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Well somethings got to win it, have backed Lord Windermere at 20s, got to be in with a good shout of at least being in the 3. I also have BB. Union, and HA in my book. Going to top up on BB this morning for sure though am not sure why you say HA cant jump, didnt he beat Rocky creek very easily lto i actually think the RSA will cut up as will all them novice races! Though the Jewson could prove to be the best race this year !
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Indeed looking a pi55 poor race
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though am not sure why you say HA cant jump, didnt he beat Rocky creek very easily lto
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Am obviously thinking of something completely different without looking it up for accuracy, me silly
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HA will beat Unioniste anyway....for fourth place
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RSA weith Townend on board. Wizard of Oz, i accept cheque.
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Ruby chooses Unioniste.
Dont blame him. |
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As long as he runs. At the end of the day if the horse gets easily done, then it wouldn't matter who was on board. I haven't given up on him yet.
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Dont blame you mate,its a nov chase and anything can happen,plus hes one with a chance,whoever rides.
Really think the Unioniste,HA form is the form to follow myself as re this race,seems Ruby may think that as well. But hes chosen wrong before!! |
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I'm not overly impressed with anything in this race if Dynaste doesn't turn up. I don't see any horses in here that will be taking home any big races next season. I suppose Unioniste is the obvious oen if you're looking to the future, but this race is in a few days and i just haven't taken to anything. If someone told me they had a 2 quid budget for this race, i'd tell them to pick 2 outsiders.
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I can't have Unioniste for this race, i backed him for the December Gold Cup so i am a big fan of the horse just don't see it being his race. I agree with Ballydoyle Hadrians Approach can't jump (but would have a good chance if he puts in a clear round), I get the impression that Mullins has never been happy with Boston Bob this season in terms of his preperation and i'm guessing thats why Ruby went with Unioniste thinking they don't have BB quite right. If BB is back to himself then I think he would win this race like Cooldine did, if he isn't then we could have a right old turn up
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Like Lord Windermere or Houblon Des Obeaux Swagger?ive got those 2 alongside Boston Bob.thoughts?
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Funny you mention those two Ballydoyle as those are the two others i am considering backing on the day. My thoughts on Boston Bob are even if he hasn't been pleasing Mullins etc, he still beat all those Irish horses last time out so you would hope he has improved from that meaning it would be difficult to see any of them reversing the form. However Lord Windermere does look a proper boat made for the RSA as does Houbon Des Obeaux, they look like they will stay longer than the proverbial mother-in-law!
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Yeah I've been on all three practically all season..BB 8/1 Lord 33/1 and Houblon 70...I really like this Lord Windermere for this...crying out for 3m and Culloty is saying the same...I don't like the prep BB has had...I can't have Unioniste at all....Goulanes has only had one run....Houblon will stay no problem and could sneak a place
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Had Rocky Creek also and am staggered he hasn't gone for this.Save him for a Hennessey?in 8 months time?nah don't like that at all....
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Yes i am also starting to come round to Lord Windermere, he just has a nice profile for the race. I wouldn't even be surprised if Boston Bob didn't turn up, i am amazed Walsh didn't decide to ride him, whatever people say about Boston Bob he is a Grade 1 winner in both disciplines, including a Grade 1 win in his second chase race. I'm not too bothered he isn't on him more the fact that he chose a horse over him who won a Cheltenham handicap effectively off 138, a French 5 yr old with a 1 lbs allowance who isn't even certain to confirm form with Hadrians Approach and i have doubts about his stamina at this stage in his career. I have a bad feeling about Boston Bob the closer we get to the race
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I think Lyreen Legend can reverse the form with Lord Windermere, will strip much fitter in the RSA than he did last time out. This is probably the race I'm in the best position in with Boston Bob at 10/1 and Lyreen at 40/1. Please God they'll both turn up and run their race now.
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Lord Windemere and Lyreen have their chances but hard to see them reversing form with BB over an extra 3 furlongs given the way he mowed them down over 2m5f. As for Unioniste I dont like 5 yr olds in this race, very bad record since the weight for age allowance was changed and Hadrians Approach always seems to have a bad mistake in him. Goulanes has huge potential but lacks experience for a race of this type.
