My pocket would love Neon Wolf to run in this, as I have 50 AP and 25 NRNB! And at the price now for the Neptune I just can't back, as it's too late, the value is all but gone for my taste.

I have no idea on the route they will take, but.... I don't think the it is as cut and dried as the two markets suggest.

Also I think High Bridge has gone under the radar a little. Hasn't beaten anything particular of note and stayed away from the established trials, but is unbeaten over hurdles and was only beaten 4l in the Bumper last year. I took the 20 NRNB on offer before the last Newbury run, and still think there's some value at 16 and 14. Three entries, but apparently Pauling is leaning towards this race.

neon wolf will win if it runs here or neptune...saw it win the bumper at uttoxeter back in december and vowed to back it every subsequent run, it was just so impressive although it was very foggy and hard to see how well it was going down the back straight but it bombed up the home straight..

on the RP preview series one of the guys (can't remember who) gave stats for the past 10-15 years that the supreme is won by a strong stayer (because they go such a fast pace) whereas the neptune is won by a speed horse (because of the relatively slower pace although the sectionals show the last few furlongs run faster than supreme), certainly the champion hurdlers (istabraq, hardy eustace, faugheen etc) came from the neptune and not the supreme which has only had brave inca since bula back in 1970!

have backed him for the supreme at much bigger prices than neptune, some of them NRNB so prefer if it runs there - on the other hand am not going to festival but going to aintree so if it is held back for then at least get to see him in the flesh again

Would absolutely love NW to run in supreme (pocket talking) as have 50s though i fear my sportsbook account going west should he win. I do have 12s for the Neptune to a higher stake though 50s more than covers that and a freebie bet at 8s any.

Moon Racer was off from October before the Chelt bumper and was obviously off over a year before running blow by blow to 3/4 lengths so a long lay off doesn't bother me in the slightest

Just the books following the exchange like sheep as usual. Nothing been announced as far as i can see yet still being traded as short ish fav in the neptune market. Not sure anything was traded on him in Supreme over night probably more to do with the lack of layers. Though there is still a lump wanting to back at 20 i see. It is possible it's just a bot or someone taking a position in the market.

The dream is indeed alive for my 50/1 voucher though the stakes are much lower compared to that of the Neptune (double)

I totally see your angle Duffy, but I just want a run at 50. I'd be taking on Melon exactly the same as you say about NW. However if I was one of those that went in at 20, I wouldn't care less.

Absolutely not taking it the wrong way . I actually agree with you, having backed both NW and FO, I just happened to get the prices, and as you know your position changes if you are carrying a good bet, you start to try and find reasons why they'll win!

Forget that last post the 3.6 in neptune has actually just been laid

Have been thinking about this for the last hour and actually think Neon Wolf is shortening for this race because there is a lot of rain in the forecast this week. Trainer has said Supreme if ground is soft, Neptune if ground is what it usually is. So most likely it's just speculation money and we won't know until at least the 5 day stage which is this Weds

Ground be softer on day one but not much juice forecast!Neptune i think for Neon,Be happy if went supreme,got decent AP bets on next 3 in betting,F Oscar,Messire,Bacardys.All bet pre xmas.

I've covered my Neptune bet on Neon Wolf for this, but think he'll go Neptune in the end.

Fingers crossed these market vibes are correct.

Typical - no deluge forecast so Neptune it is. It does look weaker that's for sure.

I think the price collapse was more to do with the bookies realising he was way too big if he did switch to this race, rather than weight of money.

I think he's the worst price of any horse at the Festival mate.

neon aint going anywhere near the supreme. miles tougher race.

I think his price is way too short.  I put on the Neptune thread he won the same Haydock trial as Peddlers; they were both put up to 148 after it; both go straight to Cheltenham from it, but Peddlers was 7/1 SP, and a lot bigger than that in the weeks building up to it if I remember, not 9/4.

Not suggesting Neon should be 7/1, but I think him, Finians Oscar and Bacardys should all be roughly the same price; not 9/4 and the two others at 5/1.  Gutted I missed the boat on the Bacardys price.

Moon racer looking like CH to me....Bacardys should be FAV to me!

The books will be out to get both NW and FO on the day, both are too short on what they've achieved, the Tolworth is looking worse by the day!!