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By:
Foinavon
When: 23 Jul 13 19:04
Good for you Bongo, hope you are left alone for a few years more.

We had thunderstorms this morning. I measured 2 inches of rain using a bucket. This is about 12 tonnes of water spread over the allotment which saves a lot of watering. More rain on the way tomorrow which should be enough to see the potatoes through to harvest. Need to watch out for blight now that conditions are warm and humid.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 23 Jul 13 19:23
Very ingenious Bongo,dont they callthat guerilla gardening?  I seem to be experimenting with my cooking as a result of the produce available.  Just put home grown onion and tomato into a bolognese... Not so unusual, but also radish, shallots and broad beans, with toro rosso lettuce on the side.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 23 Jul 13 19:29
Anyonecooked with lettuce? Unfortunately mine have got too big and I couldnt eat them quick enough. So not perfect for salads any more.  Was wondering if they can be cooked and eaten like spinach, or just chucked into a dish...ie. bolognese?  Sure it wont kill you but is it tasty, particularly with lettuce that has perhaps grown a few weeks too long.
By:
Foinavon
When: 23 Jul 13 19:35
Never tried cooking lettuce Rob, but have heard it is OK cooked.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 23 Jul 13 19:36
Im gonna try it steamed like I would spinach.  Unfortunately my spinach didnt come up, dunno why, thought that was an easy one.
By:
Foinavon
When: 23 Jul 13 19:39
Let us know if it's any good, would expect it to be like spinach as you suggest or Swiss chard (spinach beet)
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 23 Jul 13 19:49
the wife does this dish now and then and it is very nice, requires a little gem lettuce

http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/518641/frenchstyle-chicken-with-peas-and-bacon
By:
rob_dylan
When: 23 Jul 13 19:54
Youve convinced me gents, prob not that recipe BB(dont tend to buy chicken) but will follow their advice and just chuck in a few leaves of these(enormous) toro rossos in my next chilli or bolognese or stew or whatever, might even just steam them and serve on the side with bangers and mash with gravy on top.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 23 Jul 13 20:18
I presume you mean lollo rosso, they are very tender and will cook down to nothing
By:
rob_dylan
When: 23 Jul 13 20:29
Ha ha, i dont even know my own produce - yes lolo rosso just shredded a few leaves and chucked them in the remaining bolognese, after twenty mins stewing.  Was fine.  This is a revelation, will try similar with the remaining two.  I alwo have a couple of green lettuce that have over grown now.. Kind of turned into pagoda like towers, instead of round ones smilar to supermarket.  Might be too much of a punt to cook them, but shall give it a go I think.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 24 Jul 13 20:36
I can confirm that two radishes were harvested this evening.

I washed, and topped and tailed them and ate them whole.  Nicely peppery.

William and Kate can't compete with that.
By:
bongo
When: 24 Jul 13 21:00
I saw Jack's post above after checking out the action on Politics and thought he'd harvested two racists at first reading. Then washed and topped them and had a better experience than the royals.

Radishes - good work.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 24 Jul 13 21:14
I have got loads of radishes, keep pulling them up accidentally thinking they are weeds.  What to do with them exactly?
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 24 Jul 13 21:29
I had no idea, other than slicing them up with a salad, so have Googled and just found 48 recipes for radishes on one site - you can even grill them!

http://allrecipes.com/recipes/fruits-and-vegetables/vegetables/radishes/main.aspx?Page=1#recipes
By:
666_v
When: 24 Jul 13 21:40
You should be making the most of your space - grow what you love to eat and generally eat the most of
By:
rob_dylan
When: 24 Jul 13 21:41
I am not a big salad person.  Think I shall just chuck them into anything I am cooking... Chilli, bolognese, cottage pie,stew, anything basically.

These overripe lollorosso lettuce are going the same way, gonna eat them like spinach.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 24 Jul 13 22:10
I'm eating loads of lettuces at the moment. Had three in three days last week.
I use them as wraps for stuff - much nicer than bread, especially if you like other salad stuff like tomatoes to wrap them around.

Good idea to chuck them in with anything you might be cooking like you would with spinach.

There's a recipe on that site for Vietnamese Beef and Lettuce Curry and also one for Lettuce and Tarragon soup, which sounds interesting.

http://allrecipes.com/search/default.aspx?qt=k&wt=lettuce&rt=r&origin=Recipe%20Hub&Page=1
By:
Deltâ
When: 24 Jul 13 22:31
and no won mentioned some rain arrived this week Happy
By:
rob_dylan
When: 24 Jul 13 22:34
No rain down here.
By:
666_v
When: 24 Jul 13 22:36
I've been watering every night apart from one over the past 3 weeks. I have a drip hose on all of my potatoes and turnips/swedes but not enough pipe to do the full patch.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 24 Jul 13 23:52
I just eat the roots and leaves of radishes raw, though the leaves benefit from a bit of mayonnaise or olive oil as they get older.

