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*****Yeates Murder Case***** (Wed 5th Jan 2010)

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By:
Easter 1916
When: 09 Jan 11 20:28
She's not Maddie if that's what you're getting at.
By:
Clouseau
When: 09 Jan 11 20:32
Stretch.... the case has been solved. Please see above.

Unfortunately there then appeared some posts concerning whether or not an irrelevant photograph had been airbrushed or not.

Think the perpetrator's profile has been nailed but sadly we don't have the information that the A&S Plod has so we can't actually name the suspect.

A&S Plod tried to throw us off track by arresting Chris Jeffries, impounding the contents of his flat, implying it was one of 3 runners and they could do it all by themselves but I think we have seen beyond that and although shackled by the fact that A&S police kept practically all the known information to themselves, I think we have it sussed.
By:
A_T
When: 09 Jan 11 20:47
BF's tearful televised appeal has vanished from the interweb. Don't believe me - try and find it!
By:
wur
When: 09 Jan 11 20:53
Can anyone suggest a watertight reason why she could not have been killed after the boyfriend arrived back on Sunday?
By:
Crisp77
When: 09 Jan 11 20:54
Don't think the b/f ever did a verbal TV appeal. He was just filmed crying in front of the cameras.
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 09 Jan 11 20:56
was it a cryathon?
By:
Crisp77
When: 09 Jan 11 20:58
Yes. 1:01 on the video Plain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNRwwOmvchg
By:
brendanuk1
When: 09 Jan 11 20:59
tearful bf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNRwwOmvchg&t=1m0s
By:
travelling man
When: 09 Jan 11 21:02
This woman saying all bristol men should be DNA tested to find the killer.
Who's to say she wasn't killed by a woman??
By:
Latalomne
When: 09 Jan 11 21:21
Aunty - the picture's from 7 years ago and is either a scanned print or is from a pretty primitive digital camera.  The shadow is clearly being caused by the use of flash (probably the reflection just to the right of the father's head as you look at the photo) and the softness could be down to a slow shutter speed, shallow depth of field or a combination of the two.  It's just a rubbish quality photo.
By:
TELL DEL
When: 09 Jan 11 21:25
casemoney 09 Jan 11 15:26

"whats happening with the landlord please .."

on local news tonight, apparently he is still a suspect,
but he is considering taking legal action against some newspapers,
didn't say which papers - but obviously The Sun will be one of 'em !
By:
pumphol.
When: 09 Jan 11 21:27
travelling man     09 Jan 11 21:02 
This woman saying all bristol men should be DNA tested to find the killer.
Who's to say she wasn't killed by a woman??



Who is to say that they actually have any DNA at all !!
By:
Psychic Mutley
When: 09 Jan 11 21:28
If the Police get allowed to forcibly take a DNA sample from every bloke in Bristol, I shall be joining the inevitable protests. The precedent set would be morally wrong.

If they did manage to find the killer like this, then we'd be one step closer to a national DNA database. A massive step towards a true police state.

Some of you will say "yes, but if it finds the killer it was worth it" but that's a massive claim. A logical step from that might be to electronically tag everyone. You'd possibly reduce crime like that too, but wher do we draw the line? Why not just lock everyone up in their own cell? Murder reduce to near-xzero almost overnight.

How about the 'If you've got nothing to hide you've nothing to fear' claim? Again, very scary. How about having a police officer following your every move? I mean, if you've got nothing to hide........

Another thing with the forced DNA testing is that there will be refusals. Thousands of them, and of course the bloke who did it will refuse anyway. So you'll end up with a million DNA samples of innocent people, all of which they say will be destroyed, all of whic won't be.

This is serious people. You civil liberties have been eroded year upon year. This time you might need to make a stand.
By:
Psychic Mutley
When: 09 Jan 11 21:29
^ So many typos. I don't care. I'm seething.
By:
Aceme
When: 09 Jan 11 21:35
Clouseau

That was my "thinking out of the box theory" and having stood face to face with a stalker that attempted murder I can tell you that these type of people are scary and act very irrationally.

Trying to solve this logically just doesn't work because every theory has a flaw so maybe thinking illogically might provide the answer the cops are looking for.That`s what I was attempting, it sounds far fetched but is not impossible.

As you say a lot of focus was put on the LL and only now are the cops doing things you would expect in the first few days, checking drains etc. Maybe the cops were thinking too logically as well, if so they may have really messed this up.
By:
Aceme
When: 09 Jan 11 21:44
Im still on the LL but i must admit im having doubts now.
By:
naydam
When: 09 Jan 11 21:51
It's a good job you weren't allowed to hang him, then!
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 09 Jan 11 21:53
I'm on nobody then because i have not got all the facts in front of me
By:
GT
When: 09 Jan 11 21:53
ll 25's now
By:
Aceme
When: 09 Jan 11 21:54
Isnt it just, but were not privvie to all the evidence
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 09 Jan 11 21:54
I might have a saver on Psychic Mutley.
By:
travelling man
When: 09 Jan 11 21:58
pumphol.     09 Jan 11 21:27 
travelling man     09 Jan 11 21:02 
This woman saying all bristol men should be DNA tested to find the killer.
Who's to say she wasn't killed by a woman??



