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By:
Canberra bookie
When: 23 Jun 10 12:38
You may well be pleased with the first left wing female Prime Minister, Wombleoz and a potential strong shift to the left.....

But Australian's may well send a strong different message.

Senior members of Labor are calling of this, "madness" in addition to comments like "we're self-destructing".

Dear oh dear.
By:
wombleoz
When: 23 Jun 10 12:38
Rudd will step down - Julia has the support of her faction, the left, and has been asked to takeover by the right - i.e she has the party united behind her.

She will do a quick deal on the RSPT and then start ripping into Tony, he will say something stupid and she's home and hosed Cool
By:
Canberra bookie
When: 23 Jun 10 12:41
LMAO

Not sure you realise the history this brings?

Not only in terms of first female PM & being a leftie.

Various political factors at play here.

You want to believe Gillard is home & hosed - goodluck to you.

"he will say something stupid" ROFL

Again, turn it up.....

You don't think this whole mess will be quickly forgotten by the public, this Labor party is F##KED.
By:
wombleoz
When: 23 Jun 10 12:46
we'll see, interesting few months coming up either way
By:
Kye
When: 23 Jun 10 12:49
Rudd will no doubt throw a tantrum tomorrow. Could be worse than Latham.
By:
Canberra bookie
When: 23 Jun 10 12:51
lol, I am thinking the same Kye.

He won't take this well.....he will spit the dummy, big time.

The control freak being overpowered.

My god, after 12 years of Coalition government, Labor get elected and after two and half years of disasterous governing the headlines beaming across the country in the midst of leadership speculation is....

LABOR IN CRISIS
By:
Canberra bookie
When: 23 Jun 10 12:58
LMAO

Wombleoz.

Do you think this would be happening right now if Labor strategists believed the current primary vote would win them the election?
By:
Kye
When: 23 Jun 10 13:07
Standing down according to Sky.

Rudd will disappear for a few weeks before his dummy spit
By:
Kye
When: 23 Jun 10 13:26
In denial. Still a control freak & major dummy spit if he loses. Julia won't be on his Xmas card list.
By:
wombleoz
When: 23 Jun 10 13:35
Should've stood down, bye Kevin - BRING ON JULIA
By:
Kye
When: 23 Jun 10 13:42
Perhaps one more backflip tomorrow morning after all Labour MPs dont return his calls tonight
By:
wombleoz
When: 23 Jun 10 13:44
Good point Kye, could happen
By:
Aussie Punter
When: 23 Jun 10 14:54
No matter what you think of him lads , it can't be denied that he isn't  owned by factions and is prepared to stand up to faceless powerbrokers and the cur's who have orchestrated their media puppets. Where has this conviction been?.Stick it to them to the end I say.
It is a sad day indeed when our prime minister is removed other than by the people through the vote.
Gillard has been clearly pushed into the role.Liberals are a certainty if they lynch Rudd.
Will not be voting for them if he gets kicked.Will help let the country see what a nutcase Abbott is PM.[;)]
By:
wombleoz
When: 23 Jun 10 21:23
Rudd is dud, he was the right person at the right time but he isn't anymore. Labor would sneak home at 35% primary vote - Julia will make that 40ish

Well done Kevin though, got rid of Howard - did some good things especially quick decisions which kept us out of recession.  Too many backflips though, too much micromanagement and the people stopping listening killed him off BUT he has maintained a base Julia can build on and win with so all is good.
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 23 Jun 10 22:15
After reading through your comments over the past few weeks wombleoz.  Your above post is laughable.

You've gone back on all your arguments to support Rudd Labor then as soon as a left wing extremist comes along its straight on the bandwagon.

You can smirk & grin about the prospect of a strong socialist agenda coming across this country, but despite your ludicrous claims, that is NOT what Australian's want - and you'll be out of office for a generation once this short experiment ends.

Been a long long long time since a leftie has become Prime Minister from the hard left, this is a massive gamble.

Its all excitement and balloons now you've dogged on Kevin Rudd, your puppet, but this gamble has been played out in front of the Australian people - I'm not sure how they swallow the Labor Party making decisions & playing heavy knifing politics under their noses.

Don't go counting your chickens.

