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By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jul 13 17:59
The big one is a normal onion Tommy.  What is aussie veg? 

Anyone else got pics of their harvest?  Lots of broad beans, I just sprayed off as much black fly as I could with the hose pipe.  Tey were fine inside, a few pods look ravaged by it but still should get to eat a lot of it.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jul 13 18:00
Oh I get it, aussie = upside down.    The right way up on my screen.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 13 Jul 13 18:01
Ah, I didn't realise it was a normal onion.
Aussie veg is 'upside down veg'!
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 13 Jul 13 18:02
Really?!
It's not here.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 13 Jul 13 18:02
Does it taste a lot better because you've just picked it? I would expect so.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jul 13 18:06
Yep, the broadbeans were lovely, I dont normally eat them.  All i did was plonk a seed right in the ground and that is it other than weeding and watering.  Planted them in March when it was bitterly cold, they are hardy little buggers.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 13 Jul 13 18:11
Excellent, Rob.
Your lettuces look lovely too.
I bought 3 on Tuesday, 2  round ones at 50p each and 1 iceberg at 89p, so that's £1.89 for the three.
I've eaten the two round ones already.
I'll bet you've grown a whole allotment's worth of them for £1.89?
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 13 Jul 13 18:16
Rob, I'm watching a programme on Ch5 at the moment (while listening to the cricket on the comp) about an Aussie bloke who went on a juice only fast for 60 days and improved his health enormously.
It's really interesting.
It's also being shown on Ch5+ from the start at 6pm if you want to have a look.

With the amount of veg you'll get soon it would be dead cheap for you to have a glass or two of fresh juice a day, if you wanted to.
By:
Foinavon
When: 13 Jul 13 18:39
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Rob, here is a pic of my garlic drying in the sun.
I've used the freed up space to plant some more beetroot seedlings (started in cells two weeks ago) and some mildew resistant peas (called Boogie). The peas are bit of a gamble this late but hoping for a warm dry autumn.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jul 13 18:49
That is a lot of garlic, does that last until winter when hung up?
By:
Foinavon
When: 13 Jul 13 19:05
I usually plant about 100 head and reserve a dozen or so for planting in September (they don't take up much space). The rest keep right through until April when they start to sprout.
By:
Petrus Romanus
When: 13 Jul 13 19:49
Nice looking garlic Foinavon...I've finally got around to posting some pics of what I have growing...I have a ton of garlic but it isn't ready to come out yet. Here's a link for anyone who is interested. I added comments to many of the photos. Everything is still in the ground but I'll be taking snaps once I start harvesting.

Link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/13783447@N03/with/9275922527/
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 13 Jul 13 19:53
Smashing photos Petrus.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Jul 13 19:55
Petrus... That looks like America.  Courgette lloking good, bet you will have them coming out of yourears soon.  All looksa lot tidier than my plot.
By:
Petrus Romanus
When: 13 Jul 13 20:00
Thx Tommy for ur kind remarks :-)

Rob I live in Canada...I've been here too long obviously because I called the thing zucchini...I forgot it was a courgette in England (I'm an expat). There's gonna be loads of them as I have three big plants...the mrs wants to make some relishes so they'll all get used up.
By:
Foinavon
When: 13 Jul 13 21:00
Thanks for your comments Petrus and for sharing your pics. I'm envious of the amount of space you have over there. What is your growing season like? It looks hot and dry at the moment and the outdoor tomatoes and squash are growing well. Do you grow other varieties of squash, other than spaghetti squash?
By:
Petrus Romanus
When: 13 Jul 13 23:22
I have plenty of room for growing that's for sure...the patches I dug and the raised beds only take up a fraction of the back yard which is basically lawn and half a dozen fruit trees. We don't start to see much in the way of sunshine and good growing weather til mid May though last year was a freakish year with a really long hot summer.

Right now it's very hot and dry...a lot of the grass is starting to burn and turn brown (on properties that actually cut their grass). Last year wiped out a ton of lawns but grass is very resilient...it comes right back the next year good as new.

