Chit Chat
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
These 330 comments are related to the topic:
How vile is Nigel Farage and his party?
How vile is Nigel Farage and his party?
sort by:
Show
per page
Replies: 330
|
By:
What a tw@t you are. Totally clueless. Another bar room red faced puffing Billy.
|
|
By:
By your logic any government of the day should be ruled by the need to inflate house prices and should take the plaudits for doing so.
No, eo, only the Tories. House-prices are the first appeal to their voters. Don't you know that? |
|
By:
So totally clueless that despite you returning many times like a moth to the flame you find yourself without a single argument to put forward regarding the question and are unable to take me on in any aspect of this debate. I like that kind of clueless but come on man I'm good but I'm not invincible. Even Ali wasn't invincible. Sure I may have found my dope to rope but you may just blossom into Neon Leon for that one night when I'm off my game if you just find your stones.
Go on sucker. Shock the world. |
|
By:
We're not sure of the trajectory of your bile, eo.
|
|
By:
Well yes united to an extent I agree with you though this has been a coalition but I find the policies pursued risible but then I have two things you don't. Truthfullness without favour and I also remember recent political history. I remember this exact same policy being pursued by Labour. I remember the party of social housing building no social houses. I remember the party of the working class flooding the country with cheap labour pricing decent working people out of the jobs market in an attempt to and I quote directly, "rub the right's nose in it". I remember Labour starting this policy of turning welfare recipients into modern day lepers. I also remember Gormless stoking a boom prior to the election in 2005 to drag Labour over the line.
So please no lectures and a greater sense of history is required. |
|
By:
You do remind me of my old friend Reagan when you`re on one
 |
|
By:
Really united. You surprise me. I've got you down for gullible and a bit dim but not totally stupid. I think the direction of my bile is perfectly signposted and is going over the heads of the right people.
|
|
By:
Why thank you sir. I can think of no greater compliment and tonight I'm in the smiting business and cousin it's a booming.
 |
|
By:
I must confess I've brought a couple of friends for company. Mr Guinness and Mr Elijah Craig.
|
|
By:
You can obfuscate all you wish through Parties appropriating each other's thunder but the basics never change: Conservatism cements the advantage of the propertied class. There's no way round that, eo. You certainly need to delve a little deeper into polical history.
|
|
By:
Here we disagree. The Conservatives are not and haven't been the party of the propertied for well over a century. They are the ultimate chameleon party able to turn on a pin as and when the need arises fully capable of embracing something they denounced as heresy all but a short time ago? Why? Perfectly simple. They see themselves an the natural party of government and will do whatever it takes to make the electoral numbers stack up as often as possible. Where they see political advantage and irrespective of their supposed principles they will seek to work it to their favour.
They have no natural constituency which they aren't prepared to fucck over if the need arises. They are ruthless in their pursuit of power for its own ends. |
|
By:
Is that it facts? Seriously? Does you honour and reputation mean nothing to you? I called you out with good reason you preening buffoon and whilst you may be shouting from that top deck you refuse to get down into the bear pit where the blood and snot are flying. What manner of man are you? Seriously? I would cross the road to avoid the scent of rose petals which you are strewing everywhere from that fair trade recycled basket. I don't think I've ever seen a bigger drip frequent these forums.
Do they call you the strap on kid in your neighbour hood? |
|
By:
Larry dont offer him the oliver reed /alan bates showdown, it will all end in tears or puddles of ky jelly.
|
|
By:
Was that the one involving naked wrestling? If not married, it's a tough one but I think I'd plump for a member of the fairer sex given the option. Of course if it was Glenda Jackson I'd take both Ollie and Alan on a mano a whatever the plural of mano is.
|
|
By:
Ahh EO, "Women In Love" another great teenage memory of staying up late to watch this dodgy film I'd been tipped off about. Fair play, those lasses were sleep-prevemters, if not quite Hand Shandy Hall of Fame material.