Leave some of your radishes in the ground to flower. The flowers, and the tender stems and leaves between the flowers and the tough main stem, are deliciously peppery. By this stage the root will sometimes have become woody and will need cooking, e.g. hacked up and chucked in a stew or Bolognese sause.
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 13 00:27
Radish seed pods are good to eat too. Pick them while they are young and juicy, they have a fresh peppery taste. Each plant will set hundreds of pods.
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 13 00:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EtZMU510gY
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 25 Jul 13 06:41
666, A mate told me they had soaking hoses in Poundland - so I had a look.

Indeed they do.  They are plastic and 6m long and cost, err, a pound.  No idea if they are any good though or how long they might last.

One thing I didn't realise previously was how colourful some of the veg can be.  The flowers on the courgettes are amazingly big and bright yellow - just for one day usually.  Strawberries have done well.  Orange flowers on the runner beans.  Reds of the beetroot and radishes poking through...

I do appreciate all the help from more experienced veg gardeners on here.

I have a bit of space in the plot.  Any tips on what we should be planting now.
By:
Deltâ
When: 25 Jul 13 08:45
Jack ' did you know the courgette flowers are edible and very nice too - refreshing and juicy [get the ants out of them first]


they can also be deep fried!
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 25 Jul 13 15:18
Thanks, Delta! - will nip up the garden shortly to munch one!
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 25 Jul 13 15:34
yes use a nice light tempura batter
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 13 17:05
Jack,
Still time to sow seed of quick growing veg such as radish, turnips, peas (choose a mildew resistant variety such as Boogie), spring onions and beetroot (will be baby beet but very acceptable).

Good time to take cuttings from any bushy plants you fancy (I nip off a few sprigs as I walk past - naughty but nice)and either stand them in water to root or pot them up immediately. Keeping a plastic bag in your pocket to pop them in helps keep them fresh until you get home.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 25 Jul 13 17:07
my chickens have had a feast today on all the caterpillars off my sprouts
By:
666_v
When: 25 Jul 13 19:59
If you are considering planting turnips then you should really plant swedes.

They are frost resistant whereas turnips are not. So you can be eating them very late into the season
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 13 20:34
I've never tried planting swedes this late in the season as they take a long time to mature. What were your results like 666_v?
Turnips are quick growing and will provide a harvest sept/oct of roots and tops if planted now. They just need watering during dry periods.
By:
666_v
When: 25 Jul 13 20:47
It may be a little late but you can still pick them at Christmas - so they may not be as big as turnips but they are more hardy.
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 13 20:51
Thanks,might give it a try as I didn't have room for them in the spring.
Agree with you that the taste of swede is better and that they are more hardy than turnips.
By:
666_v
When: 25 Jul 13 21:01
I usually do a small crop of turnips and 3 times as many swedes. Eat the turnips first and then have no worry about the swedes with the cold weather.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 25 Jul 13 21:03
Swedes are great. You can have one in the fridge for months before they go off. Essential for 'proper Lobby making'.

They're called Turnips in Stoke, by the way.
By:
Deltâ
When: 25 Jul 13 21:08
I dont plant swedes until this time of the year, and actually down as last saturdays job moved to this w/e due to heat!

they come fine around Xmas / New Year time which is when I want them, seasonal...


tbf i do keep them under abit of fleece so probably speeds them up abit
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 13 21:44
Thanks 666_v and Delta. The fleece sounds like a good idea. I have an enviromesh tunnel so will try growing them under it. It will keep the pigeons off eating the tops.
Swede mashed with potato and a bit of gravy goes down well in mid-winter.
By:
666_v
When: 25 Jul 13 22:01
A tip for spuds - keep all your small ones and re-plant them in a patch so you know where they are.

Then next spring, dig them up and plant them again in their new spots. They are going up in price every year so it helps.

I usually plant around 4 varieties so they cross pollinate and you get some interesting combinations the following seasons.
By:
Deltâ
When: 25 Jul 13 22:51
Foinavon - yeah enviro mesh thats what mine go under - seems to draw them on abit - put a row of seed in, willly nilly and will pop thru in a few weeks - water if necess' and then just thin to a few inches -  upto 6/8 inches per plant and jobs a good un
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 13 22:59
You've convinced me. I'll be sowing swedes tomorrow.
Thanks for your help.
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