As far as growing squash goes this is the first time I've tried it...we like spaghetti squash so I thought I'd try and grow some.
By:
Foinavon
When: 14 Jul 13 11:50
Your weather sounds much like mine (Midlands) and I always add 2 to 4 weeks to sowing instructions on seed packets if sowing outdoors as it seems they are aimed at gardeners in the southern counties. Mostly I start plants in trays and plant out when the soil warms towards the end of May.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 15 Jul 13 13:20
Not a great photo of any produce (not that there has been much yet!) but might give a feel for what I am doing, what space I have etc.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/52901652@N08/?details=1

This is at the top of the garden.  I got some old slabs from next door, which I am removing as I plant more stuff.  I built a couple of cages and we also have some netting tunnels which keep birds off.

Things that look like they are doing OK are spuds, strawberries, radish, spinach (bolted) onions, cabbage, sprouts, courgettes, runner beans

Things that aren't peppers (small and underdeveloped plants), aubergine (one plant, just hasn't grown),  rhubarb (leaf spots), dwarf beans (slugs seem to like them)

I have no idea about veg gardening, but I do like landscaping/building stuff!
By:
Foinavon
When: 15 Jul 13 13:35
Looks very neat and tidy Jack, excellent work.
Rhubarb tends to die back at this time of year so don't worry about leaf spots. They are very hardy plants and will send up some new leaves in a few weeks time when the weather cools. It's a good time to give them a liquid feed to build up strength for next season.
peppers and aubergines are tender plants and best grown with some protection.
Hope this helps. I'm off to do some watering on the allotment now.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 15 Jul 13 18:44
Thanks, Foinavon.  Certainly the peppers and aubergines are a bit exposed.  I think Mrs H is going to transfer them into pots and put near the shelter of the house.  We get a wind across from behind where the side I took the photo.  The rhubarb is new this year, so hopefully some improvement will come if I get some liquid feed.  Thanks for the advice.
By:
bongo
When: 15 Jul 13 21:13
That's a lovely work Jack: I like the way the slabs are small enough to be easily movable so next year you could line the beds up in new directions and sizes without too much lifting.
Also that border - you'd expect the grass close to it to be in recovery following all that standing on it when digging, but the grass looks in great shape.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 15 Jul 13 21:14
A very tidy plot Jack! Well done.

Don't know if this is useful to any of you but here's a table of different vegetables listing all their nutritional information when you click on their name.

Could be useful for anyone with certain medical conditions - or wanting to ward them off - in considering what to grow.
For instance, lettuce and cucumbers are high in vitamin K which is good for building bones and in treating Alzheimer's (preventative?):

http://www.nutrition-and-you.com/vegetable-nutrition.html
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 15 Jul 13 21:16
- and this is the table for fruits:

http://www.nutrition-and-you.com/fruit-nutrition.html


As you can see, both are from an American site (so include veg and fruits not common to us) but I can't find anything equivalent on a British one.
By:
Deltâ
When: 15 Jul 13 21:58
great pics Jack - thanks for posting....
By:
Petrus Romanus
When: 15 Jul 13 23:27
Good job Jack...nice and organised looking plot you have there :-)
By:
Foinavon
When: 15 Jul 13 23:46
Jack,
You will need to be patient with the rhubarb as it takes a while to become established. Next year harvest very sparingly if at all. In the third year it will reward you amply and you will be able to pick as much as you like. I have six plants and harvest loads every spring.
Good idea to protect the peppers and aubergines from the wind. Choose a warm sunny spot if you can. Poly tunnels and even enviromesh tunnels work wonders in windy locations.
By:
David Fishwick Minibus Sales
When: 16 Jul 13 16:44
root out, onions in

that's item 1 for my allotment to-do list tomorrow



(courtesy Fred Boycott)
By:
Deltâ
When: 16 Jul 13 16:48
Sp Broccoli Cabbage Kale and Swede  [seed] - todays planting here...
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 16 Jul 13 16:59
Very good Fishy.

