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101 Greatest Knockouts on Ch5, at the moment.
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Watched a bit of the boxing finals, and young Frankie was superb, you can't say more than that.
Felt gutted for Darren Langley, he tried his heart out, but just wasn't good enough to win gold, and looked devastated on the podium. Young enough to improve and come back, I'll back him in 2008 for a medal, and 2010 for a gold. Anderson won the gold, but by penalties is not the way to do it imo. The Nigerian was knackered for rounds 3 and 4, and threw more punches at fresh air than those that hit Anderson. Some of his wild swings that left him drastically ff balance should have been severely punished, but Andersen wasn't quick enough to nail him. Evans and Price was a fair fight, with Prices superior reach proving a decisive factor. At least Price wasn't asleep for the first 2 rounds like he was in the semis. As for Neally commentating, he's as biased as any commentator I've heard. His comments would be best placed on the football forum on a drunken Saturday night. ' The ref is stupid' ' The ref is blind' ' The ref is a disgrace' It's all I heard when a British boxer was behind. |
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I watched most of the boxing too, AITL.
The lighter weights lads fighting from about 4am were very good (I can't remember their names!) and it was great to see how happy they were when they received their gold medals. Gavin was superb. I missed the Langley fight. I completely agree about the Anderson fight. He was fortunate the Nigerian tired so badly, but I'm glad he won. Price boxed much better than he did in the semi final fight. He finally used his massive height advantage to good effect. All in all, a good night for the UK lads. As for Neally, some of the things he says are ridiculous. It's one thing being on the side of your own nation, but he is completely biased against everyone who isn't. He said the Nigerian should never be allowed in a boxing ring again, at one point! They have just started showing highlights of the boxing on BBC1. |
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Boxing on terrestrial tv later (Monday morning):
Ch4 - 01:40: KOTV - Boxing Magazine. |
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You never know, but doubtful.
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It's on in a few minutes. They are doing a feature on Sugar Ray Leonard tonight.
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It was a clip of Sugar Ray and Tommy Hearns they showed, when Leonard became the undisputed welterweight champion..
What excellent boxers they were. A bit different to today's bunch. Calzaghe has said he would like to fight Toney at the 168lb limit, but as Toney is now 'King Of McDonalds', he doesn't think it likely that they will meet. They also mentioned another fight that has had to be called off (I didn't catch the boxers names) because one of the welterweights said he could only take the fight if he was allowed to fight 20lbs over the limit. Whatever happened to discipline? |
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Discipline died when the PC brigade stopped competition in schools in case little Jeremy never won the 10 metres and got upset by it.
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Too true, AITL, too true.
They also did a feature on the Kronk gym, which is in danger of closing at the moment. They interviewed various people attached to it and Manny Steward said that a question that often comes up is: Who was the first world champion to have trained at the Kronk? The answer is: Kenty, some 40 odd years after Joe Louis was the first world champ to have come from Detroit. It will be a great shame if the Kronk closes, due to lack of funds and kids today not taking up sport, but getting rid of their aggression on the streets instead of in the gym. |
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Boxing on terrestrial tv later (Tuesday morning) at another ridiculous time:
Ch5 - 02:45 - Boxing Classic: Muhammad Ali v**Spinks |
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Definitely too late for me Tommy.
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Well, I'm still up.
They are showing both of the fights now. |
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It was great to watch both of the fights again from 1978.
Spinks fought very well in the first fight, weighing in at only 197lbs. He'd only had 7 pro fights before fighting Ali for the World Heavyweight Championship. Ali was obviously not in peak condition and flabby. He probably didn't think he needed to train too hard to beat the young contender. Spinks was full of confidence and in no way overawed by the Champ. He deserved his victory. Ali had obviously trained much harder for the rematch, looking fit and bouncing around the ring in a way reminiscent of his 'glory years'. Spinks put up a good show again, but was out-boxed and out-thought by Ali. Ali thus became the first man to become undisputed World Heavyweight Champ for the third time. Sadly, it was obvious that Ali's powers were declining and the 'Thrilla In Manilla' against Frazier had really taken it's toll. We weren't to see him at his best again. |
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Sadly.
But thank gawd we have memory cells. |
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We do, thank the Lord, AITL.
I was saying to my mother earlier today, when these old fights are shown ( even if I haven't seen them since they were first transmitted) I'm instantly taken back to the time I first saw them. Sitting with my dad and discussing them as they were taking place, just like it was yesterday. It's amazing how your memory can be so clear on somethings, yet not on others. |
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Maybe not my all time facourite, but without doubt the favourite from my youth. If only Henry had nailed him 10 seconds earlier.
Enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnEDM4EC5kw&search=muhammed%20ali |
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It sticks a couple of times, but runs fairly smoothly overall.
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If Henry had hit Clay 10 seconds earlier there is still no guarantee he would have won.
Ali was up between 3 and 4, but would have stayed down until 8 or 9 if he was badly hurt, he was just dazed imo, and only had to stay out of trouble for 5 more seconds. This would only leave 9 seconds of the round to go, and even if Henry nailed him again the bell would have ended the round before the count got to 10. It would have made no difference to history. Henry was too light to become world champ, and he cut too easily. Nothing was ever going to stop Ali reaching the top. |
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For half a point, no googling allowed.
Can anyone name the other boxer who put Clay, as he was, on the deck with a left hook. |
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Well, as Ali was only floored by two other boxers in his career, it's got to be either Sonny Banks or Joe Frazier.
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Sonny Banks is spot on.
He was Ali when Joe decked him. |
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That was also a left hook.
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Well done lads. Banks it was.
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Saving.
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Again.
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TTT.
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Thanks JP.
I was looking for it earlier to say: KOTV is on Ch5 at the moment[/b - [b]Howard Eastman v Edison Miranda |
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How long ago was this fight TT? Any idea?
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Eastman was always a slow starter IIRC.
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I missed the start, JP, but I think it's very recent.
I remember seeing the fight odds on Betfair a short while ago. |
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Thanks ,i'll enjoy this!
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Eastman always comes on stronger later on.Doing well now.
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Lol ,well i got that wrong!!!!!!!!
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why did they stop that, if eastman out of the corner was not in trouble.
he recovered so soon, joke |
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Yep i agree Dobbbin.Ref should've done his homework on Eastman.Howard is well known for his strong chin.
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Eastman has a very strong chin. He was obviously non-plussed after it had been stopped.
It's hard for refs to know sometimes, when to stop a fight. Miranda looks like a really decent boxer though. |
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Anybody remember Paul Sykes? Heavyweight from Wakefield, if he could have stayed out of trouble he could have gone all the way to the top imo. Right down on his luck now, same as Kirkland Laing
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I don't remember him Gazza, but I'm sorry to hear he is down on his luck.
Unfortunately, it's a common occurrence with boxers. They mentioned last night on KOTV that Howard Eastman had been homeless between 16 and 18 years of age. His winning opponent, Edison Miranda, had been abandoned as a child and had lived on the streets of Colombia between the ages of 9 and 16. That's one of the reasons boxing is my favourite sport. It teaches young lads discipline and gives them hope of a better life, especially if they are from disadvantaged backgrounds. |
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Boxing becomes their life blood.
Sadly, some fighters, including The Greatest, didn't know when to stop. |