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*****Yeates Murder Case***** (Wed 5th Jan 2010)
*****Yeates Murder Case***** (Wed 5th Jan 2010)
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From earlier threads I seem to remember the two bottles of cider cost over £4 which looking at bargain booze products makes it likely they were something like fruit/pear cider, which to me makes me think they were for herself.
A bloke would probably be expecting a few stella's etc, unless the bloke would be bringing his own |
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Rocket to the FACE
"What happened to the Rifle Club and keeping the body there before moving it ?" Her body could have been stored there before being dumped (?) Police believe she was killed sometime over the weekend, but her body was not discovered until a week later. So the killer could have hid her body before taking the opportunity to dump her in the days before Christmas. But if that theory is right, would surely only leave a short-list of suspects (?) And also rule out a random killer, as you say he is not likely to drive her body about is he. |
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The obvious suspect in the rifle club scenario would be the neighbour but anyone local may have known it was shut down.
The strangest aspects for me: * Taking the body out of the house * Going to the trouble of driving it at least 3 miles and then leaving it in plain site when another few feet would have meant possibly nobody would find it for a long time I wonder if by the time he got to dumping the body his mentality was totally different. No longer a cold blooded killer but somebody totally sh*tting themselves. |
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Think the amount of booze available is a red herring.
Killer would have to have been driving as body needed to be transported. Now,if Joanna was killed in the flat, either he was reasonably sober and was capable of wiping all DNA traces from flat and transporting the body without causing any fuss or he was lashed and very, very lucky that, not only did he leave the flat clean but also that he didn't cause an accident or arouse suspicion from erratic driving. One thing still puzzles about timings on that Friday.... The Bargain Booze/ Post Office (between 20:24 and 20:29) seems to be only about 100 yards from Tesco Express(20:40).... OK not a huge gap but that's quite a long time for such a short distance and, (I stand to be corrected) but it was a smallish single floor job and not a huge out of town Supermarket. Could have been texting etc on the short journey to cause slight delay, could also have gone past it a bit then doubled back, but there are also CCTV cameras in the street. It always amazes me how many CCTV camers there are in the UK but none of them ever seem to be working when they are actually needed.  |
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^ I don't know, complete mystery, very complex.
Most likely reason for taking the body out the house and driving a few miles away, to put distance from the crime scene, and very unusual location to dump a body, so very possible the intention was to dump her body in the quarry, but got disturbed or panicked. Because why drive long way to a spot like that and just dump her at the roadside. Clifton Downs is only very short distance from her flat, so could have gone there. But drives 3 miles away and very likely for the quarry. |
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I think between the two she was on the phone to her friend Rebecca so she may have stood still to talk.
If not then it is a long time to cover such a short distance. Maybe she stopped to chat to somebody,. |
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oo dunnit then ?
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Think the bottom line is chaps,our wonderful policemen havent got a fecking clue,exept when it comes to harrasing motorists
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about as much use as you lot then
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Sporty neighbour and boyfriend joint favs, now.
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11/10 the pair, 10s bar.
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My money's still on the boyfriend
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is the sporty neighbourthe one with the landrover?
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Owns a jeep, is the assistant coach at Clifton College rifle club and has a fascination with hovercrafts. Likes to mess about in home made ones (I found that on the Internet). Can't find anything about him being in a rowing club.
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They'll probably bring the sniffer dogs to the rifle club sometime next month at the current rate of progression..
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I don't think i like the sound of him and i wouldn't like to go out for a drink with him either
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THIS UNIT IS THE ESSENCE OF DR SLICER WOT HAS BEEN PRESERVED.
To solve this murder one must think outside the box! Most murders are committed by partners, relations or aquaintances. The other aspect of most murder cases is that the police rely on information from the public. If there is no info the case just does not get solved-think of the Jill Dando case. As each hour goes by the trail gets colder and colder. I sincerely hope the murderer is caught, but day by day it appears less likely if the police have eliminated the partner, family and aquaintances. The moral to murders is that strangers often get away with it! This posting is being delivered by mechanical means from the essence of Dr Slicer PhD MB BS B Pharm MRCVS DRCOG Cert BhD |
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I agree with the essence of dr slicer wot has been preserved
and green willow |
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I expect the rozzers are keeping a close eye on this thread
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you ain't seen me - right
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The neighbour looks like the sort of guy who would knife the paper boy for stepping on his lawn
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Here's a pic of him
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01795/stanley_1795337b.jpg |
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If i was a doctor called Slicer i would change my name, sorry but a name like that talking about murder just conjures up bad images.
