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By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 21 Oct 13 11:55
"It's all premeditated really isn't it?
Don't call the police instead ring the press/Sky News to say a British child has been abducted in Portugal so the immediate news release is about an abduction and that sows the first seed in peoples minds."


That was odd that they done that. Lot of answered questions.  And all this recent stuff in the papers and the Crimewatch programme, there is no real new developments or certainly nothing positive, so was it all designed to study the McCanns (?)
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 13 12:08
the police on crimewatch fallen for it,hook.line sinker
By:
GAZO
When: 21 Oct 13 12:24
the police might look like they have fallen for it
By:
donny osmond
When: 21 Oct 13 12:35
the mccanns will not pay his costs if they lose, portugese law seems to preclude that in libel trials
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 13 12:39
no win no fee
By:
brigust1
When: 21 Oct 13 12:44
I'm pretty sure I know who I would ring first if something happened to me in Portugal. From experience I wouldn't ring the police. They are completely useless. And so they have proved once again in this case.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 13 12:45
who would u phone?u need the locals involved
By:
brigust1
When: 21 Oct 13 12:47
I think the locals were already involved from the first minute. Don't the Portugese Police work in conjuction with the Greek Police? Another completely useless waste of time and money. No wonder the groups that assemble there en mass do so.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 13 12:58
your deluded if u think british police are numero uno


tina sharp--found in attic,wasted two weeks
By:
brigust1
When: 21 Oct 13 13:02
Did I say that? You are in a quiet resort in Portugal and you get mugged at night. The resorts are flooded with pick pockets and thieves who know the Police are useless and who spread out to the quieter resorts at night. You ring the Police for help, no-one there speaks English. You ring the consulate and there is no-one can help till the morning. Basically you are stuffed.
By:
donny osmond
When: 21 Oct 13 13:05
if you know the police are rubbish, and the resort is crime ridden, youd expect to take
better care of your valuables, if you went there at all.
By:
brigust1
When: 21 Oct 13 13:09
The problem is you don't know because if you knew you wouldn't go and the Police and Local Authorities know that. The Yanks know and warn their citizens specifically but being a holiday resort reliant on holiday makers it would crucify trade if the crime rate was disclosed.
The popular resorts are worse where gangs of pick pockets operate, many are from Romania, and the Police are powerless to do anything about them.
By:
SqueezeFirmly
When: 21 Oct 13 13:09
I bet the McCanns had their valuables locked away in a safe.

Shame they weren't that concerned about their children.
By:
paddletoe
When: 21 Oct 13 13:11
Why would you delete all messages on your mobile the day after your child went missing. Pretty certain the messages were deleted because the child went missing and would not have been deleted otherwise.  That's not to say there was anything incriminating in those messages but are a few possibly embarrassing text messages more important than finding your child.
By:
brigust1
When: 21 Oct 13 13:16
This new girl they have discovered in Greece apparently there have been 8,000 enquiries. This is a problem that has had the lid kept on it for too long by resorts and local Police simply because the resort would die.
I have had first hand experience of the Portugese Police and I can tell you they are not the least bit interested in tourist problems however grave.
My advice don't go to the place at all.
Anyway this is obviously a thread for the deluded who prefer to blame the victim than the perpetrator and the Police. Until something happens to them of course. So I'm off.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 13 13:19
police are useless, no-one there speaks English


total garbage statement with no factual truth
By:
brigust1
When: 21 Oct 13 13:21
Paddle. Just a final thought. When you text message memory is full it rejects incoming messages. At a time like that with potential messages coming in from everywhere would you keep messages that were of no use?

That's from the horses mouth X. Like it or not I don't give a monkeys.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 13 13:23
couldn't of been from a policemans mouth Excited
By:
brigust1
When: 21 Oct 13 13:35
Lets just say X, someone's son and girlfriend went on holiday to Portugal. On the way back to their hotel they drew some cash out of an ATM then walk back to the hotel. They were jumped on forced down a side alley and robbed and roughed up a bit by at least 4 blokes. They had a local Police number to ring but it just rang so he rang his Dad. You couldn't imagine receiving that call. You try the Police yourself and when you eventually get through no-one speaks English. You ring the consulate but there is no-one there until the morning but your message will be passed on. What do you do? I'll tell you what you do. You don't ever go to Portugal or Greece until they sort it out.
I'm off. Over stayed my welcome.
By:
paddletoe
When: 21 Oct 13 13:37
Good point bigrust. That would be a reasonable explaination I had not thought about.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 13 13:39
so they never got thru to police--so they wouldn't know police didn't speak english
By:
brigust1
When: 21 Oct 13 13:43
Last response honest. The Dad got through. They call it clutching at straws X.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 13 13:45
maybe theres an emergency number rather than police over there
By:
egner
When: 21 Oct 13 13:49
A_T   15 Oct 13 21:35   


The McCanns can't be all that happy at present. Jane Tanner's swarthy abductor, for years the cornerstone of their abduction theory, has been dismissed - to be replaced by a sighting of a man with a child identified as being Gerry McCann with 60-80% certainty.