Who is to say that they actually have any DNA at all !!

The newscaster on Channel 5 just now !!
By:
wur
When: 09 Jan 11 21:58
6/5 boyfriend
2/1 sporty neighbour
8/1 person texted on way home
16/1 landlord
5/1 other
By:
'Ace' Rothstein
When: 09 Jan 11 21:59
sparkmaster.     09 Jan 11 21:54 
I might have a saver on Psychic Mutley.


Psychic Mutley is 3rd in after that rant Laugh
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 09 Jan 11 21:59
11/4 strange loner weirdo type that followed her home
By:
Aceme
When: 09 Jan 11 22:01
Channel 555 now

STALKER
By:
pumphol.
When: 09 Jan 11 22:03
wur     09 Jan 11 21:58 
6/5 boyfriend

CryCry
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 09 Jan 11 22:07
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When: 09 Jan 11 21:27

travelling man     09 Jan 11 21:02
This woman saying all bristol men should be DNA tested to find the killer.
Who's to say she wasn't killed by a woman??



Who is to say that they actually have any DNA at all !!


Woman MP sounds a complete ****.

The woman that they mention previously Kerry Mcarthy was raped while walking home. Any DNA found on her would have presumably have been semen or under her fingernails from defensive wounds so which would be reasonable to assume was from her killer.

If in this case she wasn't sexually assaulted and was strangled with presumably no chance to defend herself what DNA would you expect to find that on its own would lead to the conviction of the killer. Finding a match from a hair or saliva in the flat would give the police a possible suspect but certainly wouldn't on it's own lead to a conviction.

The only DNA which they could find which you could attribute to being from the killer would be skin scrapings on the ligature from the tension used to strangle her if a ligature was indeed used. (I've read some things which say police think it may have been her sock?) Or if she struggled.
By:
GT
When: 09 Jan 11 22:16
spread thread at midnight  975 - 982
By:
A_T
When: 09 Jan 11 22:58

tearful bf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNRwwOmvchg&t=1m0s


That's all you'll find of the BF now - all the rest has vanished Shocked

By:
GT
When: 09 Jan 11 23:06
why?
By:
kruger76
When: 09 Jan 11 23:19
eureka moment...

since in every market ever opened on Bfair "THEY" have known the outcome, it would be logical in this case to ask Bfair to open the market on this case, and because "THEY" know the outcome, the culprit would hit 1.01 within hours, if not minutes?

"THEY" always know...
By:
tobermory
When: 09 Jan 11 23:36
The body was not removed from flat to distance the crime from the flat but so that the stalker could "spend some time" with the object of his affections.

But he surely had all the time he needed in the flat, as well as the security of being undisturbed.
By:
mr winkle
When: 10 Jan 11 00:17
SOLVED IT YET ?
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 10 Jan 11 00:23
No it's not being solved here the threads running out of info and stuff
By:
desperatemunter
When: 10 Jan 11 01:33
I remember when this place was jumpin'....it's all gone now
By:
kkkatt
When: 10 Jan 11 02:09
wur
as of yet there is no watertight reason to rule out the sunday night theory.she didn`t answer her calls/texts but apart from b/f,who tried to call her?police have not said.we do know she hadn`t spoken to her dad for a week and even then it was he who had called her about an xmas present.
nobody saw or spoke to her after friday night but then the weather was extreme and i read it snowed on friday,saturday and sunday night.she may not have ventured out.
                             
there have been vague references about the cat,but i seem to remember these came from the b/f and refer to the cat being upset or words to that effect.i`m repeating myself i know, but the autopsy showed no trace of pizza in her system.if she ate the pizza,she didn`t die on friday/saturday.there may well have been a tidy-up in the flat by the killer after the murder.police are witholding a lot of info.they are hoping to catch out a suspect on his knowledge of info that has not been made public and only the killer would know.


police have confirmed the body was"fully clothed" except for one sock,two boots and her coat.interestingly they have not confirmed that she was wearing the green sweater and dark pants as on cctv.if she was wearing these clothes when found,she died on friday night before eating the pizza.
if she wasn`t wearing them,the b/f doesn`t have an alibi.

however with so little info, its all just frustrating guesswork.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 10 Jan 11 03:02
On the issue of the photo,just to put it to bed, I think, after some more analysis, that it is all down to the poor quality of the original image!
The depth of field is certainly very short, and the image is grainy,
so perhaps there has merely been some attempts to clean it up.

Every time I come on here the hope is that, at least, someone
will have been arrested!

If the police are running in ever widening circles, as we seem to be,then the outlook does not look promising.

Just to throw something else at it; has there been any mention of the previous tenant/s?