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he doesn't look like much of a smiler
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he experiments in the slums of Mumbai. He nose wot he's talking about
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did he 3 bet them though?Do you get me?
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the text to the long lost friend intrigues me.....
suppose she got a bit amorous with him when they met 18months before, at a party or something. so she texts him and says something like: "hey big boy, remember me? My bf is away this weekend, fancy coming over for some fun....? my address is......" he reads the text, and comes round, expecting more than he gets...they eat the pizza....he makes a move that gets rejected and it all gets out of hand... a wild theory, but certainly possible given what we know..... |
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Just to say that I don't think 'storing' the body is plausible, especially in a location so near the apparent crime scene. The first instinct would surely be to get physical distance between self and corpse.
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might not have been a corpse still dont know where killed
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I can't be having the theory that Joanna invited a bloke back to the flat to share the pizza without telling bf who she was inviting.
I know you can't account for what people do when they have had a couple of drinks but she seems to have been an intelligent girl and with bf only leaving area at 7pm or thereabouts and people being advised not to travel because of the weather there would be enough of a chance that he would have to abandon his journey a short way into it and turn back... would take a lot of explaining. Am beginning to come around strongly to the weird stalker theory.... (think it was ACEME who described potential scenario very well a couple of days ago), who followed her home and turned up at the door very shortly after she arrived in. Things turn bad very quickly and he kills her but takes pizza along with body so he can "share a meal" with her etc.... |
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brendanuk1 09 Jan 11 13:33
".......still dont know where killed" The huge amount of forensic effort at the flat would suggest police believe that is where Jo died, even bringing in chemicals to the flat rather than sending items to the lab., seems they have gone for last resort trying to get trace evidence. |
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This is getting beyond frustrating now!
More thoughts from me....... The official line is that she was killed in the flat. Why would a stranger feel the need to remove her from there? How would he do it? Isn't that a shade risky as he would have to have a vehicle parked, either on the road (maybe not that close either) or on the driveway to the left of the property (suicidal)!! The easy way to remove the body was, in the relative seclusion to the rear, and heading for the rifle range. But a stranger could not have known this and worked out such a strategy. |
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THIS UNIT IS THE ESSENCE OF DR SLICER WOT HAS BEEN PRESERVED.
Quality Mr Armstrong and Mr Flea- sheer quality! This posting is being delivered by mechanical means from the essence of Dr Slicer PhD MB BS B Pharm MRCVS DRCOG Cert BhD |
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The body was not removed from flat to distance the crime from the flat but so that the stalker could "spend some time" with the object of his affections.
That is why all of Jo's belongings are still in there... bf/ll/neighbour would at least try to take bag or keys to try to distance murder scene from flat. Stalker was known to Joanna but he knew more about her than she did of him.... he idolised from afar, she was probably mostly unaware of him. Maybe only knew each other tangentially but he was obsessed. When he turns up at door she recognises him so doesn't think immediate threat but behaves in an offhandish manner which he takes as offense to as she has been the object of his affections for a while and he can't understand why feelings aren't reciprocated. Looking for loner with a car.... The short prices about bf/ll and neighbour are all mine and you can have as much as you like about them. |
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Clouseau 09 Jan 11 12:15
It always amazes me how many CCTV camers there are in the UK but none of them ever seem to be working when they are actually needed. ---------------------------------- Agree with that, but the problem here was that by the time Plod got round to asking for pictures of the area around the house, they had been deleted. Add this to the delays in saying a sock was missing and in searching the area around the house, and you can only conclude that A&S Plod are useless. |
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The first thing cops should have done when she went missing was looked for cctv cameras on her route home.
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I'll bet you all read those paperback books with a rose in one corner!
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cctv owners are as much to blame. Apathetic idiots.
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Indeed.... instead of a national DNA register they could start with a national register of CCTV cameras!
A Plod version of TomTom..... :/ |
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Look at the strange death of Gareth Williams, the Mi6 code breaker, who was found in a holdall in his Pimlico flat. Murder can be a very strange business.
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