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By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 26 Jul 13 00:14
Was just about to post a request for something to sow in the space where the radishes had been. No need now. Swedes it is. Off to get a packet of seeds tomorrow.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 26 Jul 13 07:47
Thanks Foinavon.  Will definitely get some of those in.

Burton, tried our new chickens on all manner of green stuff, weeds, veg waste etc. but they are not interested.  Chucked them a couple of part bird eaten strawberries and they went flipping mental for them.  Flying up to grab them out of my hand.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 26 Jul 13 07:56
Jack try parsley or cucumber
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 26 Jul 13 13:45
Will do, BB.
By:
Foinavon
When: 26 Jul 13 19:50
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These are photos taken earlier this week to show how things have moved on from the last one I posted.Everything is now fighting for space.
Went to the allotment this afternoon and sowed seed of swede (variety Ruby which is claimed to be fast maturing). Also harvested loads of broad beans and some potatoes. The Desiree are now "baking" size which is good news as the blight can't be far away now.
By:
Deltâ
When: 26 Jul 13 21:12
great pics foinavon


as you say too blight Sad
By:
Foinavon
When: 26 Jul 13 21:47
Thanks Delta.
The blight hasn't arrived here yet but more rain is forecast this weekend which could provide ideal conditions for the spores. Some of my neighbours spray with Bordeaux mixture but I prefer to harvest the potatoes as soon as the plants show signs of the disease.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 27 Jul 13 14:32
At last, it is bloody raining.Hallelujah. Must be the first time in a month, hope it is a proper downpour,no watering this weekend hopefully. I have never wanted rain in my life until I have started this gardening lark.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 29 Jul 13 19:10
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http://tinypic.com/r/wh1ves/5

Today's catch.  A radish that almost looks like a radish in the middle.  Spuds, toms(big ones only go in a bolognese, chilli or stew for now), shallots and an onion.  Oh, and a little cucumber behind the big tom.. It was that size three weeks ago, dont know what happened i watered and fed but it didnt get any bigger and the other one on the plant just shrivelled up and went yellow.  Will test it out tomorrow.
Green lettuce is now two foot high and basically no good, the lolo rosso overgrown too.  I just couldnt eat them quick enough.  My original plan was to plant one every week but instead just did the lot in one go... You live and learn.  The broad beans are totally finished and dead now, i will plant more next year, they were good.  Runners and sweetcorn about two foot high now, well behind other efforts on the allotment.  Bit worried about the asparagus, should i be worried about them dying, i got this idea in my head they were perennials and just leave them be, but i am a little worried now they looked a bit ropy, i havent been watering them as much as the other crops.  Spuds just seem to produce whatever, they are covered in weeds, i havent watered them that much, some of them look totally dead overground, but there are true riches underground.  God bless the humble spud, great for the amateur veg gardener's ego.  I fear I have lots of winterwork ahead though.
By:
Foinavon
When: 29 Jul 13 22:58
A good effort for your first year on the allotment Rob.
Asparagus is a perennial and takes a few years to become established. At this time of the year there should be lots of fern like fronds which sometimes produce red berries. The plants like well drained soil and it's important to keep the bed weed free.
We had a series of stormy downpours today, some with hailstones so stayed at home and baked "Roman Army " bread.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 30 Jul 13 00:23
Excellent Aussie veg (again) Rob!
You've definitely got the knack.
The spuds look wonderful.
By:
666_v
When: 06 Aug 13 23:17
Allotment Wars BBC1 Laugh
By:
Capt__F
When: 06 Aug 13 23:20
quitefancy the blonde 1
By:
Capt__F
When: 06 Aug 13 23:21
and the black bottle sister if honest
By:
666_v
When: 06 Aug 13 23:25
He's got a big one Shocked
By:
666_v
When: 06 Aug 13 23:28
One of his carrots was stolen at the show. What a great advert for jealousy
By:
kenny mann
When: 07 Aug 13 01:36
still having problems with my carrots, had to put them in soil in a cat litter tray as I don't have an allotment.
By:
kenny mann
When: 07 Aug 13 01:37
put plenty of seeds in, don't understand it.
By:
Deltâ
When: 11 Aug 13 21:51
guess we are all too busy collecting to post.. the joys of gardening.
By:
Foinavon
When: 12 Aug 13 11:57
Been torn between cricket and gardening Delta. Wish I hadn't bothered with the 3rd Test.
The swedes sowed a fortnight ago are growing well. Have protected them with netting from the birds and with slug pellets and gave them a very light sprinkling of Growmore to encourage rapid growth before the cold weather arrives.
Chopped the tops off the outdoor tomatoes down to the highest truss of green tomatoes as there won't be time to ripen more and sowed some Early Queen spring cabbage which will overwinter outside and form pointed cones in the spring.
Been a pretty good year so far, hope it's the same for you.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 12 Aug 13 18:03
Great reading and great tips.  Makes me feel inadequate!

