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Byrne Group Plate (Handicap Chase) Grade 3 (CLASS 1) (5yo+) CH4
Good 2m5f 8 of the last 10 winners carrying 10-9 or less Horses officially rated 139 or less have won 7 of 8 runnings 9 of 10 winners finished in first 5 last time out (exception hadn't run that season) 9 of 10 winners had run in past 40 days 9 of 10 winners had run 2 to 6 times that season (exception hadn't run that season) 9 of 10 winners had run in 3 to 15 chases 9 of 10 winners had won 1 to 5 times over fences 9 of 10 winners had run in 12 or fewer handicap chases 9 of 10 winners had won no more than 2 handicap chases 9 of 10 winners had won 0 or 1 handicap chase that season 10 of 10 winners had previously won over 2M 2½F to 2M 5F 10 of 10 winners had won a class 3 or better chase 7 of 10 winners had finished in the first 4 in a graded chase (3 exceptions having first run in a graded chase) 8 of 10 winners had a hurdles rating of 130+ 10 of 10 winners had previously run at Cheltenham (4 had won, 4 had placed, 2 unplaced) Potentially a very tough nut to crack, and due to time constraints, can only give this a 'quick and dirty' and will have a much more thorough look when sipping a few alses in the boozer in Bishops Cleeve on Wednesday night! F6-140 Great Endeavour96 8 1446453 Tartak47 9 165-21 Giorgio Quercus54 7 541-19 Rebel Du Maquis232 7 U1231 Champion Court74 7 456951 Cannington Brook26 8 11188/ Jack The Giant706 10 13232 Hector´s Choice19 8 83134 Consigliere19 9 214712 Micheal Flips27 8 211323 Notus De La Tour46 6 61-B03 Matuhi74 9 7010F Finger Onthe Pulse96 11 13-892 Dan Breen12 7 5F94U2 Tullamore Dew26 10 8P-50 Crack Away Jack26 8 112111 Hunt Ball19 7 1-P3U0 Divers33 8 2-0385 Holmwood Legend26 11 F5U3P Gilbarry54 7 8112/0 Salut Flo96 7 3P111 Quincy Des Pictons79 8 732380 Mad Moose26 8 P2332 Ackertac54 7 9301U 22 Charingworth30 9 29P54 21 Fine Parchment12 9 FP-3P4 20 Gansey19 10 5U2340 19 Vino Griego26 7 F11P2 18 Educated Evans19 7 11PPP0 17 Schindler´s Gold61 10 25671U 16 Glam Gerry49 8 P28-P 15 Aimigayle26 9 125743 14 Rileyev12 7 311611 13 Niceonefrankie13 5x 6 51318 12 Carpincho47 8 22U322 11 The Cockney Mackem22 6 1P-P1P 10 Radetsky March15 9 2-1345 9 Bottman47 7 PF336F 8 Riguez Dancer29 8 724303 7 Life Of A Luso19 8 94-436 6 Pigeon Island79 9 2327418 5 Kilcrea Asla26 11 41332F 4 Pentiffic12 9 412PP 3 Free World123 10 P4572 2 Plein Pouvoir5 9 41F233 1 Ballyoliver7 8 Step 1 - Eliminate horses rated 141 and higher. This is normally a race for the lower rated / weighted horses. This leaves: 2-0385 Holmwood Legend26 11 10-Sep Keiran Burke100 140 157 165 F5U3P Gilbarry54 7 10-Jun Jonjo O´Neill25 137 125 144 8112/0 Salut Flo96 7 10-Jun David Pipe56 137 124 142 3P111 Quincy Des Pictons79 8 10-Jun Alan Jones 137 148 158 732380 Mad Moose26 8 10-Apr Nigel Twiston-Davies70 135 149 163 P2332 Ackertac54 7 10-Mar Nigel Twiston-Davies70 134 109 165 9301U 22 Charingworth30 9 10-Feb Ferdy Murphy60 Lucy Alexander5 133 149 162 29P54 21 Fine Parchment12 9 10-Feb Charlie Mann29 Noel Fehily 133 149 166 FP-3P4 20 Gansey19 10 10-Feb Sue Smith18 133 122 166 5U2340 19 Vino Griego26 7 10-Jan Gary Moore50 132 134 170 F11P2 18 Educated Evans19 7 10-Jan Nigel Twiston-Davies70 132 160 167 11PPP0 17 Schindler´s Gold61 10 01-Sep Dr Richard Newland25 130 127 170 25671U 16 Glam Gerry49 8 01-Sep C A Murphy50 130 95 159 P28-P 15 Aimigayle26 9 09-Dec Suzy