Interesting times ahead.
By:
AFL
When: 23 Jun 10 23:16
Laugh The Libs look like they have stuffed it again. Went too hard on Rudd and looked like they could have taken it to the wire.....Now it looks as if Julia is in...... and watch the polls do a screaming U turn.LaughLaughLaugh
ABBOTT and the LIBS must be praying for a RUDD win today...Laugh
By:
angelo2
When: 23 Jun 10 23:39
Julia will kill Rudd this morning and then bolt in come election time. Best thing that could have happened to the labour party. I was not going to vote labour with a fake as pm but bring on the election. Julia will be a great leader and she will have a totally different leadership style. Ministers will start making decisions again for the benefit of the country instead of everything having to be approved at his leisure by the control freak.
By:
Aussie Punter
When: 24 Jun 10 00:33
Jez,
I don't agree with all you say about Rudd , as clearly he has the stones to take on heavyweights,and I still think the mining tax should go thru, albeit adjusted somewhat.But make no mistake , the people voted him in and should have the right to kick him if so desired. Abbott knifed Turnbull on principle and belief, and while I think some of  his beliefs are questionable, it is far more standing than these treacherous labour activists.
IMO- Their will be a massive backlash against Labour
By:
AFL
When: 24 Jun 10 00:50
And before all you Liberal losers get on here and say Oh well she has her fingermarks over all the decisions they have made in the last few years.....We all know that Rudd locked out his Cabinet,  and the so called gang of 4 was actually a gang of one. That is why he has gone.Laugh Roll on the election.....YEE HAHHLaugh
By:
Mrben
When: 24 Jun 10 01:32
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH COMRADES! What a fickle ans spinless bunch you are.The same losers who have been supporting 07 in this thread as being so great and he is righteous blah blah blah- in the stroke of a coup have jumped ship to mz gilliard.All for rudd last night ,all for hulia this morning.None of you socialists have any credibility now.Yes that includes you AFL,womble and your other defecting comrades.If julia does;nt poll well and wayne "the goose" swann replaces her we can assume you will jump ship  with the same lack of loyalty you ALL showed here.
  Gilliard will poll well in the first one but it wo'nt take long for her socialist ways to surface.A bit of pressure from tony will see her crumble, just as rudd crumbled.I foresee her playing the tears and crying woman card at some stage.
  Make no mistake, as I said earlier aust is headed down the path to socialism and now we have a socialist prime minister.The next election may be austs last chance to stop the sociaist disaster from happening.
  If gillard wins  the personal wealth of all aussies will be destroyed as we are pulled down to the lowest level of society, all on humanitarian grounds of course.
  The keven dudd campaign is over , he was the worst prime minister of all time and now the posters here who said as much have been proven correct.
The kevin rudd years-RIP RIP RIP
By:
secong coming.
When: 24 Jun 10 01:45
hahahahaha labor lost the plot........admission of hopelessness getting rid of dudd
By:
AFL
When: 24 Jun 10 01:50
LOL, funny about that......I thought the Liberals supported Turnbull.....and in the stroke of a coup you turn and support Abbott......LaughLaughLaugh
By:
AFL
When: 24 Jun 10 01:54
Suffer in your GUCCI jocks....Laugh
King Gee's r betterLaugh
By:
Mrben
When: 24 Jun 10 01:56
AFL - I dont remember any thread here or any poster here mentioning  a support for turnbull.Nor do I recall a fervent disciple like following of turnbull by any liberal pollies.Kevin Dudd was seen as  sitting on the right hand of the almighty, no such deluded belief was ever place in turnbull.Try to deal with facts AFL, you are the most desperate of the comrades.
Admit you and your comrades are turncoats with zero loyalty.Stop your delusions.Just as the labor party stopped its delusion with the duddster.
By:
AFL
When: 24 Jun 10 02:01
So you would have been happy for Labor to have beaten Turnbull because apparently you didn't support him....LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Mrben
When: 24 Jun 10 02:02
afl please take yur medication, your posts are becoming irrelevant.
By:
AFL
When: 24 Jun 10 02:08
Mrben Joined: 25 Oct 03
Replies: 2307 24 Jun 10 01:32 

.A bit of pressure from tony will see her crumble, just as rudd crumbled.I foresee her playing the tears and crying woman card at some stage.