Mrs H cut the leaves off the courgettes (to let the sun get to them) - is that a good idea?  We didnt get many more afterwards - lol.
By:
Foinavon
When: 12 Aug 13 18:20
Best to keep harvesting courgettes while they are small if you want more of them. If you let them grow you will have a few large marrows and no more courgettes.
It's a good idea to strip a few leaves off tomato plants to let the sun ripen the fruit at this time of year especially when there is blight around.
It doesn't matter how long you have been gardening there is always something new to learn. Also there is no "right way" to garden, just what works best for you.
By:
666_v
When: 12 Aug 13 18:25
Cut the leaves off? Haha, yeah the leaves are just there for show Jack Crazy

Had millions (or so it seems), butterflies laying eggs on my turnips and swedes but I think they should be ok.

Nice to see all the wildlife in the garden, feels like I'm doing my bit
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 12 Aug 13 18:31
Thanks both.  We didn't get any really big ones/marrows - just nice sized.  And, it wasn't MY idea to cut them off Cry
By:
Foinavon
When: 12 Aug 13 18:37
Not to worry Jack, the courgette season is almost over. As soon as the nights turn colder the plants stop producing and the slugs attack the immature ones. I've had enough of them now and am looking forward to harvesting the first leeks next month.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 12 Aug 13 18:54
i am a novice with this growing lark and bought some multi purpose" soil" from b and qs to put in troughs for growing carrots ,spuds ect in my garden anyway had no soil/earth to mix it with ,but at my caravan there is plenty of mole activity and i have collected a good few bags of earth  from the molehills ,it looks good soil an d the little buggers sift it for you ,gonna give it a try also going to put some seaweed in ,all free !
By:
Foinavon
When: 12 Aug 13 19:29
Soil from molehills is excellent FOYLESWAR. The little devils are hunting for earthworms and there aren't many of them in poor soil. Good luck with your gardening.

Chinese proverb:
If you would be happy for a week, take a wife;
if you would be happy for a month, kill a pig;
but if you would be happy all your life, plant a garden.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 12 Aug 13 19:39
cheers foinavon have got limited space in garden room for  2 largish troughs and a few steel bin type containers ,spuds are getting expensive at around a pound for a small bag . is it too late to plant spuds outside now ?
By:
Foinavon
When: 12 Aug 13 20:18
Normally yes it is too late, however some of the large seed merchants advertise potatoes to plant for new spuds at Christmas. These are tubers which have been held in cold storage so that when they warm up now they "think" it is the end of winter and start to grow. If you plant these it must be in containers which you can bring indoors at the first sign of frost (so you will need a frost free shed or greenhouse). Don't expect the yield to be much using this method but new potatoes at Christmas should taste good.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 12 Aug 13 20:33
thanks foinaven think i will wait till next season for the spuds ,anything else i can plant now carrots ect?
By:
Foinavon
When: 12 Aug 13 21:04
It all depends if you want to harvest this year or next.
For this year options are running out and only fast growing veg like salad greens, radish and turnips stand any chance.
For next year you can plant spring cabbage now or garlic, broad beans and japanese onions next month.
You can also plant out perennial plants such as strawberries, rhubarb, blackcurrants etc provided you have space and like to eat them.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 13 Aug 13 07:13
Chinese Jack's proverb:
If you would be happy for a week, plant a garden;
if you would be happy for a month, kill a pig;
but if you would be happy all your life, kill the wife.