For that, see Jane Fonda in 'Klute'. |
|
By:
When the young couple drowned in the lake they did it to an instrumental rendition of the West Ham football tune 'Bubbles'.
|
|
By:
Micky Jackson blew bubbles
|
|
By:
That probably worked both ways.
|
|
By:
Eeternaloptimist 18 Apr 15 23:21
Is that it facts? Seriously? Does you honour and reputation mean nothing to you? Both here and on the Horse racing forum you will find many examples of where i elucidate my political views. Look at the threads relating to Thursdays debate/ bias audience/Farage/ Miliband etc My views are very clear, I dismiss Farage as an unworthy politician and man.i despise the Tories. What this government has done to our society over the last five years is shameful. Look at my posts. I have been very honest and open in my views.and no, I don't suffer fools gladly ! I'm proud to be a Socialist. I was born in the Fifities and my parents were working class people from Lancashire, both heavily involved in politics and the community. My father who started life as an apprentice painter and decorator , became a trade union organiser/.executive of UCATT. My mother was a local councillor. The Labour Party is in my blood. Sure like all parties errors and mistakes and individuals have marred and muddied the waters. But true socialist ideals , a better life for all of society , not just some, is what I feel very passionate about. I believe Ed Milliband has that same genuine passion. He's a very intelligent guy. I want him to lead the next Government of this country. Hope this, and by reading other posts, you realise what my ' honour and reputation ' is. |
|
By:
EO we had a title to win yesterday so belatedly replying.
Much of my GE opinion is based on a betting perspective so is a little more detached than the opinion of the "rabid" on here, whether they be of the lefty type or the UKIP kind. Since the campaign started in earnest I've become increasingly wary of a possible collapse in the UKIP vote which would completely change the landscape that currently prevails. From that perspective I've been completely unimpressed with Farage. Given that there hasn't been the surge behind UKIP many predicted, it seems I'm not the only one. Going back to the original question, during the debates most of his answers have pointed to immigration as being the issue. That's applied to the NHS, housing and welfare amongst others. It's enabled the likes of Sturgeon and Wood to point score as a result. Quite frankly, it's lowest common denominator politics that seeks to play on people's prejudices. It hasn't been a secret over the past couple of years that this is what he seeks to do but in an election campaign the electorate want to see more depth than that. Unsurprisingly, lowest common denominator politics tends to appeal to a large number on this forum though. With regards to the EU, I don't think anybody disputes that this country can govern itself. That is different to whether it would be better to remain in or get out of the EU though. From a personal point of view, given that I don't share the parochialism many on here do, I think it would be a mistake to get out of it. Not really concerned whether you found my response feeble to be honest. I've mentioned this to you before but I find it quite amusing that you often criticise people on here for things you routinely do yourself. Maybe you should take this as a case in point. |
|
By:
I am sceptical of the idea that UKIP vote may collapse as almost everyone I speak to,in a strong Labour area, has sympathy with the UKIP message and believe that mass immigration is an issue that isn't being addressed. The media are presenting one side of the debate but the people at large are not getting their concerns addressed. I genuinely believe that the UKIP vote will turn out to be higher than the polls suggest,as happened during the Euro election.
|
|
By:
I don't agree.
It's a sweeping generalisation to say the "people at large" aren't getting their concerns addressed. Fact is the EU isn't a big election issue for many people. I think there's a growing realisation for potential UKIP voters that the party isn't going to win more than 3 or 4 seats at best. With the prospect of a Labour government and SNP influence behind it, the conditions are there for UKIP voters to look to prevent that as a main aim. That remains the great unknown. The SNP vote is going to hold up but not so sure the UKIP vote will. |
|
By:
Agreed
|
|
By:
If in the last election the conservatives did not get any Scottish mps (1?) and still were able to form a givernment with the libdems why does it matter if the Scots vote SNP or Labour ?
|
|
By:
I think those " working class parents from Lancashire " would vote UKIP if they were around now.
Labour is the party of immigrants and middle class Londoners,they would despise the Lancashire working class. Nigel Farage despite not being working class is the only one who stands up for that forgotten group. Labour and the Conservatives have discriminated against this group for decades,leaving them seriously disadvantaged. They looted the old working class male of everything he held dear,they took away his job,took away his family and imposed impossible rules on him. |
|
By:
Probably the Tories are afraid that this time around the Lib Dems won't win enough seats.
|
|
By:
I dread to think what those "working class parents from Lancashire" would make of today's version of the Labour Party, not least their shameful and cowardly conduct in Rochdale, historically part of Lancashire. (See also many other places).
