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*****Yeates Murder Case***** (Wed 5th Jan 2010)

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By:
Nirvana
When: 09 Jan 11 14:31
Interesting theory Clouseau (14.02 ost), but how do you account for the scream heard by two people outside? If Jo screamed when inside her flat, would they have heard her? But nobody inside the house heard a scream (or at least said that).

As for the theory of the killer wanting to 'spend some time' with Jo, do you think he kept her body for some time instead of dumping it that Friday night? If he'd dumped it that night, surely it would have been found long before Christmas Day.
By:
donny osmond
When: 09 Jan 11 14:46
killer may have intended "disposing" of body at rifle range, but changed plans when it started to snow, and "dumped" it elsewhere.
By:
harcon
When: 09 Jan 11 14:55
Clouseau has the perpetrator's profile spot-on imo. The screams heard by peessed partygoers are not worthwhile evidence... a red herring.
By:
GT
When: 09 Jan 11 14:56
I think maybe the body was dumped nearer Xmas Day than the Friday night. I think the heavy snow(hid the body) is being over played a bit..
By:
Clouseau
When: 09 Jan 11 15:17
Aceme put the profile up on Thursday.

Of course, if this has any credence then Plod put everyone away early doors by arresting the LL, clearing his flat looking for elusive DNA AND, most importantly, stressing that there was no increased risk to the general public which is police code for "we know who it is and are keeping a close eye on them".

So for the whole of the time the public were led to expect imminent charges the real perpetrator would be free to go about their normal business without the pressure of awkward questions and the general public's collective memory would be self erasing.... like the CCTV cameras!

I read in the Guardian website that they are lining up a spot on Crinewatch!
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Jan 11 15:26
whats happening with the landlord please ..
By:
LMansini
When: 09 Jan 11 15:37
hes being groomed for the hannibal role when anthony hopkins retires
By:
Whippet
When: 09 Jan 11 15:41
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345385/Police-urged-DNA-test-EVERY-man-Bristol-hunt-killer-Joanna-Yeates.html


Police obviously completely clueless, if this is what they are thinking of resorting to.
By:
1st time poster
When: 09 Jan 11 16:02
interesting what most on here including me thought that they new the culprit and were just waiting for the nod to charge him,only 2 people who didnt think this and give rather wierd statements whilst the LL was arrested were the girls father and boyfriend,saying rather strangely for me that they were confident eventualy the police would get the right man,as though they new it wasnt the LL or new who it was
By:
Aunty Post
When: 09 Jan 11 16:06
Please check out this photo which is cobbled up, from god knows what images, and "photo shopped" to death!

If you are unable to see, the subtle anomalies, just look at the glaring black outline, to the right of the image, of Jo's mother!

Then look deeper into the light sources and shadows etc.

You cannot believe any photographic image published today!

Funnily enough, my son has the most credible looking image of himself, today, on Facebook, with the most amazing pumped up physique!

If you didn't know better you would think it was really him!
By:
Darren Lamb
When: 09 Jan 11 16:09
^

what are you going on about?
By:
Desatron
When: 09 Jan 11 16:13
what photo?
By:
Aunty Post
When: 09 Jan 11 16:14
I was referring to the link from Whippet.

It is a contrived photo!
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 09 Jan 11 16:19
How about locking everybody up in Bristol and release them all one by one each day until it happens again and then you will know who did it. (Guilty until proven innocent)hth
By:
Aunty Post
When: 09 Jan 11 16:19
The parents were obviously somewhere sunny.

Look at their complexions and the light on their foreheads.

Jo and her brother were, perhaps, not even together here.

All of the images have been edited to make one picture!

I'm sorry, but if you can't see that, there is no hope for any of us!
By:
mrbadger
When: 09 Jan 11 16:19
I'm confused aunty - I can't see any black outline?  Confused
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 09 Jan 11 16:20
which picture?
By:
leazes67
When: 09 Jan 11 16:20
just looks like shadow to me...and why edit a family photo?
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 09 Jan 11 16:20
i got it whippets link
By:
Darren Lamb
When: 09 Jan 11 16:20
who are we looking for in the picture?
By:
inmyopinion
When: 09 Jan 11 16:20
used link to look for the photo but says sorry this has been deleted
By:
mrbadger
When: 09 Jan 11 16:21
why would they cobble a picture together anyway?
By:
Clouseau
When: 09 Jan 11 16:23
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345385/Police-urged-DNA-test-EVERY-man-Bristol-hunt-killer-Joanna-Yeates.html


Police obviously completely clueless, if this is what they are thinking of resorting to


Yet another non story from Fleey Street's finest that gets twisted by someone into the police thinking of DNA testing everyone.

