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*****Yeates Murder Case***** (Wed 5th Jan 2010)
*****Yeates Murder Case***** (Wed 5th Jan 2010)
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you wouldn't last long as a killer
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done ok so far
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sandysboy -- that profile (leaving aside the question of its accuracy) does not fit just one person. It potentially fits all men between 20 and 30 in the greater Bristol area, since if we take out the stuff about planning and socks, we are left with "young man".
Even if we assume Joanna knew her murderer, she'd have known men from work, the gym, the rowing club and so on. |
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You can almost tell that something is going to come out as soon as the parents say anything:
1) Parents "It wasn't unusual for GR and JY to not communicate for long periods" Result - Story breaks that they hadn't spoke all weekend. 2) Parents "She only saw 1 bloke at a time and always ended up friends if relationship fails" Result - Story breaks that she had sent a text to another bloke" Totally understandable for their parents to stick up for their daughter in the situation...just that it gives you a flavour of what is going to happen next I feel.... |
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cold temps aside , 2 days to confirm this was a killing and murder,no outward signs of struggle or signs of murder,if these facts given by police ae true surely we can rule out stranglition by a struggle or by a ligature or sock
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Forgot to add she almost certainly knew her killer
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"He then strangled her and removed the sock, for his own perverse gratification." if he took anything for that reason don't think it would have been a sock, and the sock was probably not the murder weapon either, surely a bit more likely the sock was used to gag her. |
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The article kind of paints a different picture of Joanna. Left alone for the weekend to organise a party and bake mince pies. Now she is inviting a man she hasn't seen for 18months out for a drink, and by text message, very odd.She had been living in the area for two months and only decides to contact this guy when the b/f goes away for the weekend.
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Aceme I too find that very strange. We're not getting the whole story over this.
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The article kind of paints a different picture of Joanna. Left alone for the weekend to organise a party and bake mince pies. Now she is inviting a man she hasn't seen for 18months out for a drink, and by text message, very odd.She had been living in the area for two months and only decides to contact this guy when the b/f goes away for the weekend.
And she often never replied to bf's texts  Sun story is leaking information known for 2 weeks for purpose of muddying waters and reducing interest in case imo |
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ramruna
only one of the 20-30 year olds that she knew would need to remove the body from the flat. |
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very odd.....of all the people she could have invited round that evening, girfriends, work colleagues from the pub, why would this guy she hadn't seen for 18 months 'suddenly' pop into her mind?
I wonder too if the police had revealed this info at an earlier stage to her family and bf...it certainly would help to explain the bf's perceived 'strange' attitude after she was found? But as ever, this is still all guesswork as we probably still have about 5-6% of all the relevant info at best! :-( |
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They were having a party for friends on the Tuesday, I would guess work colleagues and people they have befriended in their two months in Bristol, yet this guy living around the corner that she has known for years obviously wasn't invited, but she turns to him as soon as the b/f is out the door for the weekend.Now as the magic flea say we aren't living in the 1930`s, but as a guy if my g/f had done that i would not be happy, why hadnt she introduced us or invited this bloke around before or out for a social evening. The b/f obviously knows nothing about this bloke.
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It's not at all odd to text an old friend after a few beers, and please note that almost of The Sun story is suppositions based on an anonymous source (NOT the person she called) and the odd fact it does contain is wrong. They use the term 'final text' to suggest desperation when in fact fifteen minutes later she had an entirely normal conversation with another friend. There's no story here at all.
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the sun does it again.....
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TD and others.....what I am saying is he has a foot fetish, not a blasted sock fetish!
It's the fact that, some don't grasp that, there are people out there like this, which makes you think it can't be so! Why was the other girl, from the 70s, missing her shoes, do you think! |
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Whatever the outcome, hope this doesn't remain an unsolved murder.
