methinks the masses are starting to cotton on jez....lets hope so

julias first "backflip "should come this friday as the miners have twigged that the spin about "consulting" about the  resources tax is just talk.Miners are  correct to set a deadline as  hulia will call an election asap to capitalize on her honeymoon period.
  I was  vomiting yesterday as the same old same old rudd tactic of being photographed with plenty of kids around her was splattered around the media outlets.Same old same old coming this friday. No changes will be made.
  We all know the labour prime minister is the puppet of the powerbrokers and must do their bidding.Bring on the election hulia- your not fooling anyone.

Wombleoz:

So sad that you proudly defend the disgraceful, deceitful, rotting position of your Labor state governments - hurting the people, they vouch to protect the most - the battlers.

More tax, less policy, scandals galore, plenty of spin and deception after deception.

Not only a comrade, but a blind one.

Clearly, the blind leading the blind.

Federal Poll : Finding No. 4519 :

On June 25-28 2010, the four days immediately following Julia Gillard’s swearing in as Australia’s new Prime Minister, support for the L-NP is 51.5% (up 4.5% since the Face-to-Face Morgan Poll conducted June 19/20, 2010) ahead of the ALP 48.5%, (down 4.5%) according to this week’s special telephone Morgan Poll.

If a Federal Election were held today the Liberal-National Coalition would have won a close election to defeat the ALP according to the Morgan Poll.

The telephone Morgan Poll showed an L-NP primary vote of 45.5% (up 4.5% since the Face-to-Face Morgan Poll of June 19/20, 2010) well ahead of the ALP 38.5% (down 2.5%) with the Greens down 3.5% to 9%, Family First 1.5% (unchanged) and Independents/ Others up 1.5% to 5.5%.



What have I told you about counting your chickens so early Wombleoz?

A great job?

Are you serious?

The expansion of land release and development in the ACT (and the issue of affordable home ownership) is under great threat in the ACT, courtesy of the Greens.

They have no ability to be balanced or rational, and consider life in the "real world".  I will even say....seriously....they block policy from the ALP that doesn't deserve blocking. 

There are so many misconceptions about the Green in the community - all total BS.  People aren't aware of what they're voting for (besides a Labor preference) when they vote Green. 

Wombleoz.  Last time Tasmania had a minority government involving the Greens - the state went back 20 years.  If you weren't there, you wouldn't know.  The Green's support dissolved.

(Preference flow from last election from Greens was 80%)

Um, Wombleoz.  The Labor party accept they will not receive 80% flow on from preferences.  Your starting to sound like the federal member for Canberra, Bob McMullan. 

He was saying early last week, Newspoll had Labor well in front and in a comfortable position, no problem at all....business as usual....we're all behind Kevin.  He even started throwing accusations around about different commentators (including of left persuasion) who were expressing concern about Labors vote. 

How the fk does that polling have anything to do with the Green's and their preferencing options?



You will not get 80% of preferences.  Well below that in fact.

I'm going to be a Parliament House this morning - no doubt will hear Julia's spin and lies.

8:30am AEST press conference to announce her back down on the great big super tax on mining.

Then a weekend visit to the Governor General.

The only thing this change proves is what a total crock of shyt the adds the miners paid for were.

Cost of deal as 1.5 billion is questionable MrBen, could be a lot more- no idea who came up with that figure

Wombleoz.

The flow from the last election was 80%.

Bob Brown has made it crystal clear over the past months.
1) Greens will not formally recommend a second preference to Labor.  (ETS trashing to blame).
2)What will likely occur is a 60:40 share for the ALP - at best.

Changes the scenery quite a bit when you take into account all polling (published) is based on last elections preference flow.

Now I could be mistaken, I've been on the drink all night but I hear that Abbott has a new favourite song by Wendy James that goes something like this

I don't want your money honey, I want your love :)

Surely he isn't serious, the miners have done a deal to pay $10 billion extra in tax but he doesn't want it - WHAT THE???

I though the Abbott moment would come after the election, it's arrived early LOL

I love the previous silence from wombleoz on matters he clearly doesn't understand.

Its gold. 

The ALP needs more supporters such as yourself..........


Same horse, different jockey!

Taxes, chronic failure, backflips, broken promises, litany of botched projects and debt - this is an unescapable record for the Rudd-Gillard Government in this election.

More tricks and excuses from Labor and you swallow it like honey Wombleoz.

Super contributions - Employers pay this Wombleoz (besides public sector) - don't let Mr Swan lie to you about it otherwise - in addition it is now likely that employees will have to cough up for most of the increase out of their own pocket.  Courtesy of this massive backflip from the Rudd-Gillard Government.