Whilst the police might be clueless, in actual fact the "story" says "Kerry McCarthy, Labour MP for Bristol East, wants swabs to be taken from the entire male population - around 250,000 people."

OK so how do you actually go about doing that?

And are you certain that, even if matched to something it would result in a conviction?

What do you define as "the entire male population" of Bristol?

How do you define "Bristol"? Which areas constitute Bristol? For example, does Failand, where Joanna's body was found, fall into your definition of Bristol or is it actually in Somerset? If so, does the rest of Somerset fall into your definition of the entire male population of Bristol?

Have you defined the age range of males you want swabs for, and what are your criteria?

Are you including people who live outside Bristol and commute to work there? If not, why not?

Are you including people who may have travelled to Bristol recently? If so please define which dates are included and which are excluded.

Are you including people who may have travelled through Bristol but not stopped? If not are you looking for corroboration that they didn't stop?

What if they stopped at a service station on the M5? Should they be included because who is to know they didn't enter "Bristol", with or without stopping, at any stage of their journey?

Who is going to pay for the taking of these DNA swabs? and how long are you going to keep them?

How are you going to dispose of them, securely?

If you get no positive results from the male sample will you therefore continue to do the same for the female population?
By:
inmyopinion
When: 09 Jan 11 16:24
it worked this time but don't see whats wrong with photo...except rubbish birthday cake.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 09 Jan 11 16:29
Doesn't look faked to me, and I do photo manipulation for a job - what are you suggesting has been changed?
By:
brendanuk1
When: 09 Jan 11 16:29
One things for certain in all this Chris Jeffries is one weird looking fella
By:
1st time poster
When: 09 Jan 11 16:30
its crimes like these when people should tell the lilly liberals to do one and there should be steps taken to have a national dna database, imagine the reduction in overall crime if people thought their chances off getting caught had been greatly reduced
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 09 Jan 11 16:32
lol read that back to yourself!
By:
Aunty Post
When: 09 Jan 11 16:38
Guys... I was trying to make it easy for you without being patronising!

The whole picture is wrong and, believe me, this is my field!

Where did you ever see a shadow, like under the mothers arm, as a black outline?

I mentioned this, only, as I thought it would be the easiest thing to see.

If you can't see that then you will not see anything else!

It isn't really relevant, to the solving of this case, but just another example of the way we can be fooled by the press!

Anyway I am not here, to confront the CCDI, but just to offer hope that the perpetrator will be caught very soon.

If the CCDI can't solve it then nobody can!
By:
brendanuk1
When: 09 Jan 11 16:43
Lots of issues with DNA, try this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Heilbronn
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 09 Jan 11 16:47
Generally shadows are dark and are outside the object, as with the photo.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 09 Jan 11 16:57
Yes, how very true, but a shadow has to be sympathetic with, and falling on another object, and not a hard black line in open space!
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 09 Jan 11 17:28
It's not in open space, it's on a cupboard/wall and it's neither black nor hard (aw yeah). Only about 70%K in my estimation and it's darkest although it varies in tone, again as you'd expect.
By:
Kingmambo
When: 09 Jan 11 17:31
How do you know it's open space?  Could be any number of things creating that backdrop.  Similarly, don't you think the parents might say something along the lines of "hang on, can't remember that photo".  Wtf has the paper got to gain by manipulating or creating such a photo?
By:
curious-cat
When: 09 Jan 11 17:52
stop bloody posting !

everytime I come on chit chat I've at least 200 posts to read through [;)]
By:
Facts
When: 09 Jan 11 18:19
Photo doesn't look right imo.
Definite 'smudging' behind brothers left ear - and around mothers head. Suggests  background from original photo has been erased. Looks crudely done.
By:
Easter 1916
When: 09 Jan 11 18:28
Maybe the airbrusher at the Sun should be called in for questioning. Is anything to do with the photo relevant?
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 09 Jan 11 19:39
This thread is dying a death Sad RIP
By:
wur
When: 09 Jan 11 20:11
Has anyone else noticed how Joanna Yeates looks like several different persons in her photos? Hmmm.
By:
wur
When: 09 Jan 11 20:19
It sounds too fantastic . . . I'll need to uncover more information.
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