there are some nasty pieces of work posting on this thread.......

The McCann’s said they checked on the children every 15 minutes, but then they changed their minds and said they checked once every hour, they then said it was once every half-hour. They were under the influence of drink so their sense of time would not be accurate, if they are telling the truth that is. How do we know they even checked on the children at all?
-Two of the best British cadaver dogs were flown to the resort; these two dogs have helped solve over 200 deaths and never been wrong in smelling blood and death. The dogs found blood and cadaverine in the room in the exact same locations as the Portuguese dogs. The British dogs also smelled blood and death in the boot of a rented car in Portugal that the family rented out. Keep in mind these two dogs were taken into the room individually, they both came back with the same results as the Portuguese dogs.
-The McCanns said the British and the Portuguese dogs were wrong.
-The smell of death was found on Kate McCann’s clothes, she said it was because she was a doctor and she has worked with corpses, did she take the same clothes she has been wearing in her surgery as she wore on holiday? Another strange fact.
-The rental Renault Scenic car they rented was put amongst various other cars and the dogs individually identified it as the only car in a car park to have the smell of death/blood on it. Each dog identified the boot as the place where the smell of death had been.
-The McCann’s also refused to answer any of the 48 questions the Portuguese authorities put to them, if they were innocent then why did they not answer the questions? This is not the actions of innocent parents, is it?
-They publicly agreed to take a lie detector, then refused to co-operate.
-They constantly say she was abducted, what about the fact she could have walked out of the room herself? It was reported that Madeleine had a tendency for getting up during the night, yet the McCann’s say she was sound asleep? Did they give her sedatives if she died that night?
-The McCann’s insistence that Madeleine always slept like a log once she had fallen asleep was a lie, family members reported that Madeleine did in fact have a tendency to wake up and wander after being put to bed in her own home. Why was a young girl with a tendency to wander at night being left unsupervised? (that’s if she was still alive at that time)
-The McCann’s say the abductor climbed through the window and took Madeline this way, the window had shutters on it, the McCann’s claim that they abductor broke the shutters to gain entry, yet the shutters had no evidence of damage on them, they can only be opened from the inside of the apartment. There was also no finger prints in the apartment window of anyone else except Kate McCann, even though the McCann’s claim the abductor climbed in and out the window, somehow not managing to leave any prints or damage to the shutters, remember, he/she is carrying a girl that weighed 3 stone yet the abductor manages to get away with not a fingerprint left behind or a shred of DNA?
- The McCann’s also refused to let the twins take drug tests until 5 months after the “abduction” even though by that time drugs would be out of their system. That indicates they have something to hide, I think they drugged Madeleine with sedatives.
-Only 5 photos of Madeleine on holiday yet there were many more of their twins, there is doubt she even died that night.
-Kate McCann publicly admitted that both she and her husband were ‘sleeping normally’ again just five days after Madeleine ‘disappeared’. The behaviour of other parents whose child has been abducted, or has gone missing, or has died, is always very different. They invariably report that they suffer enormous distress at their loss and are usually unable to sleep soundly until months after the event.
- Doing normal, everyday things, immediately after Madeleine ‘disappeared’, but not searching for her:
The McCann’s went jogging every day after Madeleine’s disappearance. He even arranged tennis matches and played tennis, while hundreds of others were physically searching the area around Praia da Luz in the days following Madeleine’s ‘disappearance’. The McCanns later admitted publicly that they spent no time at all physically searching for their lost daughter.
-Why are they using their daughters search fund money to pay their mortgage?

There are many more additional facts to suggest they killed their daughter. It may have been she accidentally overdosed on sedatives, I'm not saying they went out of their way to kill her, but they did do something wrong.

Eventually the truth will arise, the twins they have just now will one day want a lot of answers to why their sister “disappeared”. It is publicly documented and information can be accessed online at the touch of a button, it won’t be long before the McCann’s kids are asking them all of this.

DNA & Forensic results can't tells lies, but human beings can.

Note - not my work .

