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Risky betting now as the forecast is all over the place really.
Sit tight and wait until monday pm / tuesday am. See what the stick reading is then bet accordingly. As it stands i see no reason in looking for good ground spring horses but as always that can change here at this venue at this time of year. If the anticipated and forecast does arrive at the weekend then it will be nigh on impossible to see anything other than a reading of around 5.5 to staertg the meeting on. What he actually calls it is another matter. |
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Wait and see, have we all forgotten how the course drains so well since the new drainage a few years ago? A passing shower today, a shower tomorrow, a couple of afternoon showers on Friday, its hardly a monsoon. Just 2mm rain forecast now for both Sunday and Monday and 6mm of rain and thunder early hours of Tuesday morning. Maybe its Claisse watering on Monday we need to worry about!!
The 7 day weather forecast summary for Cheltenham Racecourse: For Cheltenham Racecourse in the coming week the average daytime maximum temperature will be around 11°C, with a high for the week of 13°C expected on the afternoon of Saturday 10th. The mean minimum temperature will be 2°C, dipping to its lowest on the morning of Friday 9th at -1°C. Expect the week ahead to have some days seeing a little precipitation and some days with rain. The current forecast indicates Friday 9th will have the most precipitation with an accumulation of around 16.0mm. On the whole winds are likely to be moderate. |
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there will be no watering can this year
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Jockey Club.
Cheltenham Festival 13-16 March 2018 Next Race Meeting 13/03/2018 Report Date 07/03/2018 08:43:00 Official Going Soft Good to Soft in places. |
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Kim Bailey
@kimbaileyracing 21m21 minutes ago Just walked @CheltenhamRaces . The course is in fabulous condition; all credit to Simon Claisse and his staff after such a trying week. Ground..soft and much more good to soft than I expected. But weather forecast |
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....could change that
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https://twitter.com/kimbaileyracing/status/971383285799628802/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fembed.scribblelive.com%2FEmbed%2Fv7.aspx%3FId%3D2755901%26ThemeId%3D37122
Some pictures here as well tommy. |
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Cheers CCM
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kim has changed his tune
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wondersobright • March 7, 2018 11:22 AM GMT
2016 27 mm rain on wednesday prior to festival Annie Power breaks track record on claisse good to soft yet closer to good/good to firm in places water table much higher this year. How come water table is higher when rainfall this year todate is far lower than 2016. |
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Summers day today no way is it going to be soft by next tuesday
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There was mass hysteria about the bleedin' water table last year. Please not again
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water table is not determined by rainfall over the last few days or weeks
its a product of several months rainfall totals & the watering regime |
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CCM...well its the reason why rain turns the place soft quite quickly
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forget the going stick Claisse will call it good to soft whatever
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What price for no Cheltenham? And what price Claisse getting the boot?
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new map released today
going stick 6.4  they're making it up as they go along |
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could be frost aint come out fully a few feet under when he took previous reading. allowing snow melt to sit ont top
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jasey • February 1, 2016 4:00 PM GMT
2000 good 2001 void 2002 good 2003 good 2004 good 2005 good to soft 2006 good 2007 soft 2008 g to s 2009 g to s 2010 g to s 2011 good 2012 good 2013 soft 2014 g to s 2015 g to s |
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wondersobright:
3 months prior to Annies track record up to wednesday before meet approx 14 inches of rain 3 months prior to next weeks festival including today approx 6 inches of rain wheres your evidence to say the water table is higher now than then ? your talking approx 100 mm less rainfall water table gagging for a drink imo. if rain doesnt materialise as expected he will be watering on Sunday |
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Wonders. If anyone appears to be making it up as they go along, it appears to be you
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I have screenshot the going map the last 2 days on my phone, now they have not had rain in 2 days, last night it had green (good to soft) coming down the hill (I think) on the old course and in other places on the cross country course. Today after no rain these parts of the racetrack are now soft?? How does that happen
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wonder if you think claisses watering 6 months ago will have a bearing on tuesdays going yer need to give yer head a wobble.
the critical days will be sun/mon tues which for obvious reasons will have the greatest bearing |
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no I have reported the facts as they have been released
the going sticks and maps are not my opinion |
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PF its ridiculous tbh I am done with this market now
I have switched green back and forth from g/s to soft cant be arsed with it now I have got small green on both everything else is a big red |
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the critical days will be sun/mon tues which for obvious reasons will have the greatest bearing
of course and geoff please don't quote rainfall totals to prove your point think about how much watering took place last year (4 successive meterological seasons drier than avg) |
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wheres your evidence to say the water table is higher now than then
ground has been softer than previous years despite less rainfall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QED |
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Very much concur wondersobright.
The drainage is so efficient that Claisse has had to put a lot of water on the track in the summer & autumn in order to be able to race on "safe jumping ground" at the October meeting. The effect of all that watering is that when it rains, very little rain is required to turn the ground into a quagmire. Shaman Claisse is like the wind. Moving in all directions and impossible to grasp. |
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From the RP (after the November meeting):
Clerk of the course Simon Claisse on Sunday hit back at criticism of the ground at Cheltenham levelled by leading jockey Brian Hughes during ITV Racing's coverage, stating the rider should "substantiate his claims before being publicly critical". On his return to the weighing room after partnering Cloudy Dream to finish second in the Shloer Chase, Hughes said: "The track should be ashamed of themselves, watering so much. That's horrendous ground." Responding, Claisse said the course had not been watered since the Showcase meeting three weeks earlier. "We watered before the October meeting so it was not good to firm, for very obvious welfare issues," he said. "On the Friday it was good and the clock backed that up. Once opened up it rode slightly easier the next day. We've not touched it since. "We had 12mm of rain yesterday on good to soft ground that's turned it soft and heavy." The ground was undoubtedly testing after Saturday's downpour – jockey Stan Sheppard described it as "like galloping through PVA glue" – while champion rider Richard Johnson added: "The weather we had yesterday was horrendous and it's got very soft. Unfortunately it's got very tacky today. "It would be lovely to have fresh ground each day but I don't know the layout well enough to know if they can do that. It's always nice to have the freshest ground for graded races, so hopefully they can keep looking at it and improving. But it's not easy after the weather we had." |
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you lads keep forgetting
if he calls heavy or firm you will have every jockey club member back to the earl of derby and sir bunbury turning in their graves |
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As has been said, the course drains quickly.
Cheltenham Racecourse Cheltenham Festival 13-16 March 2018 Next Race Meeting 13/03/2018 Report Date 07/03/2018 15:43:00 Official Going Soft Good to Soft in places. GoingStick 6.4 on Wednesday at 15:00 |
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nothing to do with drainage TT, it can't go from 5.5 on 1 day to 6.4 the next
there hasn't been an official going change in days |
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Rain forecast - never give heavy. Cannot possibly have any good in the ground.
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I've forecast what would win certain race's dosent always materialise
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go to cheltenham any day during the festival
make sure you have a club ticket go up to gate 21 7.00 am AND WALK THE FECKING COURSE then you will know for definite .... there are games being played there |
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if you know anyone with connections you get more access
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Wonders. It went from 6.5 on Day One last year to 7.1 on Day Two.
And the Tuesday was nothing like as nice as today. |
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Currently pissing down.
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irishone - to whose benefit are games being played ?
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