Where exactly would "Turning a blind eye to the racist paedophiles who raped sexually-underaged white girls because of their skin colour" have fitted in do you think which that 40s/50s generation's idea of Socialism? Events have shown us that it's certainly been high on the priority list of some present-day politicians, where all too many racists have been given a free pass because of the colour of their skin, and their all-important "Cultural Differences". The working-classes were also famously and fiercely patriotic, a sin of course in today's modern Labour elite ranks. Ed Miliband a Socialist? Ye Gods, that's a stretch. I've never perceived him as a horny-handed son of toil myself. Has he ever had a proper job? |
|
By:
Marcce
19 Apr 15 10:44 Joined: 03 Jun 06 | Topic/replies: 3,466 | Blogger: Marcce's blog I don't agree. It's a sweeping generalisation to say the "people at large" aren't getting their concerns addressed. Fact is the EU isn't a big election issue for many people. I think there's a growing realisation for potential UKIP voters that the party isn't going to win more than 3 or 4 seats at best. With the prospect of a Labour government and SNP influence behind it, the conditions are there for UKIP voters to look to prevent that as a main aim. That remains the great unknown. The SNP vote is going to hold up but not so sure the UKIP vote will. I could understand this if the only people looking to vote UKIP were former Tory voters, but what if they are in a in a Labour seat and are former Labour voter? I have also said that the whole Labour snp thing is just a ploy to take the limelight from UKIP. |
|
By:
Don't come out with cliches. You don't have to wear a cloth cap and race pigeons, to be a socialist northerner either.
Same as a worker said to my dad when he came out of a Trade Union meeting with the bosses of a building firm. ' how can you represent us ? - you're wearing a suit !....' Would he have represented them any better wearing overalls ? |
|
By:
Ukip. An ugly party for ugly people
|
|
By:
remind me again what Ed Milliband looks like
 |
|
By:
Not an ad hominem attack macarony, dimmo. I'm talking about their views and policies.
|
|
By:
Which policies do you find ugly if that is the right word to describe such a thing?
|
|
By:
|
|
By:
luddite is a leftie, you won't get a straight answer from a leftie.
Lefties live a dream world of envy and malice. They simply slag everyone off who they judge as not being on the left. |
|
By:
Alun
Facts seems to have missed your factual post of 12:41. |
|
By:
Dr Crippen |
|
By:
S&GC. Yes, I'd noticed that too. He also managed to skate past the main points raised by another forumite at 11:09.
He also started a thread about a media person paid to make 'controversial' remarks, but then declined to comment about a media person who kept her BBC job despite making utterly shocking remarks. |
|
By:
No changes here. I don't know if the left have a rota but they seem to take it in turns to make these attacks against Farage but are almost singularly unable to explain what it is they find so reprehensible. The closest we seem to have come was the curious comments from Marcce. He clearly isn't as daft as your typical lefty so I have to conclude he is being disingenuous. He correctly points out that in a Westminster election Europe has never been high on the agenda for the British people. I think that is illustrative of how stupid people in general are but until they take the vote off stupid people such is their right. How he feels to then extrapolate from this that Farage would be daft to bang on about Europe if it won't gain nay traction is beyond me.
Even on immigration Farage is on a sticky wicket because again in between elections this is a major issue which tends to melt away in general elections when the economy and individual prosperity are the major issues. Even so immigration is an issue which does flow from our membership of the EU. So at least Farage is honest and consistent. Which still begs the question where all these nutters come from who decry him as vile and where they go to when asked to elaborate. |
|
By:
With regards to the EU, I don't think anybody disputes that this country can govern itself. That is different to whether it would be better to remain in or get out of the EU though. From a personal point of view, given that I don't share the parochialism many on here do, I think it would be a mistake to get out of it.
What you describe as parochialism is actually people who want our democracy to be run from this country. So let's be clear here. Lets assume you are one of the few remaining who thinks th grand project is worth a candle: Are you willing to see the end of our ability to set our own laws in our own interests to continue to be a member of a Unites States Of Europe? |