X Factor 2010
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I think Cowell is still a huge factor in favour of OD. Him bigging them up may not be quite the force it once was, however him putting down other acts is still undeniably the kiss of death for those acts.
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I think the four girls are better because all four can sing. Only four fifths of the lads can.
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Coupla things. In terms of the lads not being the best of friends, firstly it's early days but secondly, they don't actually have to love each other like brothers, they have to tolerate each other the same as anyone in showbusiness has to tolerate co-stars/bandmates. Insane jealousy and internal hatred never did Girls Aloud any harm!Also on the vote figures - having them this early would as some have said almost certainly be a Bad Thing. If Mary didn't win Week 1 and if Matt wasn't top last weekend then I'm giving up. But look at the recent acts that led early on (Eggnog) and those who came from nowhere (Alex Burke) and it's about picking the act that will come out of the pack - and that's OD for me.
That said, the price crash is odd and they're dubious value this evening. |
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To the five lads, the only way is up. Lou [;)]
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most amazing plunge since greg louganis
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deejayric Joined: 26 Feb 02
Replies: 998 18 Oct 10 18:12 stu Joined: 12 Jan 02 Replies: 1367 18 Oct 10 12:18 There is already a mass of personality and chemistry in this band, very reminiscent of a young TakeThat. Way off imo. The 'personality' and 'chemistry' the 5 of them are desperately trying to portray is so utterly forced, contrived and manufactured it's embarrassing. I don't think it's anymore forced or contrived than any other successful boyband. Lots of bands are manufactured, and the only thing that really matters is whether their fanbase are happy with what they see. |
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I'm not sure why people are thinking that Cowell ramping them is a good thing
 Every time he gives them a standing ovation and tells the crowd how good they are , i will lay more |
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Its not so much the ramping A1 its the de-ramping of the opposition I suspect, cue some bad songs at key points in competition etc....
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onthehushhush 18 Oct 10 21:15
they don't actually have to love each other like brothers, they have to tolerate each other the same as anyone in showbusiness has to tolerate co-stars/bandmates. Totally agree, but they continually try to force the appearance of being best mates / brothers / soul mates with this deep loving bond between them. It's so transparent, and as much part of a rehearsed routine as the singing and dancing. |
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stu Joined: 12 Jan 02
Replies: 1372 19 Oct 10 16:00 Its not so much the ramping A1 its the de-ramping of the opposition I suspect, cue some bad songs at key points in competition etc.... i can't agrre with that statement.i think cowell is the tamest he has ever been this series.the only people he has criticised so far were the no hopers, every week he has complimented the major runners.any blatant attempt to criticise acts later in the competition will only backfire on him. |
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Stu, i dont think the judges comments have that much bearing with the public.
Its all down to song choices imo I think the likes of John and Matt have enough about them that they wont be easily manipulated into accepting something they're not happy with. Diva and storm both comng out this week and blaming their mentors  for their early exits, will ensure Matt wont be singing Buttercup any time soon  |
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It hasn't really got to the stage where he needs to start working on killing off the best opposition - but there are so many things that can go 'accidentally' wrong for an act - song choice, running orders, arrangements, backing singers, backing tracks, staging, dancing.....not to hard to spanner IMO. [;)]
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I don't actually think they need all that much help though, just that any help might make sure!
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One Direction has two of the strongest male singers in the competition in Liam and Harry - but also unfortunately one of the worst in Zain. His timing is simply atrocious, even worst than the one from Diva Fever who had the 'something about Mary' hair! How Zain made the cut (other than adding to the 'look') I don't know.
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What's this about Liam being a great singer. His Oasis audition at bootcamp was unbelievably bad.
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Bad rendition of Oasis, yes, which was a misguided song choice - but he's got a great voice. He's only young, still developing and he'll go from strength to strength in this comp with the right material and vocal training.
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Give up Dizzy you clueless mong
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Save it Polkoi unless you've got something useful to contribute...
