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*****Yeates Murder Case***** (Wed 5th Jan 2010)

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By:
Ramruma
When: 08 Jan 11 20:39
Since the boyfriend has a cast-iron alibi based on credit card payments for petrol, cctv footage and his mobile phone whereabouts, backers need to rely on the official timeline being drastically wrong.

He is certainly not 1.01.
By:
Off the toe
When: 08 Jan 11 20:46
Wur - The last book I saw on this (on this thread) had the bf at 20's...I'd be a player at that price..too much still doesn't add up for him to be at that price.

I'd have a saver on the neighbour to cover my stake on bf...
By:
mr winkle
When: 08 Jan 11 21:15
SILL NOT SOLVED ?
By:
kruger76
When: 08 Jan 11 21:16
07 Jan 11 22:51
agree with your post entirely sandysboy, I'm topping up on the bf at fancy prices with a saver on the neighbour at not so fancy prices!

well that's this one solved then, what next?
By:
Crisp77
When: 08 Jan 11 21:17
Kruger76 - shergar cold case
By:
kruger76
When: 08 Jan 11 21:20
Shergar faked own abduction and committed horsey suicide Sad

Next Cool
By:
'Ace' Rothstein
When: 08 Jan 11 22:17
I'm still betting without the BF.

All this about his CC receipts, mobile phone signal and CCTV of his journey may be true but I'm yet to here it from the Plod so I'm dubious.

And I'll repeat what I said on the original thread...
If any normal person travelled the distance he did in those conditions, the partner would make some effort to ensure safety. Having not done so, on your return from said journey you would either be seething, that your loved one didn't care or worried something was wrong with them (or both).
You certainly wouldn't wait 4 hours, (seeing the cat had **** all over the flat) then ring your Mum followed by the Plod.

Now we also have the possibility that he knew Joanna contacted ex 'freinds' at random times. Perhaps she got home and he read the text she had sent on the way home ?
By:
wur
When: 08 Jan 11 22:28
I'm one of those strange folk who've never owned a mobile phone. Could he have checked her mobile ans seen the message she sent to another man? Very good point, if so.
By:
YeahIknow
When: 08 Jan 11 22:34
Could the cops not find what mobile numbers were in the area of the body dumping by historic triangulation, or is this far-fetched?
What cast iron alibi does the BF have in terms of where was he was? Possible he returned unofficially?
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 08 Jan 11 22:37
Mr Winkle, I believe they're struggling to find a window of opportunity before framing someone.
By:
johnizere
When: 08 Jan 11 22:42
My imagination running riot again..
All this about his CC receipts, mobile phone signal and CCTV of his journey may be true

The CAR was seen on cctv.. the CC receipts show time/date/location.. but are there cctv images of the person doing the transactions at the service stations?

What if... someone else drove the car to Sheffield?
That would implicate the brother and his wife, as they have confirmed being with the boyfriend in Sheffield at the time, and they have been silenced by the police, if I remember correctly (told to say nothing).
Have they been cleared of any involvement in this case?
By:
'Ace' Rothstein
When: 08 Jan 11 22:43
wur     08 Jan 11 22:28 
I'm one of those strange folk who've never owned a mobile phone. Could he have checked her mobile ans seen the message she sent to another man? Very good point, if so.


Yes wur....she walks in, puts bag on table, takes off coat and shoes. Pizza into oven and a quick slurp of cider then off for a pish. BF picks up mobile and sees a text to another man which she forgot to delete (as she wasn't expecting him to be in the flat when she returned)
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 08 Jan 11 22:51
Very, VERY rare for more than one person to be involved in a crime of passion.
By:
pumphol.
When: 08 Jan 11 22:53
Still they bang on about the boyfriend Shocked
By:
wur
When: 08 Jan 11 23:05
Well, it seems to be believed that she was killed on Friday evening, although there is no evidence (in the public domain) for this. She was last seen on Friday, but she could have had a quiet weekend and still been alive when the boyfriend returned on Sunday.

The one rather significant bit of evidence which conflicts with this is the half drunk bottle of cider. But it would explain the missing pizza - she could have put it in an outside bin. And it's just possible she might not have opened the cider until Sunday.

The police don't seem to have issued any evidence of texts/phone calls made after Friday. Doesn't mean there weren't any, of course. So, if it was the boyfriend, what is there to rule out that he returned on Sunday, read her message to her male friend, flew into a rage and strangled her on Sunday?
By:
wur
When: 08 Jan 11 23:10
However, for that scenario to be tenable, the boyfriend would have had to have been very lucky that there weren't any sightings of her/messages sent by her on Sunday, indicating that she was probably alive when he returned. That, of course, would nail him.
By:
pumphol.
When: 08 Jan 11 23:14
For the boyfriend to have done it & not have been arrested by now would make  him 1.01 to be innocent in my book.
By:
zilzal1
When: 08 Jan 11 23:16
And according to the papers, she phoned her friend on friday as well.