I would have liked if BB had 3 runs over fences for experience but im not going to 2nd guess W Mullins. Im v encouraged by the positive noises from the yard. I lumped on at 5/1 nrnb and could see him going off at 2/1 if Dynaste defects as seems likley given the ground conditions. BB I think would have won the Albert bartlett last yr only he was given too much to do. Townend gets a good tune out of him and im sure will keep him prominent and then I see him powering up the hill. Soft groud wont harm his chances and he seems an ideal type for the rough and tumble of this race. Houblon des obeaux could be a good 20/1 nrnb bet given the way race could cut up. |
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Similar to you Slabster, LL 33/1 ew and Bob at 8s and 11/2.
Still a competitive race mind you, Jim Culloty is very bullish about Lord Windermere for example. Still surprised Ruby chose Unioniste tbh but Paul Townend is due a festival win.   |
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ruby has got it wrong before, but unioniste must be doing something special at home for him to pick him over a G1 winner, don,t you think???
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Nicholls would have told him that he's left something to work with, and Mullins would have just said he hasn 't been firing as he would have liked. Decision made.
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I remember thinking why Paul Townend did`nt kick Boston Bob on sooner lto at Leopardstown at a trip that was obviously short of his best.
In hindsight they probably learned more from the race with the horse being asked to jump at pace & grind out the win. Over 3 miles, granted a clear round you cant see anything other than more improvement to come. |
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maybe mcain will switch super duty to this now that dynaste is out
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Hope so who knows with Mccain after Peddlers last season,Super Duty would have good chance imo.
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I'm with Swagger from further up this page, about Unioniste, I don't like the December gold cup win and I can't see him winning
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win lay boston bob, should be running in the midlands national
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It takes a strong stayer to win this. I favoured BB b4 Dynaste's defection and it now looks like a good opportunity for Townend to get a 1st festival win IMO.
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Synchronised (rip) won the Midlands National and went on to win a Gold Cup
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Boston Bob won over 2m5f...amazes me that people think he is a plodder...Unioniste has absolutely no chance of winning this. 5 years old..French bred...walking up the run in LTO...won a handicap off under 10 stone...form ain't there whatsoever
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nor profile bally
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Well it begs the question,what does Ruby know that we dont?
Cos he obviously thinks Unioniste has more chance than BB. |
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Devastated
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Sick
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puking my guts
also backed rival d'estruval today |
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Wouldn't have won anyway imo,Lord Windermere had plenty in the tank.
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total bollox imo
watch the overhead, read the form of the moriarty no way LW catches BB from 2+ lengths down it's easy to say AFTER thye horse put in an extra stride, slowed down and fell but you have to imagine what would have happened if he did not put in the extra stride and landed running in that case he does not get caught |
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It's all conjecture but i agree with Judge. The first point is if Ruby Walsh rode the horse he would have won in my opinion as would have been positioned correctly throughout (wouldn't have had a rush of blood to go 7 wide then cut back across) and people forget that all Boston Bob does is stay - he gobbled them up last time out and was going away at the end. The horse was ridden incorrectly, trainer instructions or jockey decision. The second point is he was about 2 lengths clear at the last and met it at the wrong angle, proper stayers find more up the hill when it looks like they might get lured in (Champagne Fever) but equally, you would have thought Townend would have learnt from the first race the way that winner was reeled in that it's best to not hit the front too early. No good for backers of Boston Bob today so just have to suck it up. When Ruby wasn't booked i had a bad feeling about Boston Bob, just knew something freekish would happen as it did.
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Look again, he wasn't 2 lengths clear at all , he was a length clear and they were closing, also, when the horse was travelling on the rail for the first part of the race he was sticky, as soon as townend switched him out wide he jumped significantly better, all in all, LW would have been a very unlucky loser he had a nightmare run around the turn when travelling better than BB was...rewind to the turn in when visually it looked impressive with seeing BB sweep around them all, doesn't it look like he's about to storm clear, but when they straighten up he isn't quite as far clear as it looked like he would be,as said before Lyreen closed down on him between the last two and he didn't even win...LW had stacks left.
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Profile wise, I rejected Boston Bob because he only had 2 chases, not enough for the race. You have to jump the fences...
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Would have won that easy. He is simply classier than the rest.
Why did Ruby jump sh1p FFS!! Thought Townend would have been OK but imagine if Ruby was riding. |