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By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 14 Mar 17 16:37
well done buevair backers !
By:
harry callaghan
When: 14 Mar 17 16:38
tomdeane and others well done enjoy
By:
padlock
When: 14 Mar 17 16:41
Looked slow motion champion hurdle Scared
By:
Gordon63
When: 14 Mar 17 16:41
I've had a very small bet on buveur d'air who i backed when at aintree last spring and who finished third in what looks one of the best supremes of recent times, however i'm going to look closely again on tuesday morning when the ground is confirmed (although everybody knows that claisse will be pulling out all stops for good to soft) and then backing one of the outsiders, leaning towards sceau royal today but that may change

increased my stake at 11/2 this morning and also sceau royal - yanworth lay win and place also, happy days
By:
sageform
When: 14 Mar 17 16:43
Last years Supreme must have been some race. How good is Min if he comes back sound next year. Altior and Buveur D'air probably the best 2 over hurdles or novice chases Not out of the question that those 2 and Min could have been 123 in the CH or the Arkle had they all run together.
By:
Swagger
When: 14 Mar 17 16:45
Well done all backers of the winner, he was unexposed and open to any amount of improvement and showed it. Interesting if it was just the ground or if there was actually something wrong with Yanworth who obviously ran a horrible race. Yes last years Supreme looked a quality renewal beforehand and looks even better now. Bar that it pretty much went as expected.
By:
wellchief
When: 14 Mar 17 16:45
Makes me cry that the only bet I had on Beveur was at 14/1 in the JLT Cry

That Aintree run with Petit Mouchoir bodes well for Limini next, although I am still in the Apples Jade camp.
By:
duffy
When: 14 Mar 17 16:46
charbel didn't do it any harm earlier either....Tombstone is going to get backed off the boards later in the week.
By:
That is all
When: 14 Mar 17 16:50
Well done lads... MTOY ran an absolute cracker again! Henderson having a good first day as usual!
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 14 Mar 17 16:56
Not sure if Brain Power is or isnt in this class but pulling like a monster early doors
By:
CheltenhamRoar
When: 14 Mar 17 20:44
Wicklow brave ran an interesting/bizarre race! Was left at the start missed it by at least 15 lengths and came there on the outside tanking two out, found zilch after! Just doesn't like hurdles getting in his way!
By:
buddeliea
When: 14 Mar 17 22:14
Well done to all BD backers.
Yanworth and Brain Power awful races,but winner was good and bless him so was Tent.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 14 Mar 17 22:25
yanworth frigging terrible.

horrible horse and can't believe I backed this donkey.

soon to be appearing in a donkey race on blackpool pleasure beach.
By:
tomdeane
When: 14 Mar 17 22:34
Interesting race to pick through -- it may well have been a weakish renewal but I'm thrilled for Buveur D'Air. I think he is a really classy horse and am glad he got his day in the sun.
By:
sageform
When: 16 Mar 17 13:59
Supasundae endorsed the form again yesterday.
By:
SEATHESTARS....NO1
When: 16 Mar 17 15:25
Yanworth - Aintree big bet if he runs there Wink
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 16 Mar 17 16:10
yanworth?

only place he should go now is the blackpool donkey derby.

if he went to aintree he'd be lapped in his silly cheek pieces. slowest horse i've ever seen.
By:
Howdi
When: 16 Mar 17 21:21
^^^ hows he won 7 races then surely horses he beat were slower?
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 16 Mar 17 21:49
yanworth was a decent horse but has gone backwards.

hence the application of headgear. the same thing happened with detroit city, when a horse gets lazy it only keeps getting lazier and lazier.

he hasn't got the natural speed anyway to win a champion hurdle. tuesday showed that. maybe he should be aimed at the stayers next season, but I think he could just go completely now.
By:
geoff m
When: 16 Mar 17 22:17
Reckon he will go chasing next season.
By:
duffy
When: 17 Mar 17 02:39
I reckon he'll be aimed at the stayers, he's just cheesed off having to race at a pace he's not comfortable with, there were two horses in the stayers today with proper 2 mile class and one of them stayed the trip well and won it. If Yanworth got the chance to race in that type of slower paced race we might see him look like the yanworth that hacked up on trials day last year, racing within his comfort zone.
By:
buddeliea
When: 17 Mar 17 06:25
Anyone with half a brain would see that was not Yanworths true running.

I too think he will go chasing next season.
By:
wellchief
When: 17 Mar 17 09:05
He has to go chasing and 2.5m is his distance. I put this on the Yanworth World Hurdle thread 7 months ago, and still feel it.

With the beauty of hindsight, I did put that I think he is essentially triples over hurdles; not quick enough for 2 and no guarantees he'll stay 3.

So many more options for him over fences over 2.5m, and what hasn't been mentioned is I think he definitely needs cut in the ground. He looks to have loads of scope to jump a fence.

