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This government has been a disaster. Do NOT FORGET - Australian are WORSE OFF than what they were 3 years ago despite Kruddy's lies, spin & banter.
I think they're a good bet, the Coalition, I had some money on them at $4 earlier......when this Kevin07 experiment unravelled, it was always going to be spectacular.... Australian's are ready to embrace real action.... and they know who to turn to...... Tony Abbott and the Coalition Real leadership, real accountability & real action.  |
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Politically, I'm not sure where Labor should turn.
But this is their own making. The electorate have woken up to Kevin. Whether Gilliard is the silver bullet - is it worth the gamble to find out? Not too sure. Rudd Labor are on borrowed time. |
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I'm not sure if you've been living under a rock Canberra bookie but there was, and some would argue is, this little thing called the global financial crisis - it's kind of had a little impact on what the government could and couldn't do
Labor has been far from perfect but if you really think Australian's will dump them after one term and slide across to a right wing nutter like Abbott - you're dreaming |
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wombleoz Joined: 15 Feb 03
Replies: 825 20 Jun 10 02:08 you guys lol - labor went right to win the election womble you are sooooo correct.kevin 07 represented himself to be right of centre, he mixed that wih a few leftie type social attitudes.The country bought into it.Howard went overboard with the work choices which had some uncaring elements to it.07 said he was a e"economic conservative " We the voters thought"oh good heres some responsible economic managment without the harshness" Thats how kevin 07 won. BUT once dudd was in he reverted to his socialst nature and the extreme left of his party.He is an economic terrorist, AND he has failed in social policys thru backflips and cancellations as well as poor execution.So he failed at the economy, failed at the social policys and failed at execution.On top of that he failed to implement so much of what his social agenda that he promised. Do you really think the voters will fall for such bulshtt again!!! We were connned once, dudd will not con us again. Womble- repent your communist ways and convert to the the true faith, the only one that works-freedom of thought, freedom of economy. |
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Been through this before Wombleoz
 The message "We saved you" is not resonating (except maybe by you & Labor supporters) - we got through courtesy of the big bounty left by the former government - and that fact they left this country in the best shape of all western nations - thats a little something you conveniently forget to mention. And does it justify the billions wasted of the BER scheme? I don't think so pal - and either do most Australians - and its only now we're starting to hear more about the chronic waste of this government. And don't worry - we've seen PLENTY of what this government can do (insulation) - and its conviction (the greatest moral challenge of our time - why didn't he use a DD?) - and I think we have seen enough. It heavily promised new leadership & fresh ideas with much fanfare & hyperbole from Rudd - and has NOT delivered on both counts. You remind me Wombleoz. Paul Keating once said in 1996 "There's no way in the world people will make that little **** Prime Minister" referring to John Howard. Your view of Tony Abbott (as an apparent nutter) must surely work hand in hand with Julia Gilliard being a faithful devout left-wing extremist - surely she can't win. Oh but thats right, it works for left, but not for the right? FFS. Pull the other one. I think you listen to much to Labor Party propaganda Wombleoz. The highly optimistic spin regarding the election & the mud slinging from headkickers like Albanese on the Labor frontbench. To regard Tony Abbott as unelectable is nonsense. It is just as silly as the simplistic view that Rudd will survive the coming election just because Australians always give governments a second term. |
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But hey, if it helps you sleep at night.
Yes Kevvy saved you & yes he'll win the election. |
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National Advisory Council on Mental Health chairman John Mendoza tendered his resignation on Friday as senior adviser to Kevin Rudd saying:
%u201CIt is now abundantly clear that there is no vision or commitment from the Rudd government to mental health,%u201D he wrote. %u201CThe Rudd government is publicly claiming credit for the increased investment in mental health when almost all of this is a consequence of the work of the Howard government.%u201D This is a recurring theme was this Rudd Government fraud. |
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Try that again....
National Advisory Council on Mental Health chairman John Mendoza tendered his resignation on Friday as senior adviser to Kevin Rudd saying: " It is now abundantly clear that there is no vision or commitment from the Rudd government to Mental health, he wrote. The Rudd Government is publicly claiming credit for the increased investment in mental health when almost all of this is a consequence of the work of the Howard government" This is a recurring theme from this government. |
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It seems a few us from Canberra have a very low opinion of K Rudd (Jez, CB & myself). I wonder whether that is coincidence or we have seen some first hand examaples of their incompetence.