“Keela could be described as ‘top dog’ in her field of expertise. The trained Crime Scene Investigation (CSI) dog has skills like no other and it has left forces worldwide hankering after an insight into her special training”, according to South Yorkshire police.

The Springer Spaniel “can sniff out the smallest samples of human blood - even after items have been cleaned or washed many times”, according to the Daily Mail.

And Keela earns more than her Chief Constable, something that doesn't bother Mr. Meredydd Hughes, according to The Times. “PC John Ellis, Keela's handler, said that “she can detect minute quantities of blood that cannot be seen with the human eye” and is able to “sniff out blood in clothes after they have been washed repeatedly in biological washing powder”, also according to The Times.

The plain fact is she was taken while this pair of coonts were out on the lash.

That was step number one (as far as we know, who knows what they else they did) in not sufficiently caring about your children.

Weren't there rumours early on that one of the 'parents' had given the children sleeping tablets?

They are high profile people, so all they did was splattered over the pages of the papers, and I found it astonishing that they got sympathy for their own selfish behaviour.   

If he had been a lorry driver and she worked in Tesco, the British press would have facking slaughtered them.

There is a lot of conflicting information in that post Irish Celtic. For example you state that:

Kate McCann publicly admitted that both she and her husband were ‘sleeping normally’ again just five days after Madeleine ‘disappeared’. The behaviour of other parents whose child has been abducted, or has gone missing, or has died, is always very different. They invariably report that they suffer enormous distress at their loss and are usually unable to sleep soundly until months after the event.

If, as you allege, they had killed Madeline they would have followed the pattern above and been wracked by guilt. Throw in the fact that you allege they were behaving "normally" and hat doesn't suggest people who are trying to hide a dark secret but people in shock. People do the strangest things when in shock including appearing to behave normally in extreme circumstances.

Again if you allege they killed Madeline that night with an overdose why are you also introducing the absence of photos and suggesting she was killed earlier on the holiday.

There's plenty of your evidence which doesn't seem to add up. What are you seeking to hide? Confess all.

I see it as squeeze firmly does. Their profession as a respectable middle class couple saved them from dogs abuse which if a single mum had done what they did would have been unremitting. Doesn't mean they killed Madeline though.

He'd dangle em both over a railing.

He'd get a result. All this fart-arssing about is rediculous.

Cue new book/documentary/t-shirt blah blah

and some guilt I would think

I don't really know what dogs abuse is, but they've had far more grief because they're middle-class than if they were working class. Countless stories of far worse neglicence since, none have stayed in the headlines for long, simply because we don't expect much better from the lower end of society.

he's at Nestor's birthday party today Mr. Orioles.

Clungehungry
05 Jul 13 15:33   
I don't really know what dogs abuse is, but they've had far more grief because they're middle-class than if they were working class. Countless stories of far worse neglicence since, none have stayed in the headlines for long, simply because we don't expect much better from the lower end of society.

Who is in the lower end of society?

Couldn't possibly include the ones that mutilate young black girls, or the witchraft killings of young black boys and girls, as is their custom they bring to these shores. You don't hear much about it, but it happens, that's a certainty. 

Or asian gangs of paedophiles picking on white girls in care, as is their habit. You don't hear much about it, until it gets to court, and you wonder why police never got to them earlier.

far worse than a couple who may have made a bad call over their child's security

So even you are doubtful?

I'm not jealous of a pair that are so well off they wouldn't pay for a childminder.

as Mikael said, they should have paid a childminder or what used to be known as a baby sitter.
That was their job

this is only my opinion

you are entitled to your own Clunge

I'm sure all of you who can remember being left on your own while your parents went out can also remember being able to go out without locking the house. Bet there aren't many who'd leave a door unlocked now.

Also, if a couple over here went out and left three infants unattended, I'm sure Social Services might have something to say. It wasn't simply a case of 'in this life we all make mistakes' at all. It was grossly negligent imo.

agree Mikael

apologies clunge

it is the leaving 3 children under 5 unattended that concerns me

you think this is perfectly ok don't you

what motivates you