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If Cowell is looking for an act who can make him a bit of money in this country, he may well back 1 Direction to the end (although I don't think they're good enough for widespread international appeal IMO, so winning isn't as important).
If, however, is looking for a good advertisement for the American X-factor he'll ultimately want a naturally good performer that could go on an American talk show with him who'll appeal to the American audience and can be relied upon to give a good performance and put the x-factor format in a good light. I'm not saying he's looking for someone who will break America - he won't get that - he just needs one that can get respect. One Direction are a bit iffy in this instance. IMO, he'll want the best of both worlds. Good, solid solo act to win and advertise x-factor and sign one direction anyway, who can have success in the UK. |
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OD simply are not good enough to win. They may get deep in the comp, but will be found out. In fact I'd go as far as to say they are complete gash. Unless they improve 25-30lbs, I'll be laying more & more.
This plunge has made Mary a remarkably backable price on here once again. TrayC heading towards 30, arguably the best vocalist, yes please. |
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some really interesting stuff on this thread, i largely agree with dizzy about there being two v good singers in the boyband - (zain is there for the asian vote, it is that cynical, but he is appalling) and as the comp goes on, the band will sing ballads, liam and harry will get the vocals and they will come across as far more credible than they do now.
polkoi - are you one of these drongos who sees fit to criticise other comments but say nothing even remotely relevant himself? but ghatroon's and albuera's points aint bad either - one direction will really need to improve (25 to 30 pounds made me laugh ), as i said above, i think they can, given the right formula and it is no surprise to me that cowell is holding back the aces. i am totally convinced they will make the last two - if they are up against a matt or rebecca with a voice like a superstar then even cowell may not be able to get them over the line.i totally understand the plunge myself - i wouldnt make them any bigger than 3.1 ish as i think they are 100 per cent to make the final three |
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polkoi
you made me laughyep , i reckon one direction will be in the final show , but to win it >?? not so sure |
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one directions bootcamp version of natalie imbruglia's 'torn' was AMAZING (anyone else see that >??)... that song made me realise the potential of these lads ...AND they got the 'cute' vote factor as well ... hope they win it ...
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Which one is your favourite richieboy? Is it Harry?
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Got to be Zain.
They really have got it all. |
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I'm just delighted that we're two weeks in now and there's been no rumour or innuendo coming out of the house that the boys are all porking the bejesus out of each other. Cowell's not gone and found himself a bunch of straights, has he?
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Nick.....I still think we are on the right horse
Matt- OK but more suited to fronting a band rather than solo act Rebecca- very Stacey Soloman...ok voice but no stage presence Aidan-Not sure how many voters an angst ridden teenager with an OK voice gets Mary-Very likable but very limited...will be found out in certain song catogeries. As stated earlier,I think OD are pretty poor aswell  but someone is certainly advising them on the black art of vote collecting (The all great pals act at the end of performances is blatent but effective),and the less than subtle production tricks ie the screaming young girls in the front row will all add up.Keep the faith [smiley:crazy] |
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At 6s well worth a poke. No one stops Cardle though.
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cardle definitely the only threat, but pretty sure one direction will be in the last two and then i'll do some hefty laying off
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When was there so much money for ONE DIRECTION....11/4??
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Seriously they are becoming very boring like Matt Cardle.Not original.Does this country need
a man who sings like a girl or a band who sing like a tribute Boy Band.If they do then lord help us all.This country needs a new and original act.These 2 are not that act. |
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Since when was X Factor ever about originality?!
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If they want something original it's a band winning the show - simples.
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agreed - a contrived talentless boyband winning the show would be original. This has never been done before.
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has there ever been an uncontrived boyband? and yes, one winning the show would make a change.
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East 17?
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has there ever been an uncontrived boyband?
The Jackson 5 perhaps (though I'm not sure they were called boybands back then)...I certainly can't think of one that Cowell has been involved with...but I do agree that a boyband winning would make a change |
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Take That and The Monkees were both contrived bands and both were huge successes.
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FYD weren't too contrived and the voters gave them the finger.
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