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holy shitttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what a revelation canberra bookie!Even the public servants can't stand the rudd lies anymore and are willing to resign over it. abundantly clear there is no vision or commitment from the rudd goverment- doesnt that just sum them up 100%?? "all the investment is due to the howard goverment" - did you read that one comrades??????????????????????????  |
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Mrben
"BUT once dudd was in he reverted to his socialst nature and the extreme left of his party." You can't be serious - what have the done that is "extreme left"??? The real reason that BER, Insulation etc haven't run as smoothly as they could isn't because they are socialist policies it's because of the greed is good mentality of the contractors who saw an opportunity to screw the system and embraced it to the max!!! No one in the mainstream parties can be considered extreme left - in fact it'd be a struggle to find someone left of centre at all - which is probably where we should be, in the centre rather than the centre right where we are now Come on comrades, move left to a fairer country [:D] |
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As one former Labor minister said last week
This Kevin Rudd gamble may have got them power, but now the incredible spin & hyperbole is plummeting back to earth, it will leave Labor back where it started..in the wilderness. |
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Penrith result highlights Labor's struggle
Experts say the record swing away from Labor in yesterday's Penrith by-election is a cause for concern for the New South Wales and federal governments. Liberals candidate Stuart Ayres received a 25.5 per cent swing away from Labor - beating the record set in the 2008 Ryde by-election. Labor's primary vote in Penrith was also halved since the 2007 election. The ABC's election analyst, Antony Green, believes Prime Minister Kevin Rudd will be closely analysing yesterday's result. "It probably means that federally there is no way the Labor Party is going to hang off until the new year for an election," he said. "Kevin Rudd wouldn't want to face the polls anywhere near when NSW goes to the electio 25.5% AWAY FROM LABOR  25% in federal will see labor in the wilderness for more than 20 years into the future.Heres hoping its even longer. bye bye bye bye kevin 07, never to be heard of again. |
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Spot on Mrben.
History shows most first term governments have suffered swings against them at election time. This is spooking Labor strategists - and this result in Penrith despite it being a state level by-election means there is raw anger towards the Labor brand. In addition, Labor troops on the ground campaigning in Penrith noted a fair chunk of anti-Rudd sentiment. A case of once bitten, twice shy. Unfortunately for Rudd Labor, they don't have the buffer of seats that previous governments have cushioned themselves with in their first term. Both Labor & the Coalition acknowledge, if roughly 14 seats are lost by the government - the Coalition will be elected. Based on the strong anti-Rudd movements building in Qld & WA - these states alone, could almost deliver government to the Coalition.... Add on the two marginals in Tasmania, Bass & Franklin (thankfully with strong local Liberal candidates standing at this election) and small tide of anti-Labor sentiment that will inevitably flow in NSW (including the return of Bennelong to the Libs), and it certainly makes it a testing time for Labor - its no wonder Labor backbenchers are starting to jump up & down. I am becoming increasingly confident that the Coalition can win government in this election, the more I look at the numbers across the pendulum. Check out the ABC elections website and have a play around with the election calculator - particuarily for the comrades amongst us, its an eye opener. 2.5% swing away from the government, and the nightmare ends. |
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Its actually a 2.4% swing required, anything less and its a hung parliament - naturally it will depend where the marginals fall.
Here are the crucial seats for the Coalition to gain in my mind: Bass (Tas) Longman (Qld) Eden-Monaro (NSW) (Will be tough to win, but I doubt is still a bellwether seat, I think Bennelong & Bass are true bellwether seats) Flynn (Qld) Bennelong (NSW) (John Alexander a strong candidate against Maxine McKew, who is MIA) Dickson (Qld) Hasluck (WA) Brand (WA) (3% margin, but very much winnable courtesy of Rudd's big tax on mining) Swans (WA) Macarthur (NSW) Corangamite (Vic) (Always hard to gain seats in Victoria for the Libs) Gilmore (NSW) Dawson (Qld) Forde (Qld) Lindsay (NSW) (Despite last elections debacle, I could see this battler electorate turn its backs on Rudd) Robertson (NSW) Remember Belinda Neal? Thats just 16 that are very very winnable seats at the moment, and thats just the start. |
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So the Coalition require roughly 50.4% two party preferred.
Currently nationally polling at about 52-53%. Naturally I'd expect a small margin to fall back to the incumbents on voting day, but still 50.4% is not by any stretch of the imagination, mission impossible.  |
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Wasn't the Howard years full of people voting Labour Gov'ts in and keeping Libs in at the Federal level ?
Again , to all comrades out there( miners lovers incl)[;)] It is best to have the Federal Government with the opposite majority at State level or vice versa. So , we will be left with Labour is my tip as the state gov'ts primarily fall to the Libs over the next year or so.[;)] |
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Wasn't the Howard years full of people voting Labour Gov'ts in and keeping Libs in at the Federal level ?
Should read Labour state Govt's |
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Womble-Julia Gillard was a former president of the Aust union of Students and the secretary of the Socialist Forum.It's a possibility she is a bit left wing?