With apologies to Mrs H.

Great, ahem, potted advice on what we should be planting now Foinavon!
By:
Foinavon
When: 13 Aug 13 10:06
Thanks Jack. Best wishes to Mrs H.
There's a definite chill in the air this morning and the look of the veg garden will change as everything winds down and ripens for autumn. Will be going to the allotment soon to pick more beans and blackcurrants and check everything over for pests and disease.
By:
bongo
When: 14 Aug 13 22:04
This man seems happy
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAob-a0ixEY

After about two minutes you get used to the way the presenter Geordie Johnnie talks and then it becomes one of the most enjoyable allotment vids on youtube.
By:
666_v
When: 15 Aug 13 13:46
Is he the basis for Reeves & Mortimor's Stots?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKg1H9gHWng
By:
Foinavon
When: 16 Aug 13 21:20
Received my first blight alert from the Potato Council.
If you grow potatoes it's a good idea to sign up for alerts by email. It's free.
Here is the link to the Potato Council website.
http://www.potato.org.uk/fight-against-blight

I watched the vid Bongo. Seems a bit of a character and subtitles would be a good idea. The site is a bit of a tip though but it doesn't seem to bother him at all.
By:
Deltâ
When: 18 Aug 13 18:25
replanted [had started as seed in seed bed 4 weeks back ish]...

Cabbage
Sprouting Broccoli
Curly Kale


yes I know peps will say late - but they all go under enviro' mesh fleece and will be ready year end / early next  - when they should be if growing seasonally

the allotments all have their Cabbages etc [brassicas] ready and full to bursting now, whats that about, its still salad weather


the other half of me Brassicas [Swede, Brussels and Calabrese] went the same way about 3 weeks back and are coming along mighty fine, in between droopy sessions, which we all get! Wink


any one else busy away harvesting, weeding, planting? ...
By:
Foinavon
When: 18 Aug 13 18:52
The swedes I started end of July are growing really well now so thanks for that tip Delta.
Started spring cabbage a week ago in cells as previously posted and some seedlings are through already.
Curly kale sounds a good idea. I used to grow Pentland Brigg but can't find seed anymore as seed merchants have replaced them with more fashionable varieties such as cavolo nero (thanks to Gardeners' World).
Harvesting bags full of runner beans and french beans most of which are given to friends and neighbours through lack of storage space.
Early leeks (Tadorna) are ready for harvesting but will leave them for a few more weeks as we have more than enough veg to eat.
Outdoor tomatoes starting to ripen and have stripped off all the leaves to allow more light and to avoid catching blight.
Picked more blackcurrants and blueberries yesterday and made a blackcurrant and apple crumble.

Plenty of weeds as you suggest, just shearing off seed heads for now.
By:
Deltâ
When: 18 Aug 13 19:03
did 'we talk' sweetcorn spacings earlier in the season Foinavon?


remember the gist was spacing of 2ft by 2ft - after I had crammed them in 1ft by 6in - well touch wood look ok at the moment - first ones should be off next week so hopefully the cram' method has worked  - fingers crossed!


that curly kale kicks on Foin' and you can cut some off and more comes - seems a good 'un ...
By:
Foinavon
When: 18 Aug 13 19:12
Haven't grown sweetcorn for many years Delta. Trouble is on our site if you haven't got a decent cage then the rats and squirrels gnaw them as the start to ripen. You are right, seed merchants and garden books are far too generous in their spacing recommendations for most things. One of my neighbours grows sweetcorn in tight blocks as he only has a small cage. Seems to do well with them most years (not counting last year of course Cry)
Do you reckon that there is still time to sow Kale as I would be 4 weeks behind yours?
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