The landlord stated, earlier, that the last ones didn't hand back their keys!

I would be surprised if the police have not contacted them,
but then, who knows?

Of the three prime suspects, only one can be responsible, so I think
we have to feel for the ones who are innocent.
One can only begin to imagine the hell that they are going through!
By:
cctv star
When: 10 Jan 11 08:09
A chilling letter containing a pizza label was sent to the pub where murder victim Joanna Yeates enjoyed her final drink with colleagues, the Evening Post can reveal.

The scrawled note, written on A5 paper in black ink, was sent to the Bristol Ram in the week after her snow-covered body was

discovered in Longwood Lane, Failand, on December 25.

The lined paper, which appeared to be ripped from a notepad, had a made up address and telephone number written on it but had not been signed by the sender.

The letter discussed different pizza toppings and stated Miss Yeates' name. It is not believed the letter makes any direct reference to the 25-year-old's murder.

Police are understood to have taken the letter and are analysing it as part of their investigation into the murder of the landscape architect from Clifton.

Bristol Ram landlord Alex Major confirmed the information given to the Evening Post was correct but said police had told him not to speak to press about the matter.

A source said: "I was in the pub when the police came but saw the letter before they took it away.

"As soon as I saw her name I realised it could be very important. The police were clearly interested.

"I could not see whether the label came from the same pizza that she is supposed to have bought."

Miss Yeates was last seen alive on December 17. After visiting the Bristol Ram she walked home visiting three shops and buying a pizza and two bottles of cider.

She was reported missing by her boyfriend Greg Reardon, 27, two days later when he returned home from a weekend away.

Miss Yeates' landlord Chris Jefferies, 65, a former teacher at Clifton College, was arrested on suspicion of murder on December 30 but released on police bail.

On Friday police retraced her final movements, speaking to more than 200 people in Failand, Clifton and at the Bristol Ram in Park Street.

Leading criminologist Professor David Wilson said he was not surprised the letter was sent.

"I am inundated with letters about Joanna Yeates on almost a daily basis," he said. "What it reveals is that some stories have real resonance. In other words people connect with the story.

"Joanna Yeates was white, educated, professional, had loving parents and was in a relationship. She had also just finished celebrating Christmas with friends.

"Her story connects with people who read newspapers, watch television or listen to the radio.

"When a story connects with a lot of people they want to be associated with it. That letter arrived at the Bristol Ram just because it is involved in the case.

"My view is I would not worry too much about it, but of course police will have to investigate."

A spokesman for Avon and Somerset police said all reports linked with the murder case are taken seriously.

The news comes after Bristol East Labour MP Kerry McCarthy called for DNA tests to be carried out on men citywide. It echoed the mother of murdered teenager Louise Smith, 18, who called for police to carry out DNA tests in Clifton.

However Liberal Democrat Stephen Williams, who is MP for the area Miss Yeates lived in, said he believed the tests would be a waste of police resources.

Over the weekend Miss Yeates' parents and brother made emotional statements.

In a statement released by Avon and Somerset Police Miss Yeates' brother Chris said: "From December 19 onwards I entered into a surreal hole of despair.

"Jo was my sister and I shared the fear that my parents had that something bad had happened to her. I got to say a final emotional goodbye to Jo and the despair I had was replaced with a wave of deep sadness."

In another statement, the Yeates family said: "We are currently living in a vacuum until we can put Jo to rest.

"Inevitably, after seeing the changing news in the papers and on television, we spend a lot of time hypothesising about the events which took Jo from a happy carefree young lady to a body dumped by the side of a road – like a piece of garbage."

The family added: "We would like to reiterate the request for any information which could relate to Jo's death, however small or insignificant it might appear."

It was reported yesterday that Miss Yeates' mother Theresa, 58, has offered to play the role of her daughter for a televised reconstruction on BBC's Crimewatch.

On Saturday the Evening Post reported on the striking similarities between the murder of Miss Yeates and of Glenis Carruthers who was killed in January 1974.

Mr Wilson, who is professor of criminology and criminal justice at Birmingham City University, said the similarities were too alarming to ignore.

He also revealed that he believes Miss Yeates knew her killer, the murderer is following the story in the news and could well have revisited the scene of the crime.

The Sunday People said that dog walker Marilyn Stevens, 67, had seen a man wearing a woolly hat and sitting in a white van acting suspiciously at the spot that Miss Yeates was to have her body dumped two days later.

A team of 80 officers are working on the case, codenamed Operation Braid, and are following up more than 1,000 lines of inquiry including whether she could have been strangled with her own ski sock, which it is thought her killer might then have kept as a trophy.

Anyone with information about Miss Yeates' murder should call the police on 0845 456 7000 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555111.
By:
Aceme
When: 10 Jan 11 08:25
Texting guy appears to be out of the frame, he was at a party and not asleep as originally posted.

Also says Jo has lived in the Bristol area for two years
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