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We don't talk about that though DA - even though she is apart of the CURRENT government & the fact that she is an extreme left wing union hack.
Wombleoz prefers to concentrate on that "right wing nutter" Tony Abbott....  We need balance. Strong economic management, accountability, strong immigration policies & continue to build on our health & education systems. We haven't seen that from Rudd Labor - and with Gilliard in the shadows - you can imagine what she'll get up to, with herself & union mates running our economy - she is a left wing extremist who cannot play the balancing act. With Tony Abbott as Health Minister, the Howard Government was the best friend of Medicare - in providing greater assistance for all Australians. Socialism, or further down the road, Communism is the road to slavery, poverty and terror. Socialism will always fail, because in the end you run out of peoples money to appropriate. [>o] |
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Of course the left....Labor & comrades....
Excuse the debt, the waste, the zero accountability, the backflips, the spin, the non-existance of border protection & botched policy under the guise of.... having a "social conscience"..... Gotta love socialism.....its total bull#### |
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A vote for Tony Abbott in this election is a vote for a stronger, prosperous & prouder Australia.
With REAL action not just hyperbole & spin. And you CAN trust Tony Abbott on all the services Australian's rely on.....the Howard Government record stands strong. If we follow Wombleoz & the comrades, this country will go backwards 50 years. If Australian's are already worse off after two and half years with the public purse in a mess & botched projects half finished & overbudget across the nation.... Where will be if we re-elect this garbage? |
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Who would've thought that Tony Abbott had a secret hobby.Internet punter and betfair forum user!
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LOL DA, I'd be shocked to find him here but his fans are out in force.
Yes Julia has some left wing stuff in her history but she's moved towards the centre as she got older. Just look at the IR laws, if she was as left as you all say the unions would've got more of what they wanted. Good to see the government do a deal with Telstra re the NBN, that should speed up some badly needed infrastructure development that Howard and his lot ignored totally while in power. August election is my tip - lock in another win for Rudd [:D] |
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Left wing and right wing are redundant terms these days.Internationalism is the main thing.Labor loves it Liberal goes along with it.Eventually it's the same result.
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Rudd the biggest DUD
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There isn't a lot of alternative to globalism DA, it's here to stay
Newspoll 52/48 to Labor - anybody that got $4 the liberals should lock in that profit because that's the only way you will make any money in that market |
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This Prime Minister has lost a net 60 points in approval since Australian's woke up to this fraudster - in a very short period of time.
The greatest fall in a leaders approval, EVER. I note a 4 point jump in your beloved Preferred PM stakes, making the gap a 9 point margin between the PM & Mr Abbott. Your not very politically savvy are you Wombleoz? You even starting to act & sound like your hero Kevin! You fail accept the FACT that this government is slowly bleeding - you & Kevin are together on this - very, very naive. Strategists & backbenchers for Labor alike are concerned with your beloved, Kevin's refusal to take advice. All good, keep going Kev, as far as I'm concerned. This PM will pay for his spectacular hyperbole in 2007. I'd love to show you some polling coming out from 10 marginal seats across the nation - the words broadly are: he's all talk, boat people & broken promises. This government is slowly bleeding and has been for some time on botched programs, mounting debt, chronic waste, astounding mismanagement, rushed big taxes on mining and truly breathtaking backflips. Australian's have tuned out to Kevin Rudd, thats becoming increasingly apparent. The Coalition have a very real chance at snatching this election - get used to it. If holding onto your safety blanket, in the Green's preference flow (which is based on the 2007 election, its not current) for winning this election - goodluck to you - the public are not stupid, the Coalition will certainly emphasis any blatant moves by the Greens to preference - "a vote for the Green's is a vote for Kevin". Once again. To suggest that "Tony Abbott is unelectable" is ludicrous - but let me tell you, amongst Labor circles its becoming a prayer - "Please, may Tony Abbott be unelectable". |
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i can't wait til abbott wins
1 - a womans place is in the home, cooking & cleaning 2 - we return to the values & lifestyles of 1940s 3 - we all know tony & s feilding are an item, yay 4 - no more public spending, the underpriviliged just take our hard earned tax dollars, i say no to welfare, spending on schools, roads & hospitals, we should all have to pay to get care. **** the poor, i'm rich, stuff em come on libs, we can do it put the dregs in their place |
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Your living up to your forum name, Story_teller.
LMAO |
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A scare campaign on Abbott.....right
A scare campaign on Gillard....left Turn it up! That ain't a winner for you comrades! Stick to your Workchoices scare campaign guys! |
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It's funny isn't it.