Infrastructure = What, more billions wasted, like we've seen so far in the Education Revolution on Ms Gillards watch?  Excellent, just what the country needs.

Lower company tax = No bingo.  With this fanciful "deal" made yesterday the govt has announced it will "SHELVE" indefinetely a large part of this company tax cut.  Nice try though.

This is shambolic.  Sussex Street has come to Canberra.

New leader, clean slate?
No way! Same horse, different jockey.

Its alright AP.

Rudd-Gillard Labor have us on the straight and narrow.

After all, they've proven themselves with their record.

Julia has just done so much in a week, she is so much better at spinning than Kevin.

Don't worry AP.  As she has said over the past few days....
She understands your anxiety.  She feels it.

AP - what concerns me the most, is Labor threw the baby out with the bathwater.

We needed a responsible response to the GFC with stimulus, BUT

NOT a typical Labor spending spree of BILLIONS with a vast majority wasted.  Our money.  Wasted.

What if the proverbial hits the fan later this year or next?.....

Get the rosary beads out if Gillard is PM, let me tell you!

You can really feel the Sussex Street puppetry-spin-politics moving into Canberra.........[>o]

I think I would of preferred Rudd than Gillard if this country has to cop a few over the side in terms of rough economic times.

Gillard will drive this country into the ground.  Its just a matter of how deep she goes.

Mr Abbott may be a devout catholic and have some strong socially conservative views - but they are personal opinion - and they can be seperated from his centre-right ideology.

But Ms Gillard has strong deep ideological views, and I have no doubt she will honour these views in office.  And they're not centre-left.  She wasn't a Socialist Forum/Fabian Society senior for no good reason.

Anyway.......


Now, where did I put my rosary beads.........................................................................

The new tax directly funds an increase in super contributions for low paid workers Jez - i.e. the extra $500.  Of course employers will reduce wage increases to pay for the move from 9% to 12% BUT it happens over 8 years or so and people will be better off in the long run, so a little short term pain for long term gain.

AP what's wrong with penalty rates?  If someone is forced to give up their weekends why shouldn't they be compensated for doing so - only fair I'd suggest.

28th of August guys - will be a very interesting election campaign.

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Penalty rates have kicked back in from July 01st, won't take long for unemployment to skyrocket.Construction Industry slowing massively and squeeze on hourly rates.Reportedly from $45 to currently $30-$32.

aussie P is that australia wide or just nsw? I heard it was just nsw?There is no way retail can just absorb those rates so prices just have to rise.Im in sydney at the moment and was surprised today{sunday} how many shops were closed.Value of all business that employs people on weekends will value., more labor led wealth destruction.

It's been an interesting debate on here. I am what is commonly called a swinging voter. I have voted for both the major parties in the past.

I don't know how old some of the posters on here are, but I can tell you with a fair degree of certainty, that if the old Labour Party blokes like Arty Callwell got out of their graves and took a look at todays party, they wouldn't recognise it. Fact is that the Labour part have, since Bob Hawkes' days, moved to right. Yes, they are still reasonably strong on social issues, but they have managed to convince the big end of town that they won't fck them completely.

I have always felt that Abbot was unelectable. It is my opinion, that the general public don't want a hard right wing person of strong religious beliefs as Prime Minister of this country. The trouble is, that just like the Labour Party, the Libs don't have a lot of talent on their front bench and he virtually became leader by default. Remember, he only won by 1 vote against Turnbull and Fran Bailey, a Turnbull supporter, was in hospital and couldn't vote.

The hardened Lib supporters are saying that Gillard backflipped. The hardened Labour supporters say that she just used her brains and worked out a compromise that everyone could live with. I reckon that the figures are rubbery. Others say they aren't.

But here's the thing. It doesn't really matter what I think, or what most of the posters on here think. Not because our vote doesn't count, but because the mining companies have told us what THEY think is going to happen.

If they thought that Abbot, who, to this very day, still opposes the tax, had any chance of winning, there is no way known that they would have reached a compromise with Gillard. They have told Abbot, and the Australian public for that matter, that they are prepared to pay more tax, that they are happy with the deal that's been done, and as for Julia, well she's the ants pants for doing the negotiations in the manner that she has.

The only major, miner, to have come out against the tax, is Clive Palmer and he is both a card carrying member of the Liberal Party, and by far its largest financial contributor. So his protestations have no credibilty.

The hard facts, from an unbiased poster, are that Gillard will win. She will lose seats, but hold on to Government. Abbot and the Libs will run the mother of all negative campaigns, but the general public especially the women, appear to like the woman, and I reckon that the more he knocks her, the less popular he'll become.