So nothing to beat then?

Zaidpour monster Alvarado?

Mullins said Zaidpour would love the ground today perhaps he doesnt need your advice on what is best for him.

Cue Card (40/17) , Spirit Son (13/2) , Sprinter Sacre (9) , Recession Proof (10) , Zaidpour (10) , Al Ferof (16) , Gibb River (20) , Hidden Universe (25) , Unaccompanied (25) , Marsh Warbler (33) , Rock On Ruby (33) , Day Of A Lifetime (35) , So Young (38) , Act Of Kalanisi (50) , Aikman (50) , Dunraven Storm (50) , Earlson Gray (50) , First Lieutenant (50) , Gagewell Flyer (50) , Magens Star (50)  - Others 50 or more

Joe should stick to selling Esso Blue horse is a rag and wins nothing.

All this horse did is run in the same race as Menorah. The fact is he was getting 8lbs from Silviniaco Conti and beat him 1/2 length

Your dislike for this horse is well documented. At least get your fact right.

The Doctor has a dream! Anyone backing this horse in this race at this price wants their head seeing to imo.

Never worry what is in behind as it may just be a tree

Dont ignore the obvious either. There is a time to look outside the box but this isnt one of them.

Roll up your sleeves guys and bet like men. You dont get this type of opportunity very often.

Will mak or break the week for many and CUE CARD bursting clear off the home bend is sure to set many a pulse a racing.

Good Luck Layers !! Backers, just keep smiling.

It troubles me that he found little off the bridle last time.

I'll be laying 2 out.

Sj, he found nothing! zilch! nada! watch the race again and if that horse quickens when asked to in the home straight well then i'm jesus

Hope Tizzard doesnt try for a head in chest job as that will end up with face palms all around when he gets caught up the hill.

That race is a complete red herring lads. 4furlong sprint. Ignore it.

Not quickening and not finding are totally different imo Goretski

It is hard to look beyond him so start lumping it, your look back and say what a right mug i was not lumping that lol

Dark Destroyer I am a bit lost at what you are saying about getting my facts right SC did give Cue Card 8lbs when he was beaten 1/w length into 3rd please explain.

Fetivalfanatic I think you'll find BG will definitely ride Spirit Son.

Can't believe how many people think Cue Card is something special. Willie Mullins and Nicky Henderson both think he's very beatable and have both nominated their runners as their best chance of a Cheltenham winner because they can see right through the hype.

You really should ask yourselves what has this horse done over hurdles to even deserve being favourite for such a good race as the Supreme.

Silviano Conti 3rd went on to finish 24 lengths behind Mille Chief, Crystal Bonus beaten 35 lengths by Grand Crus, Astracad beaten 21 lengths by Bob's Worth. Attaglance turned over at 1/2 fav at Market Rasen, Dungraven Storm last of 4 to Toubab.

Something had to finish 2nd to Menorah who couldn't have won any easier if he tried. Apart from that his form is rubbish for a Supreme Hurdle fav.

Compare that to what Dunguib had achieved last season and he found not one but 2 better than him. Wouldn't be me as I said before.

if u watched the race at chelt when menorah beat cc u would of seen the race was ran at an absolute crawl turning for home any number of horses could of won an deff didnt suit cc as he was pulling for so long an at the end of the race when menorah went past i expected cc to fold but he didnt an finished 2nd imo menorah had a better kick at the finish i dont know how people can knock cc after all in the supreme they are bound to go alot quicker which will suit cc an with course form on his side it will take 1 hell of a beast to beat him imo ,as for conti this horse obviously didnt run his race latest having to give weight to decent animals over a trip far to short this horse deff needs further an only got so close to cc at chelt cause of the very slow race so imo u cant compare that form anyone backing against cc are only looking for value an i cant believe cue card is 9/4- 5-2 cause he looks alot more solid than Dunquib last year an is much better price

I don't think I've watched any race as much as I have that one and hear what you are saying but there are other things to consider.

The difference between good horses and top class ones is, when they are fighting fit like the horses who took part in the International were. they can adapt to different situations.

Take Hurricane Fly for example or Big Buck's if you like. Doesn't matter to them how the race is run they don't stop like they just hit a brick wall.

If the horse had blown up I could understand it it but the horse was A1 according to everyone before the race.

I agree Silviano Conti never ran his race but he's a horse who was perhaps flattered by early season form. Either way nothing alters the fact he is not a 2 miler and already beaten Cue Card was losing ground on him all the way to the line.

Nothing changes the fact that for the first time in his life Cue card came up against a really good animal and the minute the pressure was on he cocked his jaw and found ziltch.