Broccoli is definitely the 'King' of veg, Delta.
If you were limited to only growing one thing on a plot broccoli would be the best thing you could grow nutrient-wise.
By:
Foinavon
When: 16 Jul 13 18:46
Dug some second early potatoes (Wilja) today. Lovely scrapers with which I made a potato salad with mayonnaise and chives.
The soil around the roots was dry as dust so watering definitely needed, especially maincrop varieties.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 16 Jul 13 21:32
Cook root and trot imo.
By:
blackbarn
When: 16 Jul 13 23:29
Hi Foinavon,  Update on the Sussex Florence Fennel we discussed - Thinned again 2 weeks ago and now beginning to swell ever so slightly. They're in my carrot and swede bed and haven't adapted my standard watering plan. Very dry here, no real natural rain to speak of for over four weeks. For you spud lovers, my International Kidney (Jerseys) pots have handled the drought best of all - and I grow four varieties of first earlies.  Must be the year.
By:
Foinavon
When: 17 Jul 13 00:03
Hi Blackbarn,
Thanks for the update, the Mediterranean weather should certainly help the Florence Fennel. Best keep them watered otherwise they will bolt. International Kidney is a good tasty variety but I stopped growing them as the slugs ate most of mine in normal wet years. This year I'm growing Wilja and Charlotte (second earlies), Desiree and Sarpo Mira (Maincrop). Sarpo have a degree of blight tolerance and slug resistance so can be left in the ground longer to form larger baking potatoes. There are lots of other good varieties and best to try several to find your own favourites. Another I would mention is Kestrel which is quick to mature and slugs tend to leave them alone.
Good luck with your other crops.
By:
blackbarn
When: 17 Jul 13 00:30
Thanks Foinavon - Re Fennel - Water, bumping up as we speak. Charlotte is my best second early every year (only one I grow now except Duke of York and that is really an early isnt it). I only have Ratte for a maincrop, as does well in my ground and I love it. Mind I have a good source of local maincrops in bulk and at a good price.
By:
Foinavon
When: 17 Jul 13 00:38
Yes, agree with you that Charlotte is one of the best for flavour especially for salads. I've never tried Ratte, is that a French variety?
By:
bongo
When: 20 Jul 13 22:52
Plenty of brownish looking lawns round here
Interestingly the grass is still green when it's cut by the council, presumably as they leave the trimmings in situ, so there is more nutrient and moisture retention.

Anyway, here's the latest wide shot from the plot I've been tending
.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97178879@N06/9328147939
Parsnips and pink kerrs are doing well ( the kerrs got some grass trimmings a few weeks back ).

Good luck all with the watering.
By:
Deltâ
When: 21 Jul 13 18:51
nicked the treeSad

thanks for posting the pics bongo..


here

watered everything to within an inch of its life
garlic [winter] up  - good and bads ones
garlic [spring] part up - poor
broads beans up and finished [root left in for soil benefits] - spring ones good
peas up and finished [root left in for soil benefits] - poor effort - too cold earlier too dry latter imo
leeks planted [122 no.] where BBs were - fingers crossed
strawberry runners pinched/hooked into pots for new ones -


luckily last two days have given some respite on the hot front until tomorrow...
By:
Foinavon
When: 21 Jul 13 19:23
Thanks for the pics Bongo. Like the look of the strawberries. Are they alpine variety? Your patch is an oasis in a desert of weeds. Is it all yours to cultivate or have you borrowed a bit?

Interesting post Delta. Some good, some poor is par for the course when gardening. Every year is different and nothing is guaranteed. For certain it's never boring.
By:
bongo
When: 21 Jul 13 21:48
Cheers Delta and Foinavon,

There are strawberries growing wild on the old freight railway path near here, very small plants though, fragaria vesca is the posh name or Alpine strawberry as you said. They're not a commercial variety. They seem to like the thin stony/sandy soil. I'm presuming they will be out competed by grasses in the wild when there is a bit more sunlight and depth of soil. They've taken off since I ahem borrowed a couple to propagate from, and six plants have gone back to where they were taken from.

The site used to be a livestock mart until around 2007, with lots of hard-standing areas. It's had planning permission for 9 houses and a townhouse of 4 units since 2005, now lapsed. Until the developers re-apply and start building i'm 'borrowing' it. Haven't asked permission, just a few cyclists dog walkers and kids asking what's that, do you like cricket and can you fetch that football etc.
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