The possibility that a woman would NOT use a mobile for 2 days is in fantasy land
By:
wur
When: 08 Jan 11 23:22
Stranger things have happened
By:
leazes67
When: 08 Jan 11 23:23
just an idea on narrowing down time of murder/abduction....if the electricity supplier can show how much electricty was used from 8-30 pm (when jo returned) on the friday to when the B/F returned(on the sunday).ie if very little was used it would indicate that it was indeed on friday evening when jo was taken.I may be talking bolllox but you never know.
By:
pumphol.
When: 08 Jan 11 23:23
Cannot think of one.
By:
Crisp77
When: 08 Jan 11 23:25
An 'expert' has done a bit in the Mirror

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/01/09/who-did-joanna-yeates-share-pizza-with-115875-22835719/

Makes a good point about the pub CCTV showing how she interacted with her work mates, maybe he suspects part of the group.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 08 Jan 11 23:25
For the boyfriend to have done it & not have been arrested by now would make  him 1.01 to be guilty in my book.The clue? That he'd done it. I rest my case m'luv.
By:
kruger76
When: 08 Jan 11 23:30
fair comment leazes67, but given that the investigation has centred on the flat for the most part you would hope that checking the utilities supplier(s), phone landline, etc would be carried out by the police as a matter of course.

Apologies, what am I thinking, this is the British police we're talking about.....let's get straight round there lads!
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 08 Jan 11 23:37
You know what, I haven't got a scoobies!
By:
naydam
When: 08 Jan 11 23:51
Reading these posts reminds me of the kids game of 'Pin the Tail on the Donkey'! Grin
By:
pumphol.
When: 08 Jan 11 23:55
Somewhere round the back I reckon
By:
Aceme
When: 09 Jan 11 00:00
Dai Davies, former Metropolitan Police Detective Chief Superintendant


"I find it strange Jo left the pub so early on a Friday night when all she was going back to was an empty flat".

gvl will be seething, even the top cops are alco`s Happy

He has the theory that most favoured before the LL was implicated. She was going to meet someone else, pretty sharp this guy.
By:
mr winkle
When: 09 Jan 11 00:37
SOLVED IT YET ?
By:
wur
When: 09 Jan 11 05:49
Beginning to think that she may well have phoned/sent texts after Friday, but the plod are not giving out this info. Why did it take so long for it to come out that she texted a guy around 8.20 on the Friday? The police must have known about this ages ago. They are drip feeding the public with little snippets of info. It's even possible she was sighted after Friday, but the police have asked the witnesses not to reveal this.
By:
Get me a drink
When: 09 Jan 11 07:56
Maybe they wanted to exhaust this line of enquiry before releasing the info?

Got to be odds on now that this case will go unsolved Sad
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 09 Jan 11 08:07
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When: 08 Jan 11 23:51
Reading these posts reminds me of the kids game of 'Pin the Tail on the Donkey'! Grin

Naydam You hit the nail on the head with that one Grin Absolutely spot on !
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 09 Jan 11 08:14
You never know the murderer might turn himself in because of the  massive 'guilt on' about it ! He needs to turn himself in badly
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 09 Jan 11 09:00
What happened to the Rifle Club and keeping the body there before moving it? Seemed the most likely to me. Get a cadaver dog in and see if he picks anything up. Imagine the police have already done that though. Although if it took them 3 weeks to check the drains and questions motorists in the area it does make you wonder.
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 09 Jan 11 09:06
That ex fuzzy muff in the Mirror says:

And when I walked into the Bargain Booze where she stopped, I wondered why she bought TWO small bottles of cider.

That strikes me as something she would do if she had made last-minute plans to meet another person.



There's no way she bought two 330ml bottles of cider if she was planning on having a guy around. If I got invited round to a birds on a weekend evening I'd be utterly dismayed if she presented me with 1 tiny bottle of cider. The least I'd expect would be a 4 pack of lager which is standard fair for a girl buying for a guy IMO but even then I'd suggest we go out and get more Mischief
By:
leazes67
When: 09 Jan 11 09:25
theory number 432....few drinks in pub
1.5 mile walk home= 40 mins
gonna be bursting for the toilet
opens door..phone,keys etc placed on table
dashes to toilet
front door not closed............
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 09 Jan 11 09:36
Good theory.

The most confusing bits for me isn't how she came to meet her killer but why he did what he did after she was dead i.e move the body, drive it around, dump it in a potentially brill site but in a way that it would certainly be found, missing pizza and sock etc.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 09 Jan 11 09:55
What about the gf instead of bf. On phone could have arranged whatever. 2 girl size bottles?

Could the cops not find what mobile numbers were in the area of the body dumping by historic triangulation, or is this far-fetched?

Dont think they hold historical records of every mobile at every minute of every day. They keep records when we send recieve texts & calls. If you recieved a call text then they can pinpoint you for that second. They cant otherwise (i think)
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 09 Jan 11 09:59
Two girls having a night in would get a bottle of wine in surely.

Two 330ml bottles isn't enough for two people, boys or girls.

Mind you, the Daily Mail said they were 500ml bottles which is a little more realistic especially if the guest was driving.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 09 Jan 11 10:21
not much new info comming out
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