Trading is completely different, good luck to you, I say. Talkin up the toothfairy ya sneaky

bugger

B. Houli is possibly worse than Setanta O'Hopeless was.... and that's saying something.

Winning the Flag? ffs

ya takin the piss even talking about it. Tx for the chuckle though.

Dude, you know I'm ramping. The evidence is there from weeks ago. I took all the 90s I could eat before they lost to the Bombers. I am not being sneaky about it. I basically declared it

I thought this thread was about how bad Carlton are !!

Three, smart arse

Better get the oil out, too. I think shiny is better.

Carlton always thought having the best midfield would win them a flag, should have drafted better when they were tanking

Ah Scotty's back. Good to see it isn't an imposter. Same biased inane drivel as we have always been able to count on. Good to see some things never change

I do like Collingwood and I still like the Hawks. I know they have their problems, but come the business end they will be going a lot better than now. Al Clarkson is a genius.
Eagles have looked good, but two really poor efforts in amongst all that and a stack of injuries makes me wonder if they can maintain momentum for the entire season.

Hawthorn are a team of bludgers. Can't see how anyone could think they would get close to a Grand Final.

You blokes are giving NO respect to Adelaide,who..with the draw they have..finish top 2..therefore have 2 home finals..gonna be about the place,speshally if the teams around keep getting long term injuries..you gotta have a saver on them..

Adelaide are yet to have one injury, while all teams around them have been decimated at times, making them well below the best in my view. They surely will cop their share at some point which will really test them.

You are right about their draw, a huge leg up which gives them a chance to finish high enough to threaten

Eddie trying to find Mick Malthouse a job, will it work???

Who cares Eddie is a media person and is entitled to his opinion like any other media person this bull about him being club president so what, it means sweet f/a I'd turn around and tell sticks to stick it where the sun don't shine, and I'm not eddies biggest fans either but he was spot on Ratten did nothing to stop the trend of that game, they have have been nothing short of pathetic for weeks. The craap that hasn't coming out from that mob since the start since before the season has even started has been ridiculous and any coach worth his salt would have put kibosh on that big time, that plus the multi coloured from players who have in effect achieved nothing yet was sure fire sign they were getting ahead of themselves yet nothing was said. Judd been well down on his usual form as well they can't seriously still expect him to carry them.  Young bootsma was one of the few carlton players who put in all night and could hold his head up  at the end of the game pity a few more of his much vaunted colleagues didn't follow his example and again that's an indictment on these players

how is not on the table they've been pathetic, rember they told all and sundry this was their year I should say shouted it from the rooftops before the season even started lose this one and if they then get a touch up from refreshed eagles at subi then they're gone. malthouse would be an obvious choice. Ratten's devoid of any tactical nous,if they had stopped playing dry weather footy at halftime and went back to basics they could have easily got back into the port game but they didn't, bad efforts by the players and bad coaching.

no neeed to trade ugly,they are r gawn!

I have them getting 11-12 wins. Will be touch and go.

ziggy some hope for watson he wasn't bad at all last night thought bootsma was very stiff to be dropped as well

has looked slow for the past 5 or 6 weeks nick he must be carrying an injury again and completely down on confidence, never seenhim  so fumbly than he has been recently

don't share your enthusiasm for watson ,whilst agreeing he was better last nite....good to see joseph in the side AGAIN...he is my pick as the worst Carlton player since Athorn in the early 90's(to qualify for worst player i reckon they have to play more than  22 games.)

I would like to see Lucas get 5 or 6 games in a row so a proper evaluation of his worth could be made.They have a formula that states that the side must have a certain number of 'rotational' on-ballers each week so mugs like joseph,armfield,curnow,ellard and mclean will continue to get games at the expense of guys like lucas.Doesn't help that Yarran is carrying and that they rushed both scotland and carrazo back.

further warnock is grossly overated and gor his arse handed to hm last nite...plays from behind continually and should be traded ASAP.Wouldn't hurt to dispose of Gibbs as well before he  becomes devalued.

These may seem radical steps but sitting on our hands isn't going to work.

tbf judd was crook all week..he doesnt get the chop outs and blocks like he did at west coast either,rohan jones made a career out of blocking for judd,cousins ,kerr..p1ss weak of west coast supporters to boo him

imo