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Tia Sharp the 12 year old girl missing from South London.

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By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 15 Aug 12 16:29
By the way I'm not criticising your natural desire for vengeance. I'm just suggesting that you take into consideration your feelings now when others advocate getting medieval on scum who will remain scum and who are encouraged to be scum by a system which has no retributive force.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 16:29
You are too busy guessing EO.

As i said  let him out from Belmarsh for a day and let the family take care of him.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 15 Aug 12 16:31
Fine. If that is how you feel then you should be campaigning for that kind of eye for an eye justice for everybody.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 16:35
Perhaps Tia`s direct family would not chose the death penalty.
By:
blackburn1
When: 15 Aug 12 16:35
Real justice would be to let him out from Belmarsh for an a day and let the family take care of him.

Would this be the same family that let a machete wielding drug dealer look after the kids?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 16:35
EO

How would you feel if he was killed by a fellow inmate?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 16:41
Would this be the same family that let a machete wielding drug dealer look after the kids?


Caught in possession of the machete. Did he ever knife anyone?
By:
blackburn1
When: 15 Aug 12 16:46
Apologies, he was probably using it to peel apples for the people who scored from him.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 15 Aug 12 16:48
Angel

What relevance does it have how I feel? We are discussing your apparent volte face from being a mild mannered lets rehabilitate the scroat kind of guy into Mad Max.
By:
TELL DEL
When: 15 Aug 12 16:54
Couldn't care less what happens to him now, eye for an eye justice, what he deserves, that poor girl must have been so frightened.  And then on TV he says,  "I gave her a tenner for the garden which still ain't done"
By:
blackburn1
When: 15 Aug 12 16:55
Quite, from castigating me for advocating capital punishments to encouraging gangs of vigilantes.

I have to say gabrial this unimaginable tragedy has confirmed just how naive you are.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 16:55
EO were is you evidence that i have had a `turncoat` moment.

Never been involved in a discussion on it.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 16:56
Blacky i never disagreed with you on this subject. You are overtaking yourself on this.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 17:02
Quite, from castigating me for advocating capital punishments to encouraging gangs of vigilantes.

Are you mistaking me with another ? You seem desperate to make this stick.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 17:06
Your problem Blacky is that you stereotype everyone.
By:
blackburn1
When: 15 Aug 12 17:11
Gabriel you've made yourself look silly on this thread, from saying the family trusted a drug dealer to letting them have a day with him now.

If I were you I'd leave the thread and mourn this young girls death, we all know who was responsible but plenty of others have blood on their hands
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 15 Aug 12 17:15
Angel

To be fair to you it may be guilt by association. Whenever you are on the politics forum you associate yourself with the luvvies and on a variety of issues you castigate the raw meat chaps. I apologise if I have wrongly accused you of double standards on this issue.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 15 Aug 12 17:16
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh I'm a raw meat kinda guy and I will be appearing in a Soho club all this week.
By:
moisok
When: 15 Aug 12 17:38
I always say wait till it effects you then you may change your opinion on many things
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 18:13
Blackburn

At the start of the search for Tia, male family members were shaking the hand of SH and female members of the family were kissing him on the cheek, all in his support and against the press for hounding him.

How wrong they were, but this happens time and time again with family refusing to believe that person they trusted could be involved.

See they have seen all the kind things he had done for Tia over the 5 years or so. Of cause they are now simmering with rage.

So what was you saying again? Why you are using this thread to attempt to score points over me, sums you up.
By:
cj180
When: 15 Aug 12 18:41
Will Granny be subjected to the 'day justice' of the 'family'?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 18:47
Why what part did Christine play in Tia`s death?

Do you know more than the police?
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 15 Aug 12 18:53
Who doesn't?
By:
cj180
When: 15 Aug 12 18:55
Out on bail along with the neighbour.I suppose everything is so hunky dory with the 'family' that she's back at the homestead settling down for Emmerdale with them.
By:
skipthatstep
When: 15 Aug 12 18:58
what part did Christine play in Tia`s death?

Wow! there's a stupid question..
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 19:03
Skip

Answer it then?
By:
skipthatstep
When: 15 Aug 12 19:10
Know they cant charge her... But if i was her i'd take the guilt to my grave.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 19:15
Did Christine know SH was a potential child killer?
By:
skipthatstep
When: 15 Aug 12 19:17
The guy was filth! Dont say hindsight is 20/20... Who would leave their pretty prepubescent child in his care overnight?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 19:23
He had no previous for child abuse.

He had looked after her for 5 years and never gave any indication that he would harm her. Hindsight is 20/20. He was a con man and as i have mentioned before he would have been petrified of the males in the family, so he hid any indications very well.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 19:26
And Christine had no idea Tia had gone round to her house. Christine left for work 2 hours before.

Tia had a key.
By:
skipthatstep
When: 15 Aug 12 19:27
So are you saying Christines hand are clean here? No blame should be put on her?
By:
skipthatstep
When: 15 Aug 12 19:27
hands
By:
skipthatstep
When: 15 Aug 12 19:30
And Christine had no idea Tia had gone round to her house. Christine left for work 2 hours before.

Tia had a key.


ok.. Not guilty then.
By:
skipthatstep
When: 15 Aug 12 19:31
Not that I really believe that last post.. tbh.
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 15 Aug 12 19:31
I read that Tia went to the grandmother's house every weekend and often other times?

Is this not true.  Would it not have been reasonable for Christine to think Tia could go round when she wasn't there, especially if she had a key AND regularly went round?

I think so.

I'm not attacking you AG but you can't argue that Christine didn't know that Tia was ever left alone with Hazell, I'm afraid.
By:
A_T
When: 15 Aug 12 19:32
Sounds rather like Tia came and went as she pleased - and her mother wasn't entirely sure who she was with at any given time.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 19:33
AM

Tia spent every other weekend with her step gran and Christines house was more of a refuge.

Tia must have spent other nights there with SH of course.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 19:35
Correct A_T

Crrect that`s how it was, and it seems that the adults failed to communicate her whereabouts. That is irresponsible when you are talking a 12 year girl.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 15 Aug 12 19:40
Just to make it clear. If i had a 12 year old daughter, i would be making sure that if she was staying at her grans i would double check gran was going to be there for the night.
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