well watching the video ,He says I hoovered up the dog mess by the kitchen ,you dont hoover up dog mess ,Massive emphasis on phone being left ,why didnt he disconnect the phone and hide it ?

no honky  - I am just pointing out how the police go about their business - yet again - either very poor intelligence leading to action taken - time and time again - ironically leading to them now **** footing around over 'sensitive' issues if you follow my drift.  Difficult job of course - and in this case though seems they have been a bit short on savvy if I may say

ex copper on sky saying similar
an ex tec 
but they had another one in the studio (an ex commander) pouring cold water on criticism of police

^^ major crime to use the word pússy.

sh1t   that's me for it now !!!!!

scumbag family yes, but still a 12 year old murdered hasthisever

If they do Ivor I will no longer be able to visit you
or is this a cunning plan to do away with me!!!

Something to that Moisok. Having read quite a bit about the case of the Asian family, though, I think they were quite right on that occasion. They had what appeared to be a good tip-off and they acted on it. Quite often those tip-offs are enough to prevent something bad from happening. As long as they don't run around willy-nilly (which I don't think they have when it comes to general terrorism), I think we should be a little understanding towards them when the occasional mistake occurs. They can't always get it right, after all, and I'd rather they were slightly overzealous rather than a little too cautious and thus letting a terrorist plot go off successfully.

Having said that, this case this week appears to have been very poorly handled. Not finding the body days ago may turn out to be incompetence, and as for letting the obvious suspect get away....  I just hope he's already swinging somewhere.  (Although, having said that, I have just heard a scream outside my East London flat, so maybe he's hot-footed it over here!!)

seems the british medal haul taken off.

at least we are able to move on to other things but this family won't for a long time
a sad sad day

Naydam - your post is of course perfectly logical, however if detectives operated in this way they would solve very few crimes.

berto 77, great answer

Naydam, the police probably wouldn't have even been in the house searching for the body unless they had acted on instincts or clues.  He was free, but there were sufficient reasons for believing him to be possibly involved that the police should have been keeping a quiet eye on him.

if it is a young vulnerable girl at risk surely time is of the essence and ALL  lines of enquiries should be followed asap!!

It's a fair point (not made by anyone here!) that the body may have needed to decompose a little before the dogs could pick it up. The bout of sun over the last couple of days may have been the finishing touch that brought the dog squad into play.

surely if a girl is missing they have the authority to search!!??  or am I wrong - they have been busting open garages with crow bars

Those were members of the public Moisok.

The police do need at least a decent hunch before they rip somebody's house apart. If they do that and get it wrong, there'll be hell to pay.  Can you imagine the news headlines if an innocent couple had had their house dismantled by the police, having already suffered the tragedy of a child or grandchild going missing from their property?

Why's it his last elisjohn. Have you killed him?

Honkey, when someone dies, the muscles relax and the body releases waste and certain other smells almost immediately.  These are part of the smells the dogs can pick up.  Hence the ability of a cadaver dog to detect when a body has been in the proximity even though it has been moved very soon after i.e. before any decomp.

She was either detected immediately and for some reason the police didn't react (hoping to trap Hazell before he could flee?), or she was in the loft and this was sufficient distance to not allow the dogs to detect.  And the police didnt open the loft and pop the dog up there.

thats easy sorted Honky

Policeman
Hello can we take apart your house to look for your daughter

Gran/mum etc

Do what you need to do.

As a retired Policeman I find it odd that a body has been found in the home. We were trained to search the home thoroughly whenever a person was reported missing. But then perhaps the as yet unidentified body was killed elsewhere before being brought into the home after a Police search. Unlikely? Perhaps.