I have to disagree with you on Dunguib. Dunguib was regarded in many quarters as the greatest thing to come out of Ireland since Arkle and was being spoke of as unbeatable almost to a man. Many still think he would have beaten Menorah but for his jockey taking a guided tour and losing lengths at the top of the hill. He certainly was finishing better than the front 2 and it's hard to argue with that.

I just can't see Cue Crad getting hs own way anymore in this Supreme than Dunguib or Binocular did in theirs. Spirit Son is being spoke about at Sevenbarrows in the same breath as Binocular and some say Sprinter Sacre is better than him. Willie Mullins can improve horses a stone between races when he has Cheltenham on his mind and anyone who thinks beating Recession Proof will be easy think again. Get Me Out Of Here's Tote win was certainly no better than his.

It's all well and fine imagining all Joe Tizzard has to do is say go and Cue Card will leave them all for dead but when you got a cavalry surrounding you and coming at you from all angles you better be able to find more than you did when Menorah came at you.

There's an old saying among jockeys: You need to be 110% fit just to run at Cheltenham let alone win so be prepared to have at least a couple of surprise runners to be in the shake up. Add them to an already good field and you get a much better race than Cue Card has ever run in before including the International.

You may think that's bollox but make no mistake Menorah found winning against Get me Out of Here and Dunguib a lot tougher than kicking Cue Card into touch.

Nothing Cue Card has beaten would even be sighted in this race and that has got to be a big worry to anyone who has taken the plunge at short odds.

Talking of which you'll get 3/1 even 7/2 with ease on the day. The bookies will be fighting to take your money as they have all week to get it back should he win, but alas Sevenbarrows or Bellwood cottages will be the ones celebrating imvho.

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Dark Destroyer I am a bit lost at what you are saying about getting my facts right SC did give Cue Card 8lbs when he was beaten 1/w length into 3rd please explain.

Fetivalfanatic I think you'll find BG will definitely ride Spirit Son.

Can't believe how many people think Cue Card is something special. Willie Mullins and Nicky Henderson both think he's very beatable and have both nominated their runners as their best chance of a Cheltenham winner because they can see right through the hype.

You really should ask yourselves what has this horse done over hurdles to even deserve being favourite for such a good race as the Supreme.

Silviano Conti 3rd went on to finish 24 lengths behind Mille Chief, Crystal Bonus beaten 35 lengths by Grand Crus, Astracad beaten 21 lengths by Bob's Worth. Attaglance turned over at 1/2 fav at Market Rasen, Dungraven Storm last of 4 to Toubab.

Something had to finish 2nd to Menorah who couldn't have won any easier if he tried. Apart from that his form is rubbish for a Supreme Hurdle fav.

Compare that to what Dunguib had achieved last season and he found not one but 2 better than him. Wouldn't be me as I said before.

Of course you could flip it the other way and say how impessive was Silvinaco before that and not just one bad run [;)] You could also talk about the Dunraven and recession proof lines

Yeah I agree

Valid point on the form they take into the race CD but consider how many horses either couldn't run or were held up in their work due to a real bad spell of weather. I do wonder what people will make of Menorah if Cue Card is soundly beaten though.

Horses do improve and no doubt Menorah has but Jonjo's reaction to last years Supreme form was to immediately say GMOOH would go chasing. He obviously thought the form well below CH standard.

Since then Menorah has beaten a handicapper giving away lost of weight and won a race which may or may not be up to Champion Hurdle standards. The fact he has never faced any of the main opponents there is no real way of telling.

The thing is everyone is hinging their belief in Cue card on Menorah and really he was so superior to him I think it's foolhardy not to look at what the horse actually achieved and not what he didn't.

I am well aware of what Spirit Son beat but I am also well aware of the fact he is thought to be one of, if not the best young hurdlers in Nicky Henderson's yard. I've actually been backing him since day 1 when he was 20/1-25/1 after he kicked the fancied Palace Jester into touch so I've been following the market very closely. What was very noticeable was 3 days before he ran again the money came pouring in for him 20/1 to 10/1-14/1  unlike his stable companion who wasn't backed at all. His drop in price was down to the bookies cutting him after he won and not to any punt.

I'm betting they have a very special young hurdler in Spirit Son and he'll prove to be a much better than anything Cue Card has beaten to date.

Even if he is that is no assurance he'll win the Supreme. Most of us never had a clue who Captian Cee Bee was until he jumped to the front in the Supreme.

One things for sure for Cue Card backers:-looking at AP prices it always looks easy, but it looks a little bit harder when you see the actual racecard and then when they're at the post reality hits you right between the eyes and you realize there's more than one horse in the race with a chance.

Good luck to all.