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I don't think he would have won. Horse took another stride when Towned asked him for a big one at the last - had his final turn exertions taken their toll?
We will never know of course but whilst he may be termed the best in the race, the way he was ridden he wouldn't have won had he stood up, the winner would have caught him. Bad luck to his backers however. |
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Although he normally finishes strongly he used his energy bursting into the the lead around the home turn. I fully expected him to storm further and further clear but he was already being closed down as they approached the last and his tired fall suggests he didn't have a lot left. We'll never know for sure obviously.
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I had a bit of a cover on the winner which i did post somewhere so apologies for aftertiming but it only covered by big bet on Boston Bob so just stating that so people don't think i'm completely bias. He would have been between a length and 2 lengths clear had he approached the last without the extra step that's what gave the impression the others were even closer than they actually were. My own opinion is it's a difficult call whether he would have won given the way he was ridden - I have absolutely no doubt in my mind if Ruby would have ridden him he would have been produced much later and absolutely bolted up. If you note the way he has been ridden in the past (sorry if patronising but some may not know) Ruby leaves it until either just before or after the last fence/hurdle to hit the front using another horse as a target before storming clear. This clearly wasn't carried out today and the reason why he lost in my opinion. Even being ridden the way he was, given he has only done enough to win in the past i still think there are strong arguments that he would have pulled out more up the hill and outclassed the rest. Still we will never know and little point in debating it any further. Onwards and upwards
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well i think bob was done for - what a light weight that beast has been.
get stuck into him again suckers for the GC next year. |
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Thought he got a bad ride last year because he wasn't close enough and now he got another bad ride because he was leading jumping the last, ffs people on here would want to take up a different hobby. I backed BB today and I don't think he would have have held off LW today, LW won with plenty in hand as soon as he hit the front he idled, just my take on it anyway.
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I think BB would have pulled out more but it's hard to criticise the ride. Boston Bob ran lazily in the Albert Bartlett and in his two chase starts until today. Had Paul Townend left it too late and got beat by an ever diminishing margin up the run in he'd have been slated for it
He travelled almost too well today, think he's been fooling us for ages |
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I didn't criticise Walsh last year, i thought the winner of the Albert Bartlett last year was potentially out of the very top draw. But i do think Townend hit the front too soon for a horse who doesn't do much when in front but thats merely my opinion which i am entitled to and in any event it's done now, can't change the ride/result. Move onto Thursday
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I backed BB pretty heavy and my vision pre race was him 4 or 5 lengths off the lead turning in and then eating up the ground on the hill. Instead he was travelling too well and Townend made a bad move imo in sweeping him to the front 4 or 5 wide around the tight turn on that course. I know Russell got impeded this time but generally the smart move is to hug the rail taking the bend and then pull him wide on the straight.
Remembering that Leopardstown win where he got outpaced before mowing down LL and LW its hard to imagine one/both of them would have outstayed him this time around but saying that it was either a tired or novicey fall, could argue either way. The trend about the 3 runs over fences is there for a reason, experience is vital.. Feel sorry for the jock tho and for my wallet.. As swagger says, just have to move on.. Looking to Bostons Angel to succeed where Boston Bob failed.. |
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wallace...One thing is for sure, if Bostons angel was in the lead at the last tomorrow and fell at that obstacle, you'd know your luck was out
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Just watched it again and BB's jumping was very novicy throughtout.Definitely believe that 2 run stat was correct. Sorry Swagger but a horse who doesn't do much in front!.Would love to know where that comes from? Personally I reckon he would have won and certainly has
more potential than any of todays rivals |
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The horse would have won if Ruby was jocked up. Anyone who thought it was a good ride needs to look again. The horse needed a nudge to the side, not hit with the whip right before taking a fence.
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Ruby fallen off enough of Mullins chasers this year so stop talking SHI"E
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Thanks for your input. Now go and crawl back under your rock.
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Could have been the fact he only had 2 chase starts. The winner had 5!! Lack of experience nearly caught out Simonsig!
According to Noel Meade on the morning line today, WPM thinks BB would have won if he were held onto longer. Lets see who wins at Punchestown or Aintree if they go. |
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Could have been the fact he only had 2 chase starts. The winner had 5!! Lack of experience nearly caught out Simonsig!
According to Noel Meade on the morning line today, WPM thinks BB would have won if he were held onto longer. Lets see who wins at Punchestown or Aintree if they go. |
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Could have been the fact he only had 2 chase starts. The winner had 5!! Lack of experience nearly caught out Simonsig!
According to Noel Meade on the morning line today, WPM thinks BB would have won if he were held onto longer. Lets see who wins at Punchestown or Aintree if they go. |
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He may lack experience, but he should still have won if the trainer had got proper instructions to the jockey to carry them out. I know some didn't like my comments about Mullins, but Arvika didn't get round, Boston Bob fell and SDC(who wasn't great over the fences) was a bit of a let down to the people who thought he was going to win. The jury is still out. Don't worry though. the trainer will be back to put people away again next year. They always send out big words on the short pricers that get beat....Quel Esprit..Boston Bob...Ponte Alexandre. Funny enough, Champagne Fever was showing them alot at home in the build up to the supreme, when Pinnochio started to talk about the 3 miler.
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Lol Graeme.
Fwiw, I thought Boston Bob would have won. Just a shame for my wallet Ruby chose wrongly. I said before the race I thought he had and they were probably trying to give Townend a big race Cheltenham win. |
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Aupcharlie never jumped that well either Graeme.
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Sint, Ruby certainly did chose wrongly. What's worse is that the more i watch the race the worse it gets. If i was the owner of Boston Bob i wouldn't be pleased that the horse who really ought to have won quite easily ended up falling on his 3rd start over fences. The worrying thing for them if they are worriers, is that it could damage the horses confidence. If you see it from the head on shot after the finish, then how often do you see a jockey strike a horse a couple of times just as it's finding his stride to take the final fence. It's an absolute rotter, and anyone taking a Mullins chaser A.P ought to factor it in as a negative. As for Ponte Alexandre, he's about as light on ghis feet as nelly the elephant. Whos idea was it for him to set a slow pace when he could have went for the 3 miler ?
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"Aupcharlie never jumped that well either Graeme."
Yup. I thought he looked a good prospect, but he's made an error every race. Maybe he should be trained by De Bromhead, but some of these owners like to try something different and look where it has gotten the Wylies and the Potts. Where's that horse who finished 2nd to Simonsig in the neptune ? |