There is 25 long-term unsolved murders linked to the Bristol area. |
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sparkmaster
It probably is sensationalism, but if there is any truth in it i think it is odd. Wouldn't be odd if they had been in contact since they moved to Bristol and the b/f had met him, but that's not the case so its odd imo, especially after 18 months. Could he be an ex lover as well as her brothers mate? |
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TMF, bit of a throwaway line about the 1930's imo
From my (Limited) experience of younger people all kind of $hit seems to erupt nowdays, esp with the availability of social networking sites, i find it odd that this was his "First proper" Girlfriend at his age(again just reading media though) so by that account he wasn't all that experienced at relationships. |
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it was coming up to christmas, she probably had a bit to drink and got nostalgic after she left the pub. So contacting some-one from the past that lives close by is not out of the ordinary
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Interesting thing is the Sun haven't sensationalised this story about the text. Most unlike them.
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Aceme, did they move to Bristol two months ago or just to their current flat?
Looking at my phone, there's lots of people on there I've not seen for ages, but might well text when passing the time walking home etc, including a girl who lives about 400 yards away...it's the modern age for you! I'm not saying there definitely wasn't anything vaguely flirty about the text, just that I don't think it holds any significance. ALL the girls I know are a lot more sociable when their bfs are away because, obviously they have a lot more free time and nobody to pay them attention. |
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aceme - i know they only moved into the flat 2 months ago, but are you absolutely sure they actually only moved to bristol then too? i find it weird the bf has said he's all nostalgic about their time in bristol, she had apparently already got very involved with the rowing club and so on, all within 2 months.
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sparkmaster posted while i was typing lol
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If Aunty Post is right, and we are looking for a psychopathic foot fetishist, then the obvious question is, why only two murders 36 years apart?
Has the killer been living elsewhere for the past three decades? It might be worth trawling through national crime reports. Otherwise, it does just look like coincidence. |
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thought the sun had decided who had done this last week
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Nor is acting innocent whilst having away matches out of the ordinary either!!
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In the great scheme of things it makes no difference, but if true it may indicate that Jo wouldn't be adverse to the attention of another man if the opportunity arose and he took her fancy.Its not like she needed company she had just left a crowded pub where she could have stayed.Sparmaster i like to think im well clued up with social networking, none the less i think that's odd and if she was my g/f i wouldnt be happy about that at all, cant think many guys would be, she was supposed to be making mince pies not meeting another guy.
I know they relocated and moved to the flat in October when they landed jobs at the same firm. I think this is the first time they have lived together, not sure where they lived before. |
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One retired detective was asked for his views on the case in local paper:
"The reason these murders get cleared up in a huge number of cases is not because of DNA, CCTV or criminal profilers. It is the fact the murderers are often related , or a friend, or known to victim, so it becomes quite easy to identify who the main suspects are." |
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The Sun: "The text was uncovered as part of a huge sweep of mobile phone and computer records."
Obvious bollux the final communications from her mobile would have been some of the first things the police obtained. |
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Bollux - The Sun ?- shock horror !!!
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All the girls I know and their partners would have no concerns whatsoever about them going for a drink with another male friend. Why would they? This isn't Victorian England!
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Would you have had any concerns when you were a lot younger Sparky though?? Say when you were in your Twenties and with the 1st serious girlfriend
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sparkmaster
Its not a problem, its the fact that if true it was obviously deceptive. |
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as a general thought,ive no idea and never lived in a block or community flat situation like this,but wouldnt you have thought in 200 grand flats like these,there would be cctv camera,s and security camera,s inside and outside,especialy since landlord ran the neighbourhood watch scheme
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The text apparently asked the guy out for a drink, not just "hi hows it going" After 18 months i think the latter would be more normal.
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zilzal, depending on the guy and the nature of their friendship I might have had, but I'd still have accepted it as a perfectly normal thing to do. There's any number of girls I go for drinks with, I doubt their boyfriends lose much sleep over it.
Aceme - obviously deceptive how? |
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Tell Dell's notion of the sock being used to gag Joanna fits with the reports from two separate witnesses of hearing screams.
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I have to agree with Aceme here, boyfriend away, girl goes for a drink after work and decides to text another fella whilst not replying to me. Im quite open minded and it was a fella from work or rowing etc then its probably normal but not seen him for 18 months? I dont believe the sun leaked text story but IF that is what happened i think most b/f would not be too pleased
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There's any number of girls I go for drinks with, I doubt their boyfriends lose much sleep over it.
Thats probably because they know you'll be in no fit state after six litres of cider  |