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breaking news-pilot locked out of cockpit
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The story of the Swedish football swapping flights is one of close shave.
Due to board the flight of the doomed plane. They decided to spread out on 3 other planes due to a delay at in Dusseldorf for their onward connection. |
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Pilots have been complaining about pollution getting into c*ck-pit....could affect their mental health.
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I hope they told relatives that they had changed flights.
Imagine what a horrible few hours it would have been if they hadn't. |
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*Swedish football team.
When they landed and turned the phones back on one lad had 200 missed calls, they realised then something serious had gone down. |
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only 630 hours in air for 18 months work, apparently had a "prolonged break", sometime
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one german report is that he had been treated for depression, he had a break from flying at that time, report came from a neighbour
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Interesting elise. That would be something for the company to answer.
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I'm astonished that some airlines allow a person to be alone in a locked cockpit, it's such an obviously flawed policy.
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to my mind if someone really wanted to down a plane then it wouldn't matter if there were two up front, not hard to club the other and do your stuff
there was a jal flight that crashed on approach when the captain flipped and just downed it on purpose, at the time there was a flight engineer and a co pilot in the cockpit and together they still couldn't stop him |
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Hows is it a floored policy?
The pilot could have just killed the copilot then crashed the plane! |
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a match could do it
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You seem to think that clubbing a person unconscious, or even killing them, is a mere bagatelle. I would beg to diifer. Having the extra security of two people in the cockpit at all times seems the very minimum to me. And, apparently, some airlines agree with this view.
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The Malaysian aircraft disappearance, the Air Asia crash in Indonesia and now this ... almost expect to hear the voice of the Mysterons next.
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they might agree with it as it's pretty much the only cheap option they have, but if someone wanted to kill himself and 150 others in a pre planned attack i personally doubt bringing a stewardess into the cockpit to cover for the pilot while he takes a pish would be a deterent
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Agree Poker. These budget planes don't even give you a drink though do they ? If this guy has ever been prescribed medication for depression during his break surely he should have been thrown out of flying work ?
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FECKING DREADFUL INCIDENT. ..1.2 max he has recently converted to Islam.
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It`s possible the person left in the cockpit wasn`t aircrew. Might have been a terrorist. Forced the crew out the cockpit at gun point and they left thinking he was just a hijacker. When the plane suddenly began descending they started banging the door to get back in to the cockpit? Something dodgy going on here. Tragic for the families of the poor people who lost their lives. RIP
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but that's just an air industry stat imo ,its not like its using like for like journeys is it ? they use number of miles flown for a reason
why not number of journeys made ? they use miles traveled to spin a stat and create a feeling of safety. ? Plenty of stats out there comparing number of fatal crashes compared to number of flights. Doesn't take a genius to understand how many flights are made per day and compare that to the number of fatal accidents either. I don't think they're doing much spinning in order to show flying is a very safe form of travel to be honest. |
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or maybe he left his pet dachshund in control?
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It`s possible the person left in the cockpit wasn`t aircrew. Might have been a terrorist. Forced the crew out the cockpit at gun point and they left thinking he was just a hijacker. When the plane suddenly began descending they started banging the door to get back in to the cockpit? Something dodgy going on here.
Dear God. Happens to me all the time on flights. I'm sat there minding my own business when someone taps me on the shoulder and asks me to sit in the cockpit while the pilot has a slash. Your version of events is far more believable than the official explanation isn't it? |
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a terribly selfish act if this is true ,but one that is still regarded as 'human error' rather than mechanical fault - you can't take out the human randomness of life .
If someone went for a haircut tomorrow and the barber slit their throat that would be a seriously unlucky customer - but you still couldn't stop it happening . This is probably a 3 million to 1 chance happening - you can't allow for all posibilities sadly . RIP to those killed (or murdered? ) Tel del - all things considered and normal weather conditions , there is marginally greater risk of death driving 50 miles to the airport at normal speed than taking a 1,000 mile flight |
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If someone went for a haircut tomorrow and the barber slit their throat that would be a seriously unlucky customer
It sure would be coach  |
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If you drive a car, is there more chance that some else on the road that could be suicidal, a carp driver or p1ssed out of his freakin noggin that may or may not result in your demise???
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How can a person who reportedly had a history of mental illness retain his Pilot`s license? Absolutely shocking.
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I've always argued against the airlines' take on the statistics, the 'death per miles travelled' calculation is specious in the extreme. After all, if an aircraft crashes towards the end a long haul flight, it's hardly any comfort that its first seven-thousdand miles or so were perfectly safe.
The 'per journey' method detailed above is a much fairer reflection of safety in my view. |
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I mentioned nothing about journeys to airports breadnbutter.
I was referring to your comment about creating a feeling of safety. |
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Air crashes are likely to be fatal as ur in a 500tonne Lumpur of metal doing 500mph, 6 miles in the sky!
Your not going to drive to the middleeast or USA for a weeks get away Thousands of cars crash every day in the uk but obviously speeds are much lower. |
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(autocorrect)
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The 'per journey' method detailed above is a much fairer reflection of safety in my view.
How do you work that out? We're talking about 2 forms of transport where travel parameters are completely different. There is no obvious commercial flight option that compares with a 2 minute drive to the shop. The only even remotely fair way of comparing travel between the 2 is to use miles traveled even with it's flaws. |
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Stats are totally useless if you are unlucky to be on the plane that crashes.
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you can't do a per journey comparison - a journey in a car could be one mile .
all you can do is use an hourly calculation - time in flight ,time in car . miles travelled is just as flawed as per journey Marcce . |
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why don't the insurers agree with you then ?
and why dont the air industry use that method ? because they could not claim air travel was the safest then could they ? also ,would love to see the pollution stats for air v car ....although air dont do pollution chat do they ? |
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why don't the insurers agree with you then ?
_________________ dunno |
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@ marcce
anyway maybe another thread another time  |
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also ,would love to see the pollution stats for air v car ....although air dont do pollution chat do they ? Do you believe driving 1000 people to Australia would be better for the environent than flying them? |
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dunno ....
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i would certainly feel safer flying 10,000 miles than driving 10.000 miles - but i'm not sure i'd feel safer flying 12 hours than driving for 12 hours - even though flying is the safer on both counts .
or 1 hour driving around mid Wales - that place is a death trap |
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driving to Australia is a fraught with stats
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