Anything to avoid this current government's record over the past two and half years......... And no Wombleoz, Emperor Kevin did not save us from the GFC. Solid economic management & regulation from the Howard Government saved us. Deep down in your socialist heart, I know you realise that. Spending is easy, BUT, Kev threw the baby out with the bathwater - no economic conservative is Kev. More accuarently - an economic vandal, an economic terrorist - imagine if extremist Gillard got her way with out public purse...... Rudd Labor cannot be trusted with the economy - Australian's will pay for this irresponsible government. You know Labor prey on the "battlers", yet these are the people they disadvantage the most. Those on low incomes were better off under the previous Liberal government under John Howard than the previous three Labor federal administrations. Spin as you will - the facts are unavoidable. |
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There are no question voters have deserted Labor but they haven't gone to Abbott - the don't like either choice - Greens are polling 15%, others (whoever they are)10%. I feel pretty confident that if those figures were repeated at the election Labor would win pretty easily.
Abbott's secret in improving his rating as preferred PM, say nothing for 3 weeks, he can't do that when the campaign starts and that's when people will realise exactly how crap he is. 5.2% unemployment Canberra Bookie, what would it be if there had been no stimulus??? |
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15% Greens vote won't hold for the election.
No way known - even Bob Brown knows that - Tony Abbott's task will be to bring voters towards the Coalition when policies are released during the campaign proper. LMAO. You miss the point Wombleoz. I have no problem with stimulus either did the Coalition, but to throw the baby out with the bath water and go BESERK and chronicly waste our money - without any sort of accountability - and STILL no answers on why it isn't being rolled back. Plus the other disasters that have been the hallmark of this pathetic excuse for a government. It beggars belief. |
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ALP living on false hopes - Dennis Shanahan
IF the Rudd government builds its election strategy on the basis that Tony Abbott is unelectable and Greens preferences will save Labor, it is mistaken. The findings from today's Newspoll survey of Labor-held marginal seats in regional Queensland and the western suburbs of Sydney demonstrate that both political hopes are forlorn. It also demonstrates that Julia Gillard is the preferred Labor leader in western Sydney, where the party is facing massive swings of up to 12 per cent against it. While some Labor supporters took heart from a small shift in the national two-party-preferred support for the ALP in the Newspoll last weekend, based on preference flows at the 2007 election and a Greens primary vote of 15 per cent, others remain convinced Labor is facing defeat and Kevin Rudd's prime ministership is terminal. The Newspoll survey of the marginals will confirm those darkest fears as the Labor caucus meets this morning for possibly the last time before the election. Unlike the national Newspoll survey, which spreads the Greens' support, the marginal polling shows that in traditional Labor seats, where the Greens' vote is smaller, Labor's lost votes are going directly to the Coalition. Howard's battlers are turning their backs on Rudd and not flirting with the Greens. Rudd's fall in satisfaction as Prime Minister is translating into support for a still unpopular Tony Abbott. In Lindsay - which represents the kind of seat Labor must hold to retain government - the Coalition leads Labor 56 to 44 per cent on a two-party basis, and Abbott is in front of Rudd as preferred prime minister 44 to 40 per cent. In the Queensland marginals, the Coalition leads 54 to 46 per cent, and Rudd leads Abbott by six points. In Page, where the Greens' primary vote has almost doubled to 14 per cent since the election, Labor has held its two-party-preferred position at the 2007 election but is down three points on its 2007 primary vote, and 55 per cent of the people polled are dissatisfied with Rudd. With the Greens threatening not to support Labor with preferences, and with the ALP's primary support expected to drop back from the record high of 15-16 per cent, Labor's reliance on Greens preferences is misguided. The fact that voters appear to be switching directly to the Coalition from the ALP without parking their votes with the Greens or others in marginal seats, as well as boosting Abbott, suggests Labor's optimistic view of the national polls is equally misguided. On these figures, not even taking into consideration the potential for a Labor wipeout in Western Australia and the expected losses in Tasmania, Rudd would still lose the election. |
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As I was saying last night, this is just a small sample of the marginal polling come out - its sobering for Labor.
Its like this piece written by Dennis was specifically aimed towards you Wombleoz. Enjoy! |
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"Yesterday, Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young indicated it would be a mistake for the government to assume Greens preferences would flow to Labor with the same generosity as at the last election, when 80 per cent of Greens preferences went to Labor."
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" SUPPORT for Labor has crashed so far in marginal seats in Queensland and western Sydney that the government would lose an election now. "
......oh what a beautiful morning...!!  |
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Clutching at straws Canberra Bookie - she also said people should preference who they want. Do you really think Green voters will preference someone that thinks "climate change is crap" and wants to reintroduce TPV's - a move that not even all those in his right wing party don't support.
If yesterdays poll figures are repeated on election day Labor will win Have the Liberals even got candidates in the western Sydney seats??? |
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new name now in the press and i like it
kevin o'lemon [:D] |