. He at least grasps the concept, if not its breadth, although I doubt he cares.

What chimp with a machine gun would?

Someone on here someone of some standing said “allow dangerous ideas to become the currency of everyday discourse.” Would this include mass immigration?
Anybody with the slightest intelligence, knew that this was always going to lead to trouble.
The annoying thing is it was all totally avoidable, thanks to this mistake we now have huge problems here today, and the prospect of a future similar to that of Northern Ireland at the height of the troubles.

NF is stating that if the message from Italy and Greece is that anyone making the crossing will be accepted then figures will soar.
What's wrong with that? Common sense tells you that will happen.

akabula     24 Apr 15 13:47 
NF is stating that if the message from Italy and Greece is that anyone making the crossing will be accepted then figures will soar.
What's wrong with that? Common sense tells you that will happen




But not millions ( I.e 3000 a day )

I suspect that at law school students learn a clever ploy which is this:

If you can't explicitly validate a damning assertion with one piece of evidence, validate a different and feebler assertion with lots of pieces of evidence.

I think that was for you orioles.

And of course I would agree because I was quite clear why you had failed to validate your assertion.

When you seek to roll back laws protecting people from discrimination, it hardly places those groups in an exalted position! Similarly protestations that 'we all know what they're like' is unlikely to discourage resentment. Farage and ukip both encourage and feed off this scaremongering and hatred - to pretend otherwise is asinine.

Of course repeal doesn't put those groups in an exalted position. The law on discrimination already does that.

We can argue the pros and cons of such legislation and I'm sure you won't be surprised to know I sit in the Powell camp that it is for people to choose who, how and why they will discriminate against if that is what they wish and it is for other citizens to judge them on this how they see fit. I would judge them negatively for the record. If the populace at large thinks a business operates racist policies then they can withdraw their support and if enough of them feel so strongly about the issue the business will fold. That's capitalism.

I note you once again make another assertion about Farage without evidence. That is what is asinine given your previous.

Your revelation that Farage would rather we accepted immigration from former colonies (itself preposterously racist - 'we've at least tamed them by colonising them') rather than Christian Europeans (again, delivered without a shred of irony) is scuppered somewhat by Farage's suggestion that if we must accept refugees from the med, let's only accept Christians, placing other religions beyond the pale.

You're becoming hysterical. I very much doubt anybody else would have arrived at that bizarre conclusion about the commonwealth and with good reason. It's extraordinarily weak and frankly barmy.

By the way he didn't seek to put other religions beyond the pale. He was quite explicit about the torrid time that Christians are having in much of Africa. They aren't wanted in vast swathes and are being murdered en masse in some places. If you need any further evidence of their plight even in the most desperate of situations when these people find themselves on a ship with other people in a desperate situation they get tossed overboard because they are Christian.

Now that is what I call fuccked up.

Kind of you to say so and you put me in something of a dilemma. Truth or kindness? I'll go with kindness. You were once less evasive.

Allow me to bring you back to your statement. After all they are your words:

Whenever a political party decides that it will clearly indentify and demonise a section of the population on the basis of race, creed or colour, the only outcome can be tragedy.

Following that you did make your little speech but I think Bongo covered that more than adequately. I'm not asking for the earth but big statements like that really do need compelling evidence. I was fair to you. Some people will see things as you do. Perhaps most. Perhaps it has been a collective good thing. I don't know about that but it is perfectly clear that citing a desire to repeal discrimination legislation is no evidence for your assertion. You are trying to build a skyscraper with playing cards in a hurricane.

Where is your actual evidence that he has demonised people on the basis of race, creed or colour?

If the best of your argument remains this fanciful notion that he prefers the commonwealth because they are in essence a bunch of Uncle Tom's then we need say no more about it but you've clearly slipped a long way whilst on your sabbatical. Surely you have more to offer? I'm beginning to see why your luvvie lot find formulating an actual argument worthy of the name so difficult.

Why thank you sir. I'm an easy guy to please really. The problem I have is with all the snide comments and yet a complete inability to back them up. Fair play to orioles. He didn't do it very well but at least he had a go. The rest? I shiit em. There's a list as long as a giraffe's dicck of people taking pot shots who freeze when you put them on the spot.

That would depend on your definition of made it orioles. The way I see life is that I define whether it has been a success or failure. I don't worry about whether other people think I could or should have done this or that and being totally honest I'm happy how it turned out. I never aspired to a house by Lake Geneva, the big car, fancy house or any of the other status affectations. I had two goals in life and I've achieved them. That's good enough for me.

Having sex with your wife and mother.

Aren't you the Gallagher Dildo wannabe who was giving it out late the other night as well? So what's your story? Do you need a bit of dutch courage before posting and have to raid the drinks cabinet when your parents retire for the night? I'm being kind of course when I say parent(s).

farage used the phrase  "Scottish terror" yesterday.
now i realise the SNP may not be to your liking but seeing as they have been a party of governance in Scotland for some time i would suggest "terror" is a tad unreasonable.

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