Smith Colin Bolger 129 159 167 125743 14 Rileyev12 7 09-Dec Venetia Williams60 129 144 166 311611 13 Niceonefrankie13 5x 6 09-Dec Venetia Williams60 129 160 171 51318 12 Carpincho47 8 09-Nov Sarah Humphrey 128 131 166 22U322 11 The Cockney Mackem22 6 09-Nov Nigel Twiston-Davies70 128 157 161 1P-P1P 10 Radetsky March15 9 09-Nov Mark Bradstock 128 — — 2-1345 9 Bottman47 7 09-Oct Tim Vaughan50 127 134 160 PF336F 8 Riguez Dancer29 8 09-Oct Ferdy Murphy60 Lucy Alexander5 127 124 156 724303 7 Life Of A Luso19 8 09-Aug Paul Henderson 125 141 158 94-436 6 Pigeon Island79 9 09-Aug Nigel Twiston-Davies70 125 147 154 2327418 5 Kilcrea Asla26 11 09-Jul Graeme McPherson50 124 154 158 41332F 4 Pentiffic12 9 09-Jul Venetia Williams60 124 133 163 412PP 3 Free World123 10 09-Jun Warren Greatrex100 123 132 158 P4572 2 Plein Pouvoir5 9 09-Feb Venetia Williams60 119 133 149 41F233 1 Ballyoliver7 8 08-Oct Venetia Williams60 113 142 148 Step 2 - Eliminate horses finishing outside of the top 4 last time out (completed starts). This reduces the field to: 3P111 Quincy Des Pictons79 8 10-Jun Alan Jones 137 148 158 P2332 Ackertac54 7 10-Mar Nigel Twiston-Davies70 134 109 165 9301U 22 Charingworth30 9 10-Feb Ferdy Murphy60 Lucy Alexander5 133 149 162 29P54 21 Fine Parchment12 9 10-Feb Charlie Mann29 Noel Fehily 133 149 166 FP-3P4 20 Gansey19 10 10-Feb Sue Smith18 133 122 166 F11P2 18 Educated Evans19 7 10-Jan Nigel Twiston-Davies70 132 160 167 25671U 16 Glam Gerry49 8 01-Sep C A Murphy50 130 95 159 125743 14 Rileyev12 7 09-Dec Venetia Williams60 129 144 166 311611 13 Niceonefrankie13 5x 6 09-Dec Venetia Williams60 129 160 171 22U322 11 The Cockney Mackem22 6 09-Nov Nigel Twiston-Davies70 128 157 161 724303 7 Life Of A Luso19 8 09-Aug Paul Henderson 125 141 158 P4572 2 Plein Pouvoir5 9 09-Feb Venetia Williams60 119 133 149 41F233 1 Ballyoliver7 8 08-Oct Venetia Williams60 113 142 148 Step 3 - Eliminate horses not having run within the last 40 days 9301U 22 Charingworth30 9 10-02 Ferdy Murphy60 Lucy Alexander5 133 149 162 29P54 21 Fine Parchment12 9 10-02 Charlie Mann29 Noel Fehily 133 149 166 FP-3P4 20 Gansey19 10 10-02 Sue Smith18 133 122 166 F11P2 18 Educated Evans19 7 10-01 Nigel Twiston-Davies70 132 160 167 125743 14 Rileyev12 7 9-13 Venetia Williams60 129 144 166 311611 13 Niceonefrankie13 5x 6 9-12 Venetia Williams60 129 160 171 22U322 11 The Cockney Mackem22 6 9-11 Nigel Twiston-Davies70 128 157 161 724303 7 Life Of A Luso19 8 9-08 Paul Henderson 125 141 158 P4572 2 Plein Pouvoir5 9 9-02 Venetia Williams60 119 133 149 41F233 1 Ballyoliver7 8 8-11 Venetia Williams60 113 142 148 Step 4 - Eliminate horses not having won a Class 3 chase or better 9301U 22 Charingworth30 9 10-02 Ferdy Murphy60 Lucy Alexander5 133 149 162 29P54 21 Fine Parchment12 9 10-02 Charlie Mann29 Noel Fehily 133 149 166 FP-3P4 20 Gansey19 10 10-02 Sue Smith18 133 122 166 F11P2 18 Educated Evans19 7 10-01 Nigel Twiston-Davies70 132 160 167 125743 14 Rileyev12 7 9-13 Venetia Williams60 129 144 166 311611 13 Niceonefrankie13 5x 6 9-12 Venetia Williams60 129 160 171 724303 7 Life Of A Luso19 8 9-08 Paul Henderson 125 141 158 Step 5 - Eliminate horses with a hurdles rating< 130 Applying Step 5 would leave only Gansey, so he must be my (very tentative) ante-post selection. |
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Have already had a small speculative dabble on Quincy Des Pictons for this too!