Expect global sightings of little blonde girls to hit the red-tops in the next couple of weeks to swing momentum in the preferred direction.


..and as if by magic.....the grrek roam story emerges....

YIKES.
By:
egner
When: 21 Oct 13 14:07
guinness2dear   

20 Oct 13 22:30 


Didn't someone on here post something about a criminal record for McCann?


...not sure if it is classed as a criminal record.....google McCann CATS file.

(strange to have a number generated but no details???!!!!!!!!!!)
By:
egner
When: 21 Oct 13 14:11
..a little far fetched but worth posting again....

http://truthformadeleine.com/2012/01/gerrys-tunnel-vision/

..especially in light of how the higher echelons / establishment/uk media have swung full square behind the McCanns despite the various anomalies!!!
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 13 14:11
how can a criminal record be deleted,that initself is criminal
By:
egner
When: 21 Oct 13 14:14
don't know if it is classed as a criminal recored xm....

but the fact that the details are missing is worthy of investigation on its own I would have thought!!!
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Oct 13 14:19
u can be sure---if they were from council estate---wouldn't have same protection
By:
naydam
When: 21 Oct 13 14:19
Criminal records of the accuse are not made available to the jury in case it causes prejudice.

Please don't tell me that you are NOT the jury and they are NOT the accused...I would have to differ.
By:
donny osmond
When: 21 Oct 13 14:31
ive always found greek police to be great, as good if not better than our own when required

portugal.....never been, dont know


i cant imagine deleting messages incase id missed one or there was something important



perhaps he did not use his phone to phone police incase somebody out searching had news

theres loads of explanations i suppose, but they just want us to help on their terms






at some future point the twins will turn to their parents and say, did you really leave us unattendended that night
when madeline went missing...

i hope they have sorted out some answers by then
By:
donny osmond
When: 21 Oct 13 14:33
unattended
By:
akabula
When: 21 Oct 13 14:43
@iamajambo
I wasn't hinting at hypocrisy more that there is something that draws people to this thread (some would call it a morbid interest)  and lots of people, myself included, would hope that Madeleine could be found safe and well.
I fwiw don't subscribe to any of the theories but would never totally discount them either. The mccanns actions in the aftermath of Madeleine's disappearance need proper explanation as does the involvement of the government (D notices) and the British press (seemingly biased reporting)
I come hoping to see some explanation for these points.
By:
egner
When: 21 Oct 13 14:44
naydam   

21 Oct 13 14:19 

Criminal records of the accuse are not made available to the jury in case it causes prejudice.

Please don't tell me that you are NOT the jury and they are NOT the accused...I would have to differ.



..don't know for sure if this entry classifies as a criminal record but lets assume it does.

..there is no jury naydam.....and there is no judge...and there is no trial...why????

because the McCanns fled Portugal 2 days after they made arguidos and have refused to answer questions ever since.  They cite its an ongoing investigation and will hamper the search for this stance

In this context...the fact there is no trial..

Criminal Records are considered public documents.
By:
TheseGuysareGreat
When: 21 Oct 13 15:23
We all know aussies love rhyming slang but has enough time passed where we can start using...

" She's got huge Madeleine Mc Cann's"

Innapropriate?
By:
1st time poster
When: 21 Oct 13 17:42
having watched skys update again i think an earlier post talking abiut a double bluff is a deffo runner,
discussing the reconctruction of the irish sighting[actor double of gerry,mcaans must have had an early preview, but agreed to let it go on tv]
the child crime expert on sky who was used extensively at the time of the case in portugal, said the efits were old efits and the police were even given names for them[gerry]perhaps
at the end of the show they said the only way this will be solved is if someone is brave enough to comeforward and tell what they no[tapas 9].surely wouldnt be appealing to any abductors
seemed completly different to the bbc love in , maybe sky felt their noses were put out of joint by crimewatch getting the jump on them,but throughout the programme there was deffo littlebits of inuendo
By:
breadnbutter
When: 21 Oct 13 18:51
is this the same murdoch crew  that gave jobs to  McCann media employees and the same people who signed a 200k deal to serialise the McCanns book ...Laugh

the bbc is the official gov propaganda station but they now have competition for that spot.

i think we can safely discount anything from the established media sources in this country when it comes to this case.

the subterfuge and confusion will spin out of control ....seatbelts on
By:
TELL DEL
When: 21 Oct 13 19:52
This whole abduction operation would clearly have been more difficult if Madeleine had woken up whilst being abducted, or one or both twins had woken up. So did she sleep through the entire abduction (?)
By:
breadnbutter
When: 21 Oct 13 20:34
Shocked
By:
johnizere
When: 21 Oct 13 20:35
somebody refresh my memory please?
Who was the guy seen talking to Gerry McCann outside the complex?
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