Very relevant that sexist comment is.....Something you could have expected from ABBOTTLaugh
By:
the wiz
When: 24 Jun 10 06:36
MRBEN and others should not talk about loyalty,the libs have had 3 leaders in 2 years,the latest one can not even remember he has a 700.000 personal loan ..What a bunch of tossers..
By:
Story_Teller
When: 24 Jun 10 06:44
she almost made julie b cry in question time
best pot i've ever seen
By:
Aussie Punter
When: 24 Jun 10 07:07
I don't think it matters MrBen , "the sisterhood factor" may carry the day for her, and her being too far to the left may be ignored.Have a good look at women polling , womens magazines , women in the media etc.

Plenty of mileage for the Libs in this  disgrace of the treatment of a primeminister- plenty of blood on their hands

Personally am outraged, utterly disgraceful
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 24 Jun 10 09:28
I have a heart.

On a personal level, I was moved by Kevin Rudd's press conference following his defeat as Labor leader.  I may disagree with him on some of his beliefs and his governing mistakes - but I don't think anything can prepare someone for the brutal nature of the Labor Party machine.

On a neutral note, watching these sort of speeches - it is a reminder of what each and every member of parliament genuinely works towards - including Kevin Rudd as former PM - greater, more positive and prosperous outcomes for ALL Australians.

Bare in mind this executioner-like Labor Party machine and this ruckus today will remain in the minds of Australian's as we head towards an election.



These rumblings,
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 24 Jun 10 09:48
Labor winning the next election is no guarantee.

She is a left wing union fanatic.

Same horse, different jockey.

Bare in mind also.  Whilst there is support for the "sisterhood" there is also sentiment heavily against a female PM.  Which I find appalling, but it's politically a fact.

Both leaders lean quite heavily to their particular persuasion - this cancels out a lot of the extreme scare mongering, planned by Labor - after all we now have a extreme left wing union fanatic running the country.

The bottome line though, is, as part of this Government, Julia Gillard has adopted a faction-influenced, poll-driven approach to running our country - envy taxes, policy flip-flops, and broken promises %u2013 the product of a Government pre-occupied by day to day political fixes.

With Labor, you never know what%u2019s next.

Today, Australians got a new Prime Minister. What broken promises, what political distraction and what failed policies are around the corner we can%u2019t say.....

But we do know it will depend on the next Newspoll.

By contrast, with the Liberals what you see is what you get.

Real Action & Real Leadership.
By:
wombleoz
When: 24 Jun 10 09:51
If you look back through the thread I've mentioned Julia quite a few times although I admit I thought they would wait until after the election to dump Kevin.  I feel sorry for him but in the long run this is the best thing for Australia - Julia is real, Julia will tear Abbott a new one and Julia will be a great Prime Minister [:D]

Now the Liberals might mention loyalty - were they loyal to Brendon Nelson? (remember him???), Turnbull??  Will they stick by Abbott???
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 24 Jun 10 09:54
Brendan Nelson & Malcolm Turnbull weren't Prime Ministers, first termers and the Liberal Party was not running the country at that time.

Bit of a difference there Wombleoz.

But nice try.
By:
Jez Melb Punter
When: 24 Jun 10 09:56
SNIP

You think Julia is real.
You think Julia will tear him.
And again you think she'll be a good PM.

On all counts, I disagree.  Strongly.

I won't bother asking you to justify, I'd heard your attempts in the past & they're laughable.

Anyone can quote left faction Labor party propaganda.Silly
By:
Aussie Punter
When: 24 Jun 10 10:08
I agree with Jez, big difference. Absolute fkn disgrace this.Early polling hasn't moved a bit.
Extremely poor imo.
All she had to do was to tell the factions to f... off and that would of been the end of it
By:
wombleoz
When: 24 Jun 10 10:10
She is on ACA now - just listen to her, she is real - she can communicate, she will unite people and she is a ranga Laugh
By:
Hal
When: 24 Jun 10 10:12
The Vatican V The Unions.  The agony of choice.Laugh
By:
Joel
When: 24 Jun 10 10:13
She has the potential to become the greatest Prime Minister this country has ever had.
By:
Kye
When: 24 Jun 10 10:18
Should be a close election as it was going to be with Rudd.

What Labour have lost through this fiasco & her being a left wing union fanatic, they have made up by how well she performs in public & in Parliament & by the fact she can now backpeddle on some of the policy.

Anyway it was great day in Aust'n history to remove such an arrogant, useless PM. No matter how tasteless it was done.
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