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THU 15 MAR 2012
Fulke Walwyn Kim Muir Challenge Cup (Handicap Chase) (Amateur Riders) (CLASS 2) (5yo+ 0-140) 3m1f110y 8 of 10 winners have been aged 8 or 9 9 of 10 winners (last 7) carried 10-10 or more (after claim) In the last 4 runnings all 16 places were filled by horses rated 126 to 140. In the past 2 runnings all 8 places were filled by horses rated within 11lbs of the top weight. 6 of 10 winners finished 9th or worse on their last start (4 others finished 1st or 2nd) 8 of 10 winners placed on 1 or both of last 2 starts (2 exceptions trained by Martin Pipe) 10 of 10 winners ran in a class 3 or higher handicap chase on last run over fences 10 of 10 winners ran over 3M+ last time out 8 of 10 winners had won over 3M+ (both exceptions had finished 2nd over 3M+) 10 of 10 winners posted their highest RPR in a chase over 3M+ 8 of 10 winners had run in 1 to 8 handicap chases 9 of 10 winners (last 8) had won no more than 2 handicap chases 8 of 10 winners were 1st, 2nd or 3rd season chasers (2 exceptions finished in first 5 in JLT Specialty H'cap Chase at previous Festival) The last 3 winners had been placed in a handicap hurdle in 1 of their previous 3 starts The trends I have applied to the race are as follows, in order to get to my final shortlist of 5: Concentrate on horses aged 8 or 9 (8 out of last 10 winners) Eliminate horses carrying less than 10'10 Eliminate horses who have not won over 3m+ Eliminate horses who failed to finish in first 3 on one of their last 2 starts Eliminate horses who didn't run in a class 3 or better chase over 3m+ last time out Eliminate Irish trained horses as have a terrible record Plus another of my own: Eliminate horses who were pulled up last time out This leaves the following shortlist of 5 that I will be concentrating on should they turn up on the day: NO. HORSE AGE WGT 2112U1 Helpston19 8 11-09 FP-551 Mostly Bob74 9 11-05 1P/1-4 Summery Justice117 8 11-03 2F11F Baile Anrai26 8 11-02 15220 30 Time For Spring27 8 10-12 Slightly put off by the long absence of Summery Justice, and Time For Spring might just be a little low in the weights and may struggle to get in. At this stage, my favoured three from the above would be: Helpston Mostly Bob Baile Anrai (backed for a different race already, so kind of hope he doesn't make it here) |
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So, where are we so far:
Tuesday 1:30 Montbazon @ 14 & Tetlami @ 16.5-18.5 2:05 Sprinter Sacre @ 2.1-2.16 2:40 Baile Anrai @ 18 & Blenheim Brook @ 28 (not confident either will be running now) 3:20 Hurricane Fly (will back on the day) 4:00 Sizing Australia @ 6 (may have saver on Scotsirish) 4:40 Quevega @ 1.66 (will be lumping on again if one or more of the above come in) 5:15 Bless The Wings @ 8.8 & Quincy Des Pictons @ 20 Wednesday 1:30 Teaforthree @ 8.4 2:05 Monksland @ 7 2:40 Join Together @ 10.5 3:20 Sizing Europe @ 2.04-2.1 4:00 no bet yet but will look at Tenor Nivenais & Batonnier if running on day 4:40 Kazlian @ 9 (and will look at Vendor on the day) 5:15 Clonbanan Lad @ 19-21 & Sir Johnson @ 20 Thursday 1:30 Shortlist stage - like Sir Des Champs, but will look on day 2:05 Poole Master @ 17.5 (looks unlikely runner) 2:40 Albertas Run @ 10.5 3:20 Big Buck's (sizeable wager on day) 4:00 No bet yet but looking at Gansey & Quincey Des Pictons 4:40 Shortlist of Helpston, Mostly Bob & Baile Anrai Friday 1:30 Pearl Swan @ 8.2-8.6 2:05 ??? 2:40 Boston Bob @ 8 ![]() 3:20 ??? 4:00 Barbers Shop @ 14.5 & Salsify @ 8.2 4:40 ??? 5:15 ??? More work to do for Thursday and Friday. Good luck to everyone! |
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good luck JOCI
have really enjoyed reading your posts |
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Looking forward to it now, picked up 3pm, drive down for couple of hours and stop for a pint in the Rising Sun on Cleeve Hill, to look forward to the week ahead!
Only lost a small ante-post on Blenheim Brook who was not declared for the 2:40 tomorrow (for which I have Baile Anrai who was declared thankfully). |
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good luck JOCI really enjoyed the thread
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Good luck mate been fun
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Harry, unlucky mate but I'm sure you did alright. Hope you took some of the 60+ for the National
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well judo yes a desperate disappointment pal but was on ew...shame because had a huge bet on sunny last year in william hill trophy and was huge on becauseicantsee this...racing is a sick game at times judo...horse was given a lovely ride as well but what can you do when the other horse has 14lbs in hand...
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Just back from an exhausted four days.
Managed 7 winners in all (one less than the eight of last year) and a couple of near misses. Day 1: Sprinter Sacre & Quevega Day 2: Teaforthree Day 3: Riverside Theatre Big Buck's Day 4: Synchronised & Salsify Worst moment of the Festival - putting Riverside Theatre to beat Alberta's Run in an exacta, only to discover that I'd put race 4 instead of race 3 on ths lip, and ended up with So Young to beat Big Buck's. Gutted of course. Hope you all had some success! |
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Cheers Joci was exhausting and bloody cold Thursday,but all worthwhile all time and effort some of us put in.
Had some good singles ante-post Bobs Worth, Riverside Theatre, Sir Des Champs,amongst others but doubles were a shambles learn something every year. |
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