I'd be amazed if we ever saw him over 2m again, unless it was a small novice chase where he has stones in hand.
By:
wellchief
When: 17 Mar 17 09:09
I agree STS about Aintree. 2.5m there would be perfect for him; like Thousands Stars, Oscar Whisky, The New One, Zarkandar - beaten in a Champion over too short a trip, but this intermediate trip was what they need.

I'd be very sweet on Yanworth reversing the form with a lot of them from the Champion if he turns up.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 17 Mar 17 10:48
yanworth is overrated. look at the two races he won this year- he looked dreadfully slow at times and struggled to put away poor opposition.

lacks pace, getting lazier and they are putting the headgear on him. I see an early retirement or a career in selling hurdles.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 17 Mar 17 10:55
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Anyone with half a brain would see that was not Yanworths true running.

I too think he will go chasing next season.
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actually anyone with half a brain could see that WAS his true running, (but thanks for that little dig Wink) he just lacks the pace to stay with proper 2 mile hurdlers on good ground... didn't have the pace to go with yorkhill when he initially quickened and plodded on in the bumper as well behind moon racer. Even at kempton at xmas got outpaced briefly and had to be shuffled along to keep up, and that was against the new one and MTOY, hardly dominant hurdlers
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 17 Mar 17 10:56
I'm just annoyed I knew all this and still got mugged into backing him Cry
By:
buddeliea
When: 17 Mar 17 12:04
Laugh
By:
Gordon63
When: 17 Mar 17 12:28
lewisham ranger - your forum joining date suggests that you're at least 15 yo but your swift change of tack on yanworth is worthy of any pre-pubescent teen
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 17 Mar 17 12:41
why? am I supposed to stay rooted to one thought? having a flexible mind is a good thing many would argue.

perhaps you're just to stuck to your opinions, like most sheep, sorry people Wink
By:
DECALEC
When: 17 Mar 17 13:06
Lighten up and have a pint of stout it's ST PATRICK'S  day
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 18 Mar 17 00:01

Mar 17, 2017 -- 12:41PM, lewisham ranger wrote:


why? am I supposed to stay rooted to one thought? having a flexible mind is a good thing many would argue.perhaps you're just to stuck to your opinions, like most sheep, sorry people


good post, he had an opinion, saw the race, examined the evidence and changed his mind instead of trying to find excuses to validate his original opinion (which a lot of us do).

It's a good trait for a gambler - he also had the balls to come back on the thread having called the race wrong - unlike most (myself included sometimes).

Well done, Lewisham

By:
lewisham ranger
When: 18 Mar 17 09:50
cheers mate. nice to know there are still some forumites who won't bite your head off if you offer up an opinion Wink
By:
sageform
When: 18 Mar 17 11:47
It is clear now that Yanworth is not the class horse he looked in every other race he has run in! I will reserve judgement until he runs again.
By:
wellchief
When: 18 Mar 17 12:27
What a run by Arctic Fire off top weight in the County. He was my Champion Hurdle selection all year and can't help but think he would have gone close.

I'm hoping we see him at Aintree to make up for his fall when he had the race at his mercy a few years ago.
By:
impossible123
When: 18 Mar 17 13:30
I must admit I did not realise Arctic Fire was running at the Festival, and to win his race carrying top weight is a mega achievement. Incidentally, Buveur D'air despite what some might think of his victory was only one of two (the other was Sizing John) won faster than the standard time.

I think Yanworth needs to be stepped-up in distance regardless of discipline.
By:
charwell.
When: 19 Mar 17 01:01
BD was the only race I felt confident with pre the festival. He was one of only a few winners I backed too Scared

A dream of a horse and difficult to see beyond him again for next years renewal.

As for Lewisham Ranger; your pathetic posts are toe curlingly childish. I really don't think horse racing and punting in general is for you!
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 19 Mar 17 08:46
thanks for that trollwell, i'll bear that in mind mate Wink
By:
wellchief
When: 19 Mar 17 10:55
Min is one of only a couple that I can think of who may worry Beveur D'Air, but a lot can change in 12 months.

My gut feeling is that they'll drop Djakdam back for the Ryanair next year, so Douvan will be kept at 2m (either way I think one of them will be in the Ryanair)

Can't see them wanting to take Douvan on with Min, and Min has shown he can get the better of Beveur in the past.

I personally think Min would have won the Arkle, but that's a different story.

However, a lot of things all need to fall into line for that to happen, so 12/1 is no price to take, especially as we don't know how bad his injury is.

We were told last year Arctic Fire only had a niggle and he wasn't seen for 14 months.
By:
rl91
When: 19 Mar 17 12:54
Well chief agree with you 100%

I posted in the horse racing forum about him being back and dropped a stone because of his time off, Arctic Fire vs Yanworth in the aintree hurdle?
I know which way I'll be going and fingers crossed he can be back at 100